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28. November 2007 @ 06:41 |
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Originally posted by fasfrank:
Rob, That's a hellava good deal on the Corsair 6400C4 memory... $87.00 - $40.00 rebate + free shipping... $47.00.
I always add an Audigy sound card but it's not necessary, you have the onboard sound.
Maybe add a floppy if you use them. Are the optical drives you have now SATA?
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sorry frank missed this post in with all the others
the Optical drives i have now are not sata. IDE right now
Lite-on SHW-160P6S
Lite-on LH-18A1P
both are good drives so for now im keeping them and not worrying about getting any sata's right now. gonna use the money on the main stuff for the build. but i will be getting a sata HDD.
ive been looking at the different PSU and from the looks of them there is onlt 1 or 2 sata connectors.if isay get 2 sata drives and 2 sata HDD will i be able to connect them all? can you piggy back/split the power connectors?
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28. November 2007 @ 07:17 |
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Many HDD have not only the SATA power connector, but also a place for the more familiar 4 pin molex. Some of the newer ones may not, but as little as a year ago many still did.
Also there are adapters for molex-to-SATA also that are inexpensive in case there arent enough for you.
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28. November 2007 @ 09:08 |
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I believe it's primarily older WD drives that include both the Molex and S-ATA power connectors. However, NEVER connect both at the same time, or you may destroy the hard drive.
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28. November 2007 @ 11:08 |
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So from my setup mentioned previously, the stuff on the Corsair 520W will be able to physically connect everything?
Permanently connected:
19" cable for main 20+4-pin ATX connector
19" cable for 4x12V EPS12V
19" cable for 2x12V AUX12V
Detachable:
2 x 21" cable for 6-pin PCIe connector
2 x 31" cable with three 4-pin IDE drive connectors
1 x 16" cable with two 4-pin IDE drive connectors
6" 4-pin IDE to two 12V only 4-pin IDE connectors (meant for fans)
6" 4-pin IDE to two floppy drive power connectors
2 x 25" cables with two SATA drive connectors
And those 4 sata ports will only be occupied by my sata dvd burner and sata hard drive? And the PCIe will be used for.........I don't know :P
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28. November 2007 @ 11:22 |
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Well, your graphics card if it's a powerful one. Most GPUs only require one. I think it's only the HD2900XT and 8800GTX that need two.
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28. November 2007 @ 11:29 |
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And the PCIe will be used for.........I don't know :P
Some cards that go in the PCI-E slots, especially video cards, need some extra juice.
BTW- just got my Armor case and XMS2(DHX) memory delivered. The armor, I could rent out the space in there to a small family and make some extra cash its so big and has so much room. Pictures dont do the sheer size justice. Now, to send in the rebates before I forget, and wait the next few weeks for more sales to develop to purchase the rest of the beast.
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28. November 2007 @ 15:36 |
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So guys, I just sold my PC for 800. This is what was in it:
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400
3 GB Crucial Ballistic Tracers RAM
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 rev 3.3 Motherboard
Ultra GRID case(
Ultra XVS Modular 700 Watt Power supply
7900 GTX 512MB
Lite-On DVD burner
Maxtor 320GB SATA HDD
Now I have 800 to spend on a new one!
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28. November 2007 @ 16:12 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
So guys, I just sold my PC for 800. This is what was in it:
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400
3 GB Crucial Ballistic Tracers RAM
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 rev 3.3 Motherboard
Ultra GRID case(
Ultra XVS Modular 700 Watt Power supply
7900 GTX 512MB
Lite-On DVD burner
Maxtor 320GB SATA HDD
Now I have 800 to spend on a new one!
You better come up with another $200-$300 for us to get you something to be proud of. hehehe. :P You want help picking stuff or are you just bragging about the $$$MONEY$$$ you made??
...gm
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28. November 2007 @ 16:18 |
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Well yeah I probably will. I just wanna see what's the best I can do with 800.
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28. November 2007 @ 16:39 |
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My knowledge with computer is really limited but I wanted to build my own PC for once and that's what my friend who work in computers and got his own providers recommended me (I wanted to build it around the 8800GT).
Video Card: Evga 8800GT SuperClocked 512mb pci express 2.0
Case/PSU: Anten Sonata Designer: 500w PSU ---> http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=15135
Memory: Kingston HyperX Memory -2 GB ( 2 x 1 GB ) DDR2- 1066 MHz
HDD: Barracuda ES SATA 3.0Gb/s 500-GB
DVDD: LG DL SATA
Processor: Intel Core 2 DUO E6750 2.67GHz (LGA775 4MB 1333/FSB) ---> Will get changed to a 3.0 for 80$ more
Mobo: Asus Desktop Board P5K-e /WiFi-AP
Monitor: 22'' Acer
Excluding the Video Card and Monitor, It'll cost me 900$ CAD just the PC.
Note that I am going to pay 80 more $ to change my processor to a 3.0.
I also got told by some people to change my memory to OCZ which supposely is much better etc.. I said that to my friend and he told he that's what he got and strongly recommended me HyperX (he also gathered info about it and most people said the same thing), not the standard one. He also told me Corsair is much better but honestly, I am quite lost with all those DDR things. I don't wanna pay for in the future, just for now. Adding another 50$ to get something that'll make a difference right now, is fine for me.
Is it worth it to change the current DDR2 written above for the latest DDR3 that recently came out?
Also my biggest concern right now is the PSU ( http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=15135 ).I don't really care about the case, I want it to look clean and have it quite silent. I wanna game a lot (play Crysis at max and everything else, I FINALLY wanna be able to play games at the highest settings instead of the lowest ones with my past crappy already built-in HP pavillon PC's). My PSU dilemma come from a lot of people who told me ''prock (what is that?), HDD and drive will take a lot of juice and only 500w won't be enought, get better or you will regret it''. Looking at the specs of my future PC, how can it not be enought? I mean, it's not like I will have 2-3 burners and 3 HDD's.
I also know absolutely nothing about mobos but I think that mobo got problems with 8800GT. Do you guys have any feedback on it?
What I want is a fast, silent, performing computer which will be able to play every games up to date as of right now! No more lag/slowdowns.
How does it look like?
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28. November 2007 @ 17:16 |
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Originally posted by tsukia:
My knowledge with computer is really limited but I wanted to build my own PC for once and that's what my friend who work in computers and got his own providers recommended me (I wanted to build it around the 8800GT).
Video Card: Evga 8800GT SuperClocked 512mb pci express 2.0
Case/PSU: Anten Sonata Designer: 500w PSU ---> http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=15135
Memory: Kingston HyperX Memory -2 GB ( 2 x 1 GB ) DDR2- 1066 MHz
HDD: Barracuda ES SATA 3.0Gb/s 500-GB
DVDD: LG DL SATA
Processor: Intel Core 2 DUO E6750 2.67GHz (LGA775 4MB 1333/FSB) ---> Will get changed to a 3.0 for 80$ more
Mobo: Asus Desktop Board P5K-e /WiFi-AP
Monitor: 22'' Acer
Excluding the Video Card and Monitor, It'll cost me 900$ CAD just the PC.
Note that I am going to pay 80 more $ to change my processor to a 3.0.
I also got told by some people to change my memory to OCZ which supposely is much better etc.. I said that to my friend and he told he that's what he got and strongly recommended me HyperX (he also gathered info about it and most people said the same thing), not the standard one. He also told me Corsair is much better but honestly, I am quite lost with all those DDR things. I don't wanna pay for in the future, just for now. Adding another 50$ to get something that'll make a difference right now, is fine for me.
Is it worth it to change the current DDR2 written above for the latest DDR3 that recently came out?
Also my biggest concern right now is the PSU ( http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=15135 ).I don't really care about the case, I want it to look clean and have it quite silent. I wanna game a lot (play Crysis at max and everything else, I FINALLY wanna be able to play games at the highest settings instead of the lowest ones with my past crappy already built-in HP pavillon PC's). My PSU dilemma come from a lot of people who told me ''prock (what is that?), HDD and drive will take a lot of juice and only 500w won't be enought, get better or you will regret it''. Looking at the specs of my future PC, how can it not be enought? I mean, it's not like I will have 2-3 burners and 3 HDD's.
I also know absolutely nothing about mobos but I think that mobo got problems with 8800GT. Do you guys have any feedback on it?
What I want is a fast, silent, performing computer which will be able to play every games up to date as of right now! No more lag/slowdowns.
How does it look like?
to answer the PSU Question....ITS PERFECTLY FINE!
the antec earthwatts are very good PSUs, and will run everything in that list perfectly. 500W is overkill even for you. a c2Q extreme and an 8800GT draw about 210W so you should be fine (inc on DVDrw drive and 1 HDD)
the mobo will have no problems with the GPU, but if you are not going to be OCing, its a huge waste of money.
btw what res do you want to play crysis at, casu it will not run at max settings on any current single card even at 1280 x XXXX.
the RAM, if you are not OCing, then you shoudl get some good branded (g.skill, OCZ, corsair, curcial, mushkin...) PC6400. this will run at 333, which will be perfect for your CPU, which wil have an FBS of 333 aswell. if you are OCing, get the PC8500 (1066) RAM.
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28. November 2007 @ 18:45 |
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Originally posted by greensman
You better come up with another $200-$300 for us to get you something to be proud of. hehehe. :P You want help picking stuff or are you just bragging about the $$$MONEY$$$ you made??
...gm[/quote:
dang guess my 700-800 bucks aint gonna get me crap????
gives me a complex, bout being on limited budget????
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28. November 2007 @ 21:06 |
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@cincy
You can build a Smok'in Machine for $700 to $800...that will do everything that the $2,000 machines can do...
Anything you Build yourself...you can take Great Pride In!...
Did you pick-up any of the parts during the Sales?...
@tsukia
I am not a fan of Kingston...it is not really considered one of the better manufacturers...Crucial...Corsair...G-Skill have much better reputations...get the best memory you can for your money....you can do better then Kingston...for probably Less money...
If you are just looking at jumping to the 6850...there is not a big difference between the 6750 & 6850...Do Not spend the extra $80...save the money and look to upgrade to the Penryn once it is here and affordable...it will give you a Much Biggest overall performance gain...with the benefit of lower power consumption...
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28. November 2007 @ 21:42 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
dang guess my 700-800 bucks aint gonna get me crap????
gives me a complex, bout being on limited budget????
I was messing with abuzar.... lol.
Don't get an inferiority complex this early in the game. ;) As Lp531 said you can get an AWESOME machine for $700-$800. :D Once you send me that list I'll show you. hehehe. :P Anyway be sure to come here and our other HAUNT for other ideas and for sure compatibility issues. ;)
....gm
tsukia,
I completely agree with Lp531 on the RAM. Any of those makers are great and will more than likely be cheaper and more reliable than the Kingston. The Kingston isn't complete crap but it's NOT as well liked or made as the manufacturers Lp531 mentioned. :) Of course this is from other members and research. Unfortunately I don't have the Kingston Memory. ;)
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29. November 2007 @ 03:07 |
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Has anyone tried the Unreal Tournament 3 Demo...It crashes my computer...sends it to restart...
That is the second New big titles (Crysis) who's Demo does not work...I hope the Game does better...
Frankly this makes me cautious about buying it...I have been burned to many times by crappy games...or crappy game play...or rootkit filled games (Brothers in Arms-earned in Blood...Bet on Soldiers...etc...)
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29. November 2007 @ 03:48 |
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man i haven't had time to game in months, thats why when i update I'm keeping the videcard i have
Antec 1200 Full-Tower Case/Thermaltake 750-Watt PS/ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 Mobo/Western Digital Black WD500 500GB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache/NVIDIA GeForce 8800GTX 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express Video Card/CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM 16GB DDR3 /Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo)/CORSAIR Hydro High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler/3-Asus DRW-24B1ST Sata Drives/Samsung 2493HM 24" LCD Monitior 1920x1200 resolution,5ms respone time/OS Windows 10 Pro SP1 64-bit
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29. November 2007 @ 03:52 |
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To be honest, Abuzar, I hope you like building PCs from scratch, because doing it that way round I think you may have sold yourself a bit short there.
Tsukia: Corsair memory is what I tend to use, but there are a number of good brands out there, OCZ is another of them. As for Kingston, you don't tend to see many enthusiast builds using it. Whilst it's generally well made, I don't think it performs quite as well as other brands.
As for DDR3, I wouldn't bother. The chips used are the same as for DDR2 now, and the cost is just too great for it to be worth considering, get a motherboard like the GA-P35C-DS3R that supports both.
If you want silence, you don't really want an Antec PSU, they're not quiet for gamign builds. Get a Corsair HX series power supply. They are very quiet indeed. Also note that the 8800GT is very loud compared to some graphics cards. Instead, I'd recommend using ATI'S Radeon HD3870. It performs at a similar level to the 8800GT, but is more futureproof because it offers newer technologies such as Directx10.1 and provides an all-round better image quality than the 8800GT.
Lp: I tried the UT3 Demo and it worked fine for me. The Crysis Demo also worked fine. if I'm honest, I don't think the graphics in Crysis are worth the ridiculous system requirements, but UT3 seemed to strike the balance quite well. I tend to find though, that neither game is too happy about using Anti-Aliasing, which sucks A LOT because AA I think is a fundamental requirement in games if you want them to look good. it's hardly an involving experience if the rocks and trees look like saw blades.
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29. November 2007 @ 08:21 |
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One of the main reasons I am building new is that my system wasnt up to par for editing HD video of my bands performances.
Nero 7 edits AVCHD video, but my system is too slow (Opteron 185 @2.9, 7600GT gfx) for live editing without converting it to some other file format, therefore losing quality. Watching the video through the preview window is impossible, where all normal files play superbly. The sound doesnt clip, but it looks like its missing frames and skipping video. MAybe get another 7600GT and attempt SLI with this rig, but I dont think its merely my gfx card causing this. I'm thinking Penryn when it comes out, I've built both Intel and AMD so I'm not really a fanboy, just wanting the best of the two I can get. I'm not much of a gamer although I was hooked on Doom 3 for awhile when it came out.
I guess I'm asking if I should get the best, newest, most expensive gfx card to go along with the new mobo and expensive new CPU or what I should be looking for to fix my problems.
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29. November 2007 @ 09:06 |
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Sam, what do you mean I sold my self short? I do like building PCs from scratch though.
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29. November 2007 @ 09:09 |
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I mean you didn't really make much of a 'profit' on that system, so you haven't exactly got yourself much extra to upgrade with...
Deadrum: I'd recommend getting a powerful, but reasonably priced graphics card like the Radeon HD3850 for your system. if it boosts your frames, you know where you need to upgrade (and if necessary you can further upgrade to an HD3870 or 8800GTX and sell the 3850). If it doesn't, you won't have spent so much that you can't afford a better CPU, and you now have a decent graphics card!
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29. November 2007 @ 10:04 |
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It is a good idea to get a new card now and check to see how it boosts everything overall for this rig, then later swap cards back when I finish ordering parts for the new. I have talked myself into a totally new build, not just upgrading my AMD939. I mean I missed a whole generation of CPU's so its time.
I found this card http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814130300
It looked the best when comparing similar ones in that range.
I will wait a week or 2 before ordering though, I have contractors rebuilding a garage onto one of my houses and I need the extra cash for anything unexpected.
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29. November 2007 @ 10:51 |
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The 8800GTS is a pointless buy nowadays. Save your money and get an 8800GT. It's faster and also cheaper.
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29. November 2007 @ 11:11 |
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Yeah, guess the GT's were sold out at NewEgg, I looked someplace else and seen what you mean.
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29. November 2007 @ 11:45 |
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29. November 2007 @ 11:54 |
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Personally, I prefer Corsair and OCZ to GeIL. I use that exact set of XMS2 and it has served me well so far.
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