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4. February 2008 @ 18:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sam and greensman,

the ram you guys linked to is only cas 5. I would strongly recommend cas 4 for DDR2 800 memory.

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4. February 2008 @ 18:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Russ - Shame the only site I can find it on over here in England is Overclockers at £70 nearly twice what Ive been looking at.

But they do have the 1066 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-114-CR for £65 lol
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4. February 2008 @ 18:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Proper Crucial Ballistix is hard to come by in the UK - this is the only place I've found it so far.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-114-CR

Edit: Ah, pre-empted. Oh well!



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pepp77,
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@Russ - Shame the only site I can find it on over here in England is Overclockers at £70 nearly twice what Ive been looking at.

UGH! Sorry to hear that. As you can see, it's much less expensive here! Very highly rated memory too!

You might check these out. Someone here just bought some and said they were good!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227089

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4. February 2008 @ 18:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by shaffaaf:

spend the extra £5, and get the cm-690. you can also get a side window panel for about £11-12

you can get a side window panle for the CM RC-690? if so where i want one badly if possible???
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sammorris,
Those are the Tracers, not as good! The main complaint is they run very hot, and the failure rate is quite high!

best Regards,
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After doing more research Im edging towards the Geil - its 4-4-4-12 and works at 1.9-2.3v which I assume is good. Also Geil representatives are even responding to customers comments on Newegg which is positive.

If not it may well be the OCZ Platinum but Im a little concerned by the reviews talking about problems with them due to their fixed 2.1v

Edging towards these ones :-
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-058-GL

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you can get a side window panle for the CM RC-690? if so where i want one badly if possible???

I have good news and bad! LOL!! the side window is an option available only from Cooler Master. The bad news is it won't be available until sometime next month! that's straight from CM. They are about 20 minutes or so away from me in Ontario Ca. Hey, half a loaf is better than none! LOL!!

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Pepp77,
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After doing more research Im edging towards the Geil - its 4-4-4-12 and works at 1.9-2.3v which I assume is good. Also Geil representatives are even responding to customers comments on Newegg which is positive.

I can understand why! It's very poorly rated here in the states! I only bought it once. I didn't get my rebate and had to fight with them to return it a couple of months later when it burned out! because the UPC code had been removed. Never again! I sold the ones they finally sent, thank God! Not recommended!

Best Regards,
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4. February 2008 @ 19:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The tracers run hotter because they need more voltage to power those LEDs. That's probably also the reason for the high failure rate.

The LEDS look cool as hell though. Also I've had the gold ones fail on me but not the Tracers.
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Originally posted by Mort81:
sam and greensman,

the ram you guys linked to is only cas 5. I would strongly recommend cas 4 for DDR2 800 memory.

Thanks for noticing that Mort81.... ;)

link to Corsair RAM for Pepp77 cas4 (4-4-4-12) DDR2 800

btw fixed original link as well....... sorry Pepp!!

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4. February 2008 @ 20:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Really? I thought it was the same RAM with LEDs... my bad on that one. The tracers are this week only so £65 versus £70 for the normal stuff. Even the PC6400 CAS4 stuff is nearly £60. The Corsair XMS2 I use however is only £40. Beginning to see why I went with it? Pricing in the UK influences a lot of what I buy.



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4. February 2008 @ 20:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No it IS the same ram. It just needs higher voltage so it can power the LED.
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4. February 2008 @ 20:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's crazy.... Oh well, guess that's one downside of modding your components...



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5. February 2008 @ 03:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Now found these Corsair ones - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduc...id=8&subcat=813

only £41.11 so they are now in front lol

or I could save almost a tenner and go with the 5-5-5-12 Corsair:-
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Component...productId=27405

What benefits are there in getting the 4 instead of 5 version. Im not planning on overclocking at all.

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But still 20 odd quid more expensive than I was looking at.

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5. February 2008 @ 09:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I use the Corsair stuff that's sold for £41 (though I have two sets) and it's great. The downside is that it will limit extreme overclocking slightly. You can still pull off big speeds with it though. In a board with a 2x memory multiplier (such as a Gigabyte p35 board) you can get your FSB all the way to 400 before the memory will pose you a problem. For a 266mhz FSB Core 2 Duo, that's a 50% overclock.



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@Pepp,
Or you could get these and feel really good about yourself. ;)

link to OCZ ram

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LOL - do you have shares in OCZ ;)

They are tempting but loads of reviews are stating you have to fiddle with the BIOS to get them to work, something I havent read about the Corsair. I want to just be able to plug them in and for them to work.
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There are a few types of boards that Corsair memory does not work with, such as Intel-brand OEM boards, but with DFI, Asus or Gigabyte at least, they work fine.



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Originally posted by Pepp77:
LOL - do you have shares in OCZ ;)

They are tempting but loads of reviews are stating you have to fiddle with the BIOS to get them to work, something I havent read about the Corsair. I want to just be able to plug them in and for them to work.
lolz..... NO I don't have an interest in OCZ.... wish I did!! :D

go here Pepp.... The OCZ I linked you too will be ok. I checked compatibility on the Gigabyte P35-DS3R Rev 2.0 (can't remember which mobo you're getting). If you can check your memory compatibility with the mobo you chose that will make it easier to choose the proper RAM.

good luck.....

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Okay I might be tempted by the OCZ, but answer me this whats the difference between:-THIS and THIS.

If anyone says £6 I will shoot them lol.

Also what do the 4-4-4-12, 5-5-5-15 etc actually mean in day to day terms.
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5. February 2008 @ 11:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There's not a lot of difference between those two really. The DFI certified stuff might be better binned, but probably not by much. As for CAS4 and CAS5, think of it as how fast the memory can respond to an instruction, overall it means accessing memory is faster, gives a performance boost similar to that of having a faster CPU.




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Originally posted by cincyrob:
Originally posted by shaffaaf:

spend the extra £5, and get the cm-690. you can also get a side window panel for about £11-12

you can get a side window panle for the CM RC-690? if so where i want one badly if possible???
here we go

http://scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=696881





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