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The (new) Official PC building thread!
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25. January 2008 @ 22:12 |
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What's a matter sammyboy??? You don't have a spare £350 sitting around. hehehe. :P
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The ATI Radeon HD 3400 and ATI Radeon HD 3600 series have already enjoyed broad customer adoption and are designed into a significant number of major OEM mainstream and entry-level PCs scheduled to be shipped in 2008.
The official launch event, highlighting both series in depth, will be held in Beijing, China on Wednesday, January 23rd, 2008.
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"Official launch" is set for January 23rd, 2008!!! BUT when are the frikkin retailers gonna get them in??? I'm getting impatient here!!! I've got my eye on this sweet 2600XT for about $92 but if these new HD3600 series cards are gonna be better for about the same money then come on give 'em to us.... lol.
STill messing with this OC but haven't gotten it past 3.735 for some reason!! MORE reading to do and more questions for the people that know!! :D
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25. January 2008 @ 22:16 |
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I may have just ordered an HD3870... I won't get it until tuesday, but hey...
How do you reckon I'll fare in 3dmark06? 10,500?
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25. January 2008 @ 22:17 |
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Holy crap that's EXPENSIVE!
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25. January 2008 @ 22:24 |
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Also I'm expecting more than 11k. I mentioned this before, ATI cards do very well in 3DMark.
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25. January 2008 @ 23:38 |
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Really? I actually couldn't find anyone on 3dmark with more than 10,200 with the card. On an E6550 at 2.33Ghz, somebody posted a score of around 8500. Not exactly worlds apart from my existing score. My extra 860mhz CPU clock may help boost my score, but I'm envisaging I may have to OC the GPU too to get above 10k. Would be disappointing if I had to do so though... Not that I care about 3dmark much. 2560x1600 fluid gaming is what I'm after!
What sort of score does your 3850 pull at 3.2Ghz CPU speed? I know roughly where to aim for then...
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25. January 2008 @ 23:49 |
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I'll redownload 3dmakr and tell you but I think I have gotten 11k on my 3850 so it should be easy on the 3870.
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25. January 2008 @ 23:53 |
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Haha yeah, but with a "proper" Core 2 Duo.
Should be able to climb some ranks on my LAN party's 3dmark leaderboard though!
Interestingly enough it looks like the Sapphire 3870 comes with the full version, which is nice.
Let's see, currently ahead of me is an SLI experiment from a while back at 8500, an E6600/8800GTX at stock and an X2 4600+ with an 8800GTS 512MB, both sitting at the 9200 or so mark.
Above that I've got a 3.4Ghz E6400 and 8800GTS at 10771, would be nice to beat that. Then there are two 11,300 scores to beat (both core 2s at around 3Ghz with 8800GTSs). If I can get above 11295 I'm in the top five lol.
Beyond that point I think it's a lost cause hehe - 3.4Ghz+ and a pair of quad cores, all with GTXes or the G92 GTS.
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25. January 2008 @ 23:55 |
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Ok well you can win Graphics awards but are you good at the games?! lol
Anyone wanna respond the the video editing thing? I have no idea what to download...
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26. January 2008 @ 00:01 |
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Lol not that great really... I just play to have fun, I never really win anything. Except the occasional UT2004 instagib match, and that's a conditional that a certain couple of players aren't in the match, or I'll get severely owned. Looking forward to 2560x1600 COD4 though... :)
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26. January 2008 @ 07:16 |
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Hey check this out. It's a review of a 8800GT card. They test the card with a Phenom 9600 and a Q6600. It seems the Intel outperforms but then the Phenom does better than the Intel! Interesting...
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/palit_8800gt/6.htm
Of course the Intel ouperforms 95% of them time. Chec out this Graph, the blue on the Left is AMD and orange is the Q6600.
EDIT: You guys remember when I said the 256MB 8800GT sucks? Well let me re-enforce that statement.
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26. January 2008 @ 07:30 |
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so by that logic, 512MB card + Intel CPU = win?
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26. January 2008 @ 07:51 |
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Haha yes I guess so.
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26. January 2008 @ 08:21 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Anyone wanna respond the the video editing thing? I have no idea what to download...
I personally have gotten used to Nero I edit the MPG from my Sony SR40 Handycam and turn it into DVD's for the rest of my band to watch our live performances. Only problem is you need a system with your power (problem for others, not you) to edit HD content without transcoding it to MPG first thus losing quality automatically.
I've also used Sony Vegas http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/products/vegasfamily.asp and Ulead http://www.ulead.com/vs/ before but for ease and simplicity have gone back to Nero.
Theres also the the granddaddy of them all from Adobe, something in their creative suite series http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesu...ite_family_home
EDIT---Those are just Windows programs, if you say you are going to run a Mac OS, maybe lurk in their forums for mac was always billed as better at audio/video editing than Windows solutions.
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26. January 2008 @ 09:24 |
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I've got a funny feeling i can push my quad to about 3.4ghz +. I wanna try and break 13,000 in 3dMark.
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26. January 2008 @ 11:20 |
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One of the guys at my LAN posted this score.
Q6600@3.0Ghz, 8800GTS 640MB: 13,631
I don't know if the 8800GTS 640MB benches higher than the 3870 or not, but an extra 400mhz on your quad core should bag you at least another 500 marks I'd reckon.
When my 3870 arrives, i will shortly post its score here. I'll see if I can get the best score for a CPU/Mobo/RAM/GPU combination that cost less than £400!
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26. January 2008 @ 11:36 |
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Greg16,
you should be able to get 3.4ghz out of a Q6600 but that is about their limit.
abuzar,
what kind of video editing are you wanting to do? for dvd's I use DvdRemake Pro. I remove the previews, adverts, warning screens, and special features I don't want. it will do a lot more though, especially the pro version.
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26. January 2008 @ 11:37 |
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Maybe the extra 128mb does make a difference?
I'll see if i can increase my GPU speeds up abit more but my clocks i used seem optimised and any higher will give me a "failed" message.
Should i empahise more on GPU clock or frequency?
The shitty CRT screen is back on the old shitty P4 machine so im stuck with my lappie for ahwile.
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26. January 2008 @ 11:39 |
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Ugh, buy a proper monitor damn it! :)
As for the overclocks, I'd say wait until there's a build of ATitool that supports the card or use rivatuner. I should be in the same boat come tuesday, so I'll be able to offer some first-hand experience...
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26. January 2008 @ 13:04 |
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I honestly don't even have any idea yet. Basic stuff probably.
I'll go ahead and Download the Adobe thing. About the Mac thing, I fully expect it to be horrible so I'm not going to get some programs for it.
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26. January 2008 @ 13:41 |
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Well, a Q6700@3.85 and a 3870 using a small overclock (stock cooler) apparently pulled 13700 marks. How much different do you think that CPU is to mine in terms of 3dmarks? 2000?
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26. January 2008 @ 14:07 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Well, a Q6700@3.85 and a 3870 using a small overclock (stock cooler) apparently pulled 13700 marks. How much different do you think that CPU is to mine in terms of 3dmarks? 2000?
I think your bang on the money there with the 2000 mark difference.
I'm gonna see if i can break the 12,500 mark soon. Just wondering why my card fails at such low overclocks, is it to do with temperatures?
I dled Crysis in 6 hours so i can give that a whirl tommorow.
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26. January 2008 @ 14:11 |
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Did some performance tests in anticipation of comparing them to my 3870 when it arrives.
On my X1900XT at 2560x1600, max settings:
Supreme Commander: 18fps, GPU temp 81C
Supreme Commander Forged Alliance: 8fps, GPU temp 83C
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: 17fps, GPU temp 96C
Rainbow Six Vegas: 9fps, GPU temp: 77C
Call of Duty 4: 23fps, GPu temp: 82C
Note the temperature of Stalker, I had to turn my fan speeds up to get below 90!
Tests run at fan speeds of 750rpm (unified).
I'm hoping to make Stalker, COD4 and Supcom playable at max. Vegas is so poorly programmed it's a lost cause, and Forged Alliance, well we'll see. I can put up with frame rates in the high teens in RTS games like that, so I may still find it playable. I certainly hope so.
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26. January 2008 @ 14:23 |
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I thought you had a fanless cooler on your GPU.
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26. January 2008 @ 14:33 |
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I do, those values are for my case fans and CPU fan.
This is running at max overclock though, which I don't normally do. It's effect on the temps are obvious.
Add to that list:
Colin McRae DiRT (Time Trial Mode): 10fps, GPU temp 91C
I've only played the game for a couple of minutes, but I'm already I'm disillusioned with it, and am certainly glad I didn't buy it. Firstly, I refuse to buy any game that's starforce-infected, and secondly the graphics really aren't that good IMO. They try to cover up poor quality textures with excessive motion blur, which only makes bad graphics worse. I set everything to Ultra and really wasn't all that impressed. The car looks relatively good, but everything else is mediocre at best, especially in the spectator stand, I thought we'd moved away from the cardboard cutouts of gran turismo 4. Obviously not.
So far, Stalker and COD4 are standing out as the best looking games that don't excessively whore your PC.
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28. January 2008 @ 08:10 |
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