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He_Man
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15. December 2007 @ 12:04 |
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15. December 2007 @ 13:23 |
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He_Man
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15. December 2007 @ 13:35 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Not at all, because look how much it costs here:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131173
Shipping Charge: £8.99
Subtotal: £70.26
VAT: £12.31
Total: £82.57
To £68.00 on that Ebay Shop. Even if we take away postage costs it's still cheaper. I may haggle with that guy on Ebay, he has the corsair ram im after aswell.
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15. December 2007 @ 14:17 |
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Oh, my bad. Didn't spot that was without VAT.
I'd still rather buy from ebuyer than ebay though...
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He_Man
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15. December 2007 @ 14:34 |
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I am just looking at e-buyer prices and they are rather expensive(about the same as overclockers)
Scan seems the best bet.
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15. December 2007 @ 16:00 |
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No, just don't bother with crossfire. ATi graphics cards are fine, but crossfire's an absolute joke. I'm almost certain that's where your problems came from.
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Okay. I wonder what a standalone 3870 would have gotten on 3dmark06, probably just over 10,000. So for an extra say £160, to get 2,000/3,000 marks seems pointless
Crossfire only gained 2000 3DMark06 points. Nvidia SLI gave me a much better two card increase over one. The single card score with this Phenom 9500 PC was 10,340, non OCed. When I tried non OCed crossfire I was getting around 12000. Overclocking the cards and the Phenom would score 12,300 or so.
I may not have the crossfire set up correctly though so I may find a way to get more of an improvement. The way it is now, crossfire is a waste of money. I'll search around a bit and see if there is something wrong with the way I have it set up. There is really not a lot to doing it though... Add the second card, add the jumper, open Catylist Control Center and click the Enable Crossfire box.
I can always use the extra card in something else.
It does look rather cool though:
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He_Man
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15. December 2007 @ 16:48 |
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That cable management is "1337"
Ill serach for 3870 crossfire problems, as far as i have found is,
http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.c...&threadid=89578
The dude goes on about BIOS settings,
"have you checked in your BIOS to see if you have your second PCI-E slot disabled or something? there must be something wrong with your settings"
Alos check you are in PCIE mode.
Later, they go on about
"The GPUZ says that the Crossfire mode is not active, and the results that I obtain with 3DMark06 and Crysis are equal than with a single card...
I have changed the Catalyst drivers to 7.10 and 7.10 without Crysis Fix, I have checked a lot of times the BIOS settings, but I can't find nothing that solves this problem."
Oh and here is real 3870 crossfire,
Anyway, what do you think of this ATI 3850?
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-088-HT
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15. December 2007 @ 17:52 |
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I recieved my CM stacker 830 evo case yesterday. man that sucker is huge. it is loaded with a lot of nice features. I don't see how the egg could have shipped it for free. the box was about 30" x 24" x 16". when I do get around to using it, I doubt I will set it on top my desk on the right edge like my mystique is now. I'll probably park it on the right side on the floor and then wheel it out when I need to get behind it (it comes with wheels if I choose to use them).
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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15. December 2007 @ 18:12 |
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He_Man,
That 8800Ultra looks pretty good for a single card! At 14,537 3D Marks, I'd love to see what two of them could do in a good SLI MB. A bit expensive though, to do it, even with this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130090
Anyone here know anything about 2 of these in SLI?
Best Regards,
theone :<)
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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He_Man
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15. December 2007 @ 18:27 |
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15. December 2007 @ 18:36 |
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He_Man,
WOW!! 24,604 3D Marks Of course about $1320 to get it! LOL!!! I'm impressed!
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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He_Man
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15. December 2007 @ 18:38 |
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Now let's all gaze in stardom at two 9800GTX's in SLI. Anyone fancy breaking the 50,000 mark?
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15. December 2007 @ 20:09 |
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I think the record is over 38,000 on 3D mark using 4 video cards...and CPU's at -364F...on a 3 stage cascade cooler...done in San Francisco...
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15. December 2007 @ 21:54 |
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And here's me with my lowly 6900. Oh well! :D
Fasfrank: I love the cable management job, top notch man!
I'm puzzled by that chart. 3850s in crossfire get pretty much the same score as using 3870s?
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15. December 2007 @ 22:26 |
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Sam, I remember when I used to be jealous of your score. Hah!
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15. December 2007 @ 22:51 |
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Bah, you're still jealous of me really. I hold the storage space and monitor high ground! lol
Isn't this pathetic?
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16. December 2007 @ 00:11 |
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If anybody is still looking for good optical drives, I HIGHLY recommend Plextor. I do an extreme amount of downloading/disc burning, and after all the bad burns and drive failures, I spent the extra $ for the Plextors and have never gone back. One brand I highly un-recommend is HP, in particular the dvd740, 840.
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Bah, you're still jealous of me really. I hold the storage space and monitor high ground! lol
Isn't this pathetic?
Haha I don't know Sam, I might have you beat on storage space.
WD 1tb ext (Video)
WD 500gb (Games)
WD 400gb (All Other Files)
WD 250gb ext (Applications)
WD 200gb (Music)
WD 80gb (XP Boot)
WD 35gb x 2 Raptor Raid 0 (Vista Boot)
AcomData 120gb ext (Business Backup)
For a grand total of....2,620gb...lol Anybody remember Win 3.0 and 100mb hard drives?
Anyway, I'm really trying to find a new video card for a friend. anybody have a recommendation for a kind of all in one video card? I'm looking for something that has a coax cable input to watch/record TV, transfer videos from a camcorder or something similar, and a card that can play most of the games I throw at it at a decent resolution. I'm not talking about maxing out frame rates here, just something that will play games at decent quality/resolution.
I was looking at the 8800 GT, but it seems mostly for gaming. I have an ATI all in wonder in my other box, and it works pretty decent, but that was a card from a year or so ago, I'm sure there are better ones for the $ now.
And what is the deal with PCIe 2.0? I was reading a review for the X38 chipsets, and the reviewer was basically saying to forget about it unless I need bleeding edge technology. He was saying it was a X38/48 chipset feature, and that GFX cards today and in the near future won't even be able to max out PCIe 1.0's bandwith, so PCIe 2.0 is essentially useless for now and the foreseeable future. So even for upgrade-ability's sake, is PCIe 2.0 not worth it?
Thanks for the help.
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16. December 2007 @ 00:39 |
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Lol ooh, just about. You have 2.62TB and I currently have 2.60TB. That's pretty damn close!
As for Plextors, they're excellent quality, but carry the appropriate price tag! :)
As for the video card, ATI All in wonder is where it's at. I would never recommend an nvidia card for such use, not because I'm a fanboy, but because nvidia's normal geforce cards don't have proper TV and VIVO support. That's present on all ATI's cards, even the standard Radeons.
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Main PC
Western Digital WD2500AAJS 250GB S-ATA
Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 250GB S-ATA
Linux Fileserver
Western Digital WD2500JS 250GB S-ATA x2
Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB S-ATA x2
External drives
Western Digital WD1600JD 160GB IDE
Western Digital Raptor WD360 36.7GB S-ATA
Samsung Spinpoint HD400LJ 400GB S-ATA
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16. December 2007 @ 01:03 |
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Till I finish my current HTCP build...it will be 6.32TB...all in one case...with a matching one for the New up stairs...
(6)1Tb W/D variable speed SATA 3.0 drives...for Storage...
(1) 320GB Seagate 7200rpm 16MB SATA 3.0...for O/S...Programs...and Games...
Just waiting for the Big price drop that will happen after New Years...
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16. December 2007 @ 01:06 |
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6 terabyte drives. They must have cost an arm and a leg!
I'm glad to see you've got the WD variable speed drives. What are they like?
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16. December 2007 @ 02:11 |
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@Sam
I have not got the W/D drives yet...they are supposed to go below $200 a drive...shortly after New Years...I will have less then 2Gs in the downstairs HTCP with the (6) drives...I built the downstairs HTCP with spare parts...I will probably have about $2,500 in the up stairs HTCP...I have not completely decided on the components for that one...I was going to go Penryn for the (4) Video Card Support...I could have a direct feed to up to (8) TV's if I take that route...Fasfranks problems are kind of making me Leary of that route...My house will be a Full on Smart Home...I will be able to control it from anywhere in the World...every single thing in it will be controlled by computer...Press my Garage Door opener...it will turn on the inside lights...TV's...what ever I want it to do...
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16. December 2007 @ 02:18 |
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I'd avoid Crossfire at all costs. Really I would.
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16. December 2007 @ 02:36 |
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I will not be running in crossfire...I just want the (4) video cards for the (8) possible HD/Blueray video feeds from (1) source...
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16. December 2007 @ 03:00 |
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Thanks He-Man, Thanks Sam!..
With that case I left the top drive bay empty and stuffed a lot of the wiring there. I layered the rest, coming down the front of the mobo and drives. I like to get the front panel connector wiring, USB and audio wiring on the bottom layer, then optical and HDD power next and then the SATAs. and any odd ones last. The 24 pin connector wire bundle and floopy cable tend to hide and hold everything in place. This Siverstone case is tight but manageable. I won't buy another one of these though.
Mort you are going to enjoy that Stacker! Full towers are great to work with and CM does a good job on their lower priced cases so I imagine this one will be excellent to work in.
He-Man, thanks for the links and info. I'm going to bring everything down to default clocks and go from there. Gpuz shows crossfire enabled. It also shows both pci-e slots at 16X. I will probably pull the cards and put them in my Asus P5W-DH mobo ans see what that does.
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16. December 2007 @ 06:15 |
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Hehe, Yeah I wold like to have a monitor like yours. Also guess how much storage space I have? 250GB! Oh also a 80GB Zune.
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