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The (new) Official PC building thread!
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22. October 2007 @ 11:52 |
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AMD have indeed been good (and typically better) in the past, but overclockers move with the times. Pick up a cheap core 2 duo, an E6750 ideally, if you can't afford that then something like an E4300. It didn't take great skill to overclock that to 3Ghz from its original 1.8.
besides, what is this doing in the PC building thread?
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22. October 2007 @ 14:57 |
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Yeah I agree with Sam, go with the C2Ds for now. AMD's heyday is over by now, it's back to Intel. Also go with a GA-P35-DS3(what ever letter you want to buy goes here), to pair with that E6750 and you will be good to go for a long time.
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22. October 2007 @ 17:44 |
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Lol there are differences between the DS3, DS3L and DS3R you know!
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22. October 2007 @ 18:11 |
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Not as far as overclocking goes. They are the same motherboard, it's just that the more expensive ones have more features. Performance wise the should be the same, except for maybe the better heatsink on the more expensive model which probably helps you overclock a little further.
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22. October 2007 @ 18:13 |
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Better power regulation on the DS3R I heard, that's important...
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22. October 2007 @ 20:42 |
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rdp55,
The AMD black edition x2 5000 is the cpu to get if your going to stay with AMD.These are the best of the best 65nm brisbane chips complete with an unlocked multiplier.Overclocked, it will beat Intel's Core 2 Duo E6550 at stock speeds but overclock the Core 2 Duo E6550 and its a different story.Personally I would wait if your building a complete new system until the new AMD Phenom processors are released(hopefully next month).
Regards,Crowy.
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22. October 2007 @ 21:33 |
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what is the difference between an Intel Pentium Duo core chip and an Intel Centrino Duo Core chip
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22. October 2007 @ 21:55 |
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Kinda nitpicking but it's dual core, not duo core. Anyway the Centrino is made for laptops, is clocked lower and consumes less power.
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22. October 2007 @ 22:47 |
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abuzar1..OK Thanks
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22. October 2007 @ 23:24 |
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No problem.
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rdp55
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23. October 2007 @ 13:21 |
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OK more mud in the water for the CPU's.......now what about the video card(Sapphire ATI Radeon HD2600 Pro Advantage 512MB) will this be enough to play team fortress 2?
how much memory? I was thinking 2gb.. 2 x 1gb sticks
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mphsbelle
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24. October 2007 @ 14:52 |
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Ok. I turned on the new computer build, suspense builds to a cresendo, and I don't seem to be getting anything. The computer has power, the fans are running, the optical drives have power and the lights are all blinking. I cannot seem to get the drives to read. I know that I need to get to BIOS to set up a few things but I don't seem to be able to do that. One book I read said to tap delete over and over to enter system bios. Is it correct? Makes me wonder why I bought the book when ya'll are more helpful. I await your response.
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24. October 2007 @ 15:37 |
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Originally posted by mphsbelle:
Ok. I turned on the new computer build, suspense builds to a cresendo, and I don't seem to be getting anything. The computer has power, the fans are running, the optical drives have power and the lights are all blinking. I cannot seem to get the drives to read. I know that I need to get to BIOS to set up a few things but I don't seem to be able to do that. One book I read said to tap delete over and over to enter system bios. Is it correct? Makes me wonder why I bought the book when ya'll are more helpful. I await your response.
mphsbelle,
Are you at least posting?? (screen giving you something) That's very important at this point. :) You installed RAM right? (sorry had to ask... ;))
On getting to the BIOS you may have to try other keys; some (most) require the delete key but others use F8 or F9 if memory serves. YOu may have to look it up for your mobo. :D
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24. October 2007 @ 15:58 |
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Nonetheless if there's no video, you won't have an option to use the BIOS.
Is there a 4 pin Power connector on your motherboard, and is it plugged in? Are all your cards and RAM sticks seated correctly? Is the CPU heatsink securely attached?
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mphsbelle
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24. October 2007 @ 16:17 |
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I am getting a screen that has green bar on top, red space in the middle and a blue bar that says monitor is working. Green bar says self test, red bar says no signal. I have tried several keys to enter bios - nothing. I am thinking I have missed a connection from the hard drive. I connected a red cable from the hdd to the mother board, and a ribbon cable to the mother board and a power cable to the hdd. The jumper is set to master. There is one other place on the back of the hdd for some type of cord but no info on what goes there. I'll look on the documentation for info. Thanx for your quick reply.
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redice
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24. October 2007 @ 16:40 |
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just wondering are using a sata harddrive?
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24. October 2007 @ 16:41 |
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Originally posted by mphsbelle:
I am getting a screen that has green bar on top, red space in the middle and a blue bar that says monitor is working. Green bar says self test, red bar says no signal. I have tried several keys to enter bios - nothing. I am thinking I have missed a connection from the hard drive. I connected a red cable from the hdd to the mother board, and a ribbon cable to the mother board and a power cable to the hdd. The jumper is set to master. There is one other place on the back of the hdd for some type of cord but no info on what goes there. I'll look on the documentation for info. Thanx for your quick reply.
Is the monitor hooked up to the DMI/dSUB connection from the video card?? Is the video card properly seated? I'm assuming at this point that the questions that sam asked have been addressed. ;)
You connected a red cable to the mobo, ribbon cable, and power cable. I'm not sure you should have 3 cables at this point from your HDD to other components. WHAT kind of HDD is it? SATA or PATA?? If SATA you should have a 'small thin' cable that goes from the HDD to the mobo and basically clips in. Your power connections will look similarly but about twice as wide. IF you have PATA HDD then you will have a 4-pin molex to power the HDD and the 40/80 pin ribbon/cable to interface with the mobo. hth..... ;)
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mphsbelle
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24. October 2007 @ 17:10 |
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I just took out and re-installed the hard drive. It has a red thin ribbon like cord that goes to the motherboard and a power cord from the psu. The monitor is plugged into the back of the motherboard. I reinstalled the graphics card as it had to come out to get the hard drive out. No jumpers on the hdd. It is a SATA. My motherboard docs said to use the F2 key. However, my keyboard will not plug into the keyboard slot on the motherboard. Keyboard is a USB port plug in.
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24. October 2007 @ 17:14 |
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Originally posted by mphsbelle:
I just took out and re-installed the hard drive. It has a red thin ribbon like cord that goes to the motherboard and a power cord from the psu. The monitor is plugged into the back of the motherboard. I reinstalled the graphics card as it had to come out to get the hard drive out. No jumpers on the hdd. It is a SATA. My motherboard docs said to use the F2 key. However, my keyboard will not plug into the keyboard slot on the motherboard. Keyboard is a USB port plug in.
First thing "belle" is don't get frustrated. :) You can use one of the USB ports on the back of your tower to plug in your KB. :D
On the SATA HDD just hook up the "small" cable (might be red) to the proper SATA "plugs" in the mobo and HDD. Connect the power 'cable' from the PSU to the HDD and you should have power. :)
Everything seems to be going fine just keep your chin up and you'll get thru this, I PROMISE. :D
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mphsbelle
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24. October 2007 @ 17:28 |
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A little frustrated. There is a green light actually on the motherboard and it is on. I plugged the kb into a USB port but the computer does not even recognize that I am depressing the F2 key. I am still getting the green/red/blue box on the monitor. All 3 fans are working. Gonna go to Seagate and see what they have to say. Last Seagate drive was a snap. This is the only drive for this new build. Lots of bays and can install more as needed, providing I get it up and running. LOL
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mphsbelle
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24. October 2007 @ 18:57 |
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Is is possible that one of my ribbons/cords is bad? I can replace both of the cords to the hard drive easy enough.
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24. October 2007 @ 19:37 |
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24. October 2007 @ 19:43 |
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If it's a new build, it could be a number of things, and I'm not looking at the hard drive as the main culprit.
You should have:
CPU heatsink attached securely, CPU fan connector plugged into motherboard.
RAM in correct RAM slots (try changing them perhaps)
Hard drive power cable attached to power supply
Hard drive data cable attached to motherboard (usually thin and red)
Power cable attached to CD Drive
Data cable from CD drive attached to motherboard (if it's the large IDE Ribbon cable, check it's the right way round)
20 or 24 pin power connector plugged into motherboard
4 pin CPU power connector plugged into motherboard
Blue VGA or White DVI monitor cable attached to graphics card or graphics chipset, and connected to monitor.
Is all this present and correct?
Greensman: You casually put down Flight SIm X, but that's more demanding than any of the games I play. Flight sim games require powerful hardware to run well. I'd suggest something beefier than an 8600GTS if he's going to want high resolutions. Will he be using Vista and DirectX10? If not you could go with something like an X1950XT. If he is, go with an 8800 series.
Go with the P35 motherboard, the E6750 and the Corsair memory.
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24. October 2007 @ 20:05 |
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Originally posted by mphsbelle:
A little frustrated. There is a green light actually on the motherboard and it is on. I plugged the kb into a USB port but the computer does not even recognize that I am depressing the F2 key. I am still getting the green/red/blue box on the monitor. All 3 fans are working. Gonna go to Seagate and see what they have to say. Last Seagate drive was a snap. This is the only drive for this new build. Lots of bays and can install more as needed, providing I get it up and running. LOL
Sorry I've been doing some research and chasing the 2 year around the house for a while. ;)
GREEN light is good. :) Is there a "beep" code when you start the process up?? There should be a "legend" to let you know what these codes mean somewhere in the mobo documentation. :)
Trying different connectors and cables is a good idea. Do that if you can. Do you have an extra ps/2 type kb available?? YOU might try that if so. Which machine are you typing from and what does it use for your mouse and kb? ps/2 or USB? Try the new kb in the old machine if you can. That'll let you know if it's good or not. :) I would still try the ps/2 kb just because. ;)
I hope this helping in some way. ;)
...gm
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mphsbelle
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24. October 2007 @ 20:53 |
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I found an old KB down in the basement from a Win98 computer but it still hooked up with USB. Interesting that you asked, the build makes all kinds of beeping noises when I start it up. Tomorrow when I finish working I will try different cords/cables. I had purchased a 630 PSU with all the round cords for max airflow in the case. It came with tons of extra cords so I can replace all the cords. I went thru and check that I had connected all of the cords to the right places on the motherboard and that I had power supply and connections to everything. I believe that everything is as it should be. The MB did not come with alot of info other than a diagram and a sticky for the case. The heatsink was easy to install as the holes were in the right places. All the fans work; sorry if I am repeating myself. I bought an Intel MB because it would support the cpu that I bought. Had to have new Quad Core CPU. Silly girl, first build and spents lots of $ - but less than my Big Box computer, lots less. Learning but obviously have a long way to go. Thanx a million to all for the help.
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