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22. January 2008 @ 23:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by cincyrob:
been doing some looking around .what ya'll think of this mobo?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131225

with this CPU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...k=E8400


you guys seem pretty sure about that processor what makes it better than the one i chose

on the mobo with the graphics card i chose has PCI Express 2.0 which it looks like that board doesnt have
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125086


and btw thanks guys i didnt expect to get responses this fast :)



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22. January 2008 @ 23:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well refer back to my post lol. I put exactly the Same stuff as LP!

Intel is just simply better these days. Couple of years back and I would have NEVER said that but it's true now.

The E8400 is a Wolfdale chip. It consumes less power, makes less heat, has more cache and it overclocks better.

EDIT: I didn't look at your video card before. Get a proper 3870 with GDDR4 ram.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127315

If you're paying this much, might as well do it right.

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22. January 2008 @ 23:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Intel is superior right now...thats all...

The one I chose is the Brand New Penryn...Faster...more cache...uses less electricity...overclocks farther...

"The Go (2)"...was for the memory...if you want 4gb...if the board supports it...I never looked at the spec's of the M/B...just make sure it has 4 DDR2 slots...

If your going crossfire...then the 750 quad P/S...

The A/C 7 Pro is superior...to the Zalman...

And Boozer...Quit Copying Me...LOL..:)

And your going to need fans with that case...I listed some earlier on this page or the next...go with (3) of those...I got a feeling the (1) that comes with the case sucks...


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22. January 2008 @ 23:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ah I half beat you again lol.

What's goin on LP?

Rob, that CPU is excellent. As for the motherboard well I think you can do a little better. From what I've heard I can't put too much trust in Asus motherboards unless they are the 300 dollar versions lol.

This motherboard will do just fine.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128050
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22. January 2008 @ 23:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok thats some great info so
OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800

or

Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066

since the processor you guys chose doesnt have HT technology (does that really do anything, my current build has it...)
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...15037&Tpk=E8400

GIGABYTE GA-X38-DS4 LGA 775 Intel X38
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128080

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro BTW how loud is that?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX ATX12V / EPS12V 750W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

GIGABYTE GV-RX387512H Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 you guys all seem to like this choice
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125086



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22. January 2008 @ 23:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@boozer
That board does not support Crossfire..:)


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22. January 2008 @ 23:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Rob boozer is right go with that Gigabyte and QUIT looking for something better!! :P

@Bladerz05,
Rob's post was a question for him not directed at you. ;) Sorry for the mixup on his/our part. :D

The Crucial DDR2 1066 RAM they are directing you toward is GOOD!! I have the "Tracer" version of that RAM and it's frikkin great!!! :D

I don't understand the "want" for DDR3 RAM right now. It's way to expensive for the performance you get, well IMHO. ;)

Good luck with your build. :) btw which Lite-On are you going with?, you said something about pulling your present DVDRW.

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22. January 2008 @ 23:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lp531

that case i got has 3 120mm fans on it i believe
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156090

and if you think they are insufficient what would you reccommend. i chose that case mostly because i thought it would be a cold case

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22. January 2008 @ 23:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm still saying don't go with that video card. In fact wait for a few weeks. Get the 3870X2 board with onboard crossfire. It's all on one card so you don't need a Motherboard with crossfire support.

LP, you stop copying me! lol

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Originally posted by Lp531:
@boozer
That board does not support Crossfire..:)
I think that I posted that board too. It's funny how many of us there were ready to pounce on this. hehehe. :P

link to Gigbyte website and DS4 mobo

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22. January 2008 @ 23:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
greensman

im not to sure it was a $36 newegg special with lightscribe and it plugs in via sata

abuzar

is that m/b gonna be cost efficient, it sounds pretty pricy

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22. January 2008 @ 23:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by abuzar1:
Let's start again. First I want you to throw the AMD build out the window, pour some gasoline on it, and now you must light it on fire. Now we can concentrate on building a Computer.

CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...15037&Tpk=e8400

Mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128080

Or if you just want to get the 3870X2 card that has built in Crossfire you can save money on the motherboard.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128050

Cooler: If you're gonne spend that much money then get something good. But this should be sifficient even for high overclocks as that CPU is VERY VERY cool.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...eezer%2b7%2bpro

Also you don't need more than 2GB of RAM. Get this as this is VERY fast.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148069


P.S. Holy shit!!! 2 GB PC-8500 RAM for 62 bucks!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...0148069


The first board does have Crossfire. That's why I said if you want you can get the video card that is basically two 3870s in one package and then not require a board with crossfire, which was my second pick. The first board does have crossfire though.


EDIT: Blade, what mobo are you talkin' about?

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 22. January 2008 @ 23:54

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22. January 2008 @ 23:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Bladerz05
Skip the Reaper...go with the Crucial...

I like that M/B choice...

I like the PC Power & Cooling...for its rear mounted fan...In this PC case...a down mounted fan...will be competing with your...CPU Cooler for air...Its really an air flow issue...its a more appropriate design for your choice of cases...

The AC 7 Pro is quieter...and trust me...its better...

@boozer
thats the one you linked to..:)
GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128050
PCI Express x16 quantity (1)



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22. January 2008 @ 23:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
WiFi? compare

i take it these 2 are the same minus the wifi???
if i go this route haveing 2 puters in the house would i need the wifi to get internet without the hard wireing?

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 22. January 2008 @ 23:57

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Bladerz,
Here's another suggestion for a case. ;) DON'T let sammorris see this post. lol.

NZXT Apollo Black

Good case for the money and you can add a 120mm fan to the front if need be. ;) the EGG has plenty to choose from. :D

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22. January 2008 @ 23:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Rob, fix the link please. You really don't wanna listen to us do you lol?

Get the gigabyte!!!

Also Blade I already posted an alternate video card. It's a few dollars more but it's well worth it.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127315
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23. January 2008 @ 00:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by abuzar1:
Originally posted by abuzar1:
Let's start again. First I want you to throw the AMD build out the window, pour some gasoline on it, and now you must light it on fire. Now we can concentrate on building a Computer.

CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...15037&Tpk=e8400

Mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128080

Or if you just want to get the 3870X2 card that has built in Crossfire you can save money on the motherboard.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128050

Cooler: If you're gonne spend that much money then get something good. But this should be sifficient even for high overclocks as that CPU is VERY VERY cool.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...eezer%2b7%2bpro

Also you don't need more than 2GB of RAM. Get this as this is VERY fast.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148069


P.S. Holy shit!!! 2 GB PC-8500 RAM for 62 bucks!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...0148069


The first board does have Crossfire. That's why I said if you want you can get the video card that is basically two 3870s in one package and then not require a board with crossfire, which was my second pick. The first board does have crossfire though.


EDIT: Blade, what mobo are you talkin' about?
ok ummm i am confused now ok i was going with the
GIGABYTE GA-X38-DS4 LGA 775 Intel X38
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128080

"That's why I said if you want you can get the video card that is basically two 3870s in one package and then not require a board with crossfire, which was my second pick."

where is that?

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Or This case...
COOLER MASTER Stacker RC-832-KKN1-GP Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail $169.99 ($109.99 after $60.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free 3 Business Day Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119121

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23. January 2008 @ 00:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by abuzar1:
Rob, fix the link please. You really don't wanna listen to us do you lol?

Get the gigabyte!!!

Also Blade I already posted an alternate video card. It's a few dollars more but it's well worth it.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...4127315


ok i could spend a little more for that card....my big thing is the whine that i have found notorious on radeon fans

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23. January 2008 @ 00:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's not that bad on these cards.

This is the card I was talking about.

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/n...ip-extravaganza

EDIT: The Apollo case is nice, but... no front fan? What were they thinking? We need more front fans!!! lol

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23. January 2008 @ 00:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Reports have it slower then a 8800GTX Ultra...so its not really worth the $$$...


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Originally posted by abuzar1:
It's not that bad on these cards.

This is the card I was talking about.

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/n...ip-extravaganza

EDIT: The Apollo case is nice, but... nor front fan? What were they thinking? We need more front fans!!! lol
HOLY XXXX omg that thing is beastly HOLY XXXX...........551usd.....i think im gonna pass

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Originally posted by Lp531:
Reports have it slower then a 8800GTX Ultra...so its not really worth the $$$...
what is slower? to tell the truth i have never been very fond of nvidia

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23. January 2008 @ 00:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've seen benchmarks with it being about 30 faster than the Ultra in most cases, so yes it IS worth the money in many cases. Of course some games it's about 30 percent slower, but that's just anomalies. I guess it up to you and what games you play. Also that's just China it's about 440 dollars when released here, which is better than 500 you would pay for two 3870s.


Bioshock 1280*1024 = 4% Slower
Bioshock 1920x1200 = 24% Faster
Bioshock 2560*1600 = 39% Faster

COJ 1280*1024 = 11% Faster
COJ 1920x1200 = 24% Faster
COJ 2560*1600 = 10% Faster

COJ 1280*1024 4AA 16AF = 13% Faster
COJ 1920x1200 4AA 16AF = 23% Faster

Crysis 1280*1024 = 13% Slower
Crysis 1920x1200 = 2% Slower
Crysis 2560*1600 = 12% slower

COD4 1280*1024 = 42% Faster
COD4 1920x1200 = 32% Faster
COD4 2560*1600 = 26% Faster

COD4 1280*1024 4AA 16AF = 27% Faster
COD4 1920x1200 4AA 16AF = 20% Faster
COD4 2560*1600 4AA 16AF = 16% Faster

Serious Sam 2 1280*1024 HAA 16AF = 30% Faster
Serious Sam 2 1920x1200 HAA 16AF = 45% Faster
Serious Sam 2 2560*1600 HAA 16AF = 78% Faster

UT3 1280*1024 = 7% Faster
UT3 1920x1200 = 24% Faster
UT3 2560*1600 = 37% Faster

F.E.A.R. 1600*1200 = 20% Faster
F.E.A.R. 2048*1536 = 20% Faster

You can see it varies a bit from game to game, but it's still a good deal.

Well I can't imagine ME having the money to buy this so I'm gonna have YOU guys do it hehehe lol.

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23. January 2008 @ 00:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
why dont u guys like this case?
RAIDMAX Sagitta 2 ATX-928WB Black S
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156090

it has one fan on the front one on the side and one on the rear and their all 120mm

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