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11. December 2007 @ 19:53 |
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well, I couldn't resist any longer. I pulled the trigger on a cooler master stacker 830 evo. I've always wanted one but couldn't justify the price tag when they were $250. I picked one up for $110 after a $60 MIR with free shipping and no tax.
no build in the works as of yet but I couldn't let that deal get away. all aluminum construction, true tooless design, motherboard tray, cable channel, excellent cooling, not to mention awesome looks. I can hardly wait even if it will just be to look at for a while. I'm gonna have a stacker 830 evo yepee
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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11. December 2007 @ 20:25 |
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You say excellent cooling, but that's only once you've added fans to the slots where you can put them, and replaced the stock ones. Cooling is around average for a high-end case until you modify it.
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11. December 2007 @ 20:46 |
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it will cool as good or better with only 2 good fans than the average case and it has provisions to add fans galore if needed (up to nine 120 mm fans). there are so many other plus's. only con is it's huge but again that's a plus if you intend on using a large video card/s (8800 series) or large cpu hsf (thermalright ultra 120 extreme, zalman 9700 cnps, sunbeam tuniq tower).
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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11. December 2007 @ 20:51 |
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Two good fans. Coolermaster fans are not good fans unfortunately. They push hardly any air and aren't exactly silent either. The huge size I see as a plus because you have so much more room to work.
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11. December 2007 @ 21:01 |
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@he_man
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For right now I am going with Corsair XMS2 4GB (2x2GB).
Windows XP will only utilize 3GB of memory...you need Vista 64 if you want to use all that memory...If you are going XP...I would just get (1) 2GB kit...
@Mort81
That EVO deal is just to good to pass-up...I want to get rid of the (4) fans on the side...and replace with (1) 250mm fan from an Enermax Chakra...It will take a little modding to make one work...but it can be done relatively easily...
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11. December 2007 @ 21:02 |
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Two good fans. Coolermaster fans are not good fans unfortunately. They push hardly any air and aren't exactly silent either
exactly. that's why I said 2 good fans instead of the 2 oem cm fans. although the cm fans don't move much air, I don't consider them loud.
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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11. December 2007 @ 21:27 |
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GOT BEER?
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11. December 2007 @ 21:34 |
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Depends, what do you plan on doing with it.
The quad core is definitely better performing.
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gotbeer
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11. December 2007 @ 21:39 |
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burning movies. makeing photo dvds playing music burning cds nothing really heavy i guess you could say.
ive never really heard of acer before is that a good company? think i heard once it is part of HP somehow
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11. December 2007 @ 22:18 |
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Acer has been around a long time. Acer bought Gateway last October. I'd think about adding a DVD-ROM. It makes the copy process faster.
I vote for the quad-core.
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12. December 2007 @ 00:20 |
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Originally posted by gotbeer:
this doesnt have much to do with building a computer, seeing i dont know how too. i went looking at prebuilt systems. could someone tell me if this one is a good one to look into?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?...d=1192232280889
or this one
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?...0050021
gotbeer,
Does building you own not appeal to you or are you just worried that you may not be able to do it yourself? Just wondering really. Normally you can get better components and "features" if you build yourself. Not trying to offend just thinking out loud really. ;)
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12. December 2007 @ 02:21 |
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Did ya ever notice they don't tell ya what kind of PSU is in a retail build.Had a Gateway over the Memorial Day weekend.It was a Dual core AMD 2.83,I could buy the Mobo online for 28 bucks
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gotbeer
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12. December 2007 @ 07:52 |
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Originally posted by greensman:
gotbeer,
Does building you own not appeal to you or are you just worried that you may not be able to do it yourself? Just wondering really. Normally you can get better components and "features" if you build yourself. Not trying to offend just thinking out loud really. ;)
....gm
oh it appeals greatly to me, and i know i can do much better with the money building one, BUT i have a wife and what makes her happy makes me happy...lol
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12. December 2007 @ 08:02 |
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Acer certainly used to make terrible quality products, but people tell me they've improved significantly. I sincerely hope so.
The Q6600 PC, however has a better graphics card (although it's still not fast), and obviously a better CPU, assuming you can make use of its 4 cores. However, it doesn't include a monitor etc., so don't forget to take that into account!
As for not telling you which PSU they use, thats because theyre all 300W crappy OEM ones. I've never seen an example of a prebuilt PC using a high caliber PSU, however I was semi-pleased to see that a Packard Bell I took apart last year had a Fortron PSU in it. That's something I suppose.
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12. December 2007 @ 15:52 |
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@Sam
Dell uses Seasonic...Corsair...& PC Power & Cooling in some of there high-end builds...as a matter of fact...I just bought a Corsair 450VX from Dell...$59...for a HTCP build...and just to clarify a earlier post...the 450VX is a Seasonic build...the new 650 & 750 Corsair P/S are CWT builds...
Most high-end computers...builds by your mainstream company's will use a quality P/S...simply...because they have to...now...I am only talking about there top-end offerings...the average builds usually use something that is just...so...so...
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12. December 2007 @ 15:56 |
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I think we're talking about proper high-end XPS level stuff there though. Even recent Dell XPS systems used standard Dell-brand (so PCP&C I assume) 375W units. I can fully understand with the new gaming systems they're making (SLI and all that) that they use proper units, and I'm glad they do. However, I'm pretty certain that the vast majority of prebuilt PCs still use pretty dire power supplies.
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12. December 2007 @ 16:04 |
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i thought they use good power supplies...
SEX
Now Ive got your attention please read my post above
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12. December 2007 @ 16:07 |
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What, prebuilt PCs? You must be joking...
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12. December 2007 @ 16:27 |
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@sam
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I'm pretty certain that the vast majority of prebuilt PCs still use pretty dire power supplies.
You are correct about that...and yes as I stated...
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I am only talking about there top-end offerings...the average builds usually use something that is just...so...so...
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12. December 2007 @ 16:34 |
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Yep, just thought I'd highlight the rarity of the matter though. it's not like the top 25% of all prebuilt PCs have decent units.
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12. December 2007 @ 16:53 |
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Most Prebuilt PC's market only one thing...the CPU...everything else is of Low quality...because most consumer know absolutely nothing about a computer or the components...they will tell the consumer..."Hey look...it has the same Speed Processor and the same size Ram...so it is just as Fast"...and...the unknowing consumer...Buys It...
I don't know how many times I get told by customer..."don't you need to buy a Pre-Configured PC...because they know what software needs to be installed to be compatible"...not realizing that...The Major problem with a Pre-Configured PC is...All the incompatible and cr@ppy software installed...and the Low Quality of the Major Components used to build these Pre-Configured PC's...
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12. December 2007 @ 16:56 |
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Oh and I also get told this. People tell me they buy pre-built PCs because the hardware is more "compatible", then the one I would build.
That's just so stupid.
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12. December 2007 @ 16:59 |
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LMAO I've heard that one so many times before.
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12. December 2007 @ 17:16 |
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Also, can you guys direct me to a prebuilt PC from HP, Dell that does list what motheboard is used?
I can honestly say i have never saw the motherboard used in the prebuilt PC's listed on a website.(nor instore)
Graphics are another bummer, only once have i saw an 8800GTS card used at PC World and it was over £1200. The profit margins that these companies achieve is astonishing.
You know what would be sweet?
If you guys put together a site where you build PC's for people(with gaming in mind) and sell them off for minimal profit margins to get the consumer interested, and gradually dominate the market!
I mean the average Joe would not think twice about handing over say £600 for a machine recommended by his mate(who bought previously from you)
You can tell i study Business Management at school and aiming for the Higher A. :p
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12. December 2007 @ 17:21 |
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Then you'll fail, because you won't make a huge profit! lol
The PC business is pretty well sewn up. If you sell a PC at £50 profit, you'll need a lot of business to make significant return. To do that means selling almost at the same price point as the prebuilt units. The difference is, that you're using higher quality stuff. Trouble is, how do you get dumb consumers to recognise that?
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