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12. March 2008 @ 23:11 |
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cincyrob,
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there that term is again.."seated in" how do we/i seat it in?just everyday use?
I think he's referring to the curing time for the AS-5! LOL!! Me? I do a proper burn in and then I run it stock for a day or so and try to use all my software to see how things work! Then when I up the speed, I compare how everything works!
Best Regards,
Russ
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12. March 2008 @ 23:42 |
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here's a good deal. too bad I'm not a nvidia nforce chipset fan.
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13. March 2008 @ 01:02 |
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That is a GOOD deal!! btw don't let docTY hear you say that, I think he's a little partial to the nVidia chipset. hehehe. :P
btw has anyone tried the new 780 chipset?? I have the Striker Extreme (680 chipset) but haven't pushed anything yet. ;)
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13. March 2008 @ 01:22 |
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Mort81,
You might want to do a re-think on what you are going to build. I found this for $499. You were asking about the 780i chipset and i happened to come across this! Q6700 and 3 way SLI too! Check it out!
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...=MBM-780I-Q6700
I went ahead and bought that Acer Aspire 5610 laptop for $200! I couldn't pass it up. All I need is to get the recovery disk from Acer for $30 and it will be whole again. I finally found the exact information as there are more 5610 models than a dog has fleas. New they are selling for almost $1000. I just found out today that this one isn't even a year old yet! Not bad though, C2D 2250 1.73GHz, 1GB Ram, 120GB Sata hard drive, WiFi, DVD Burner with Media Center controls and the crystal Brite screen! Sweet!!
Best Regards,
Russ
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13. March 2008 @ 02:45 |
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13. March 2008 @ 02:56 |
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greensman,
I have no idea as to why it even works! You can't do that with Sata data cables! You will eventually have problems with them because you should not put any sharp bends in them! At least that's what I've heard here and in other forums. Maybe someone has a definitive answer to that question!
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Russ
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13. March 2008 @ 03:07 |
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hey GM,
I just got off the phone with the doc. I gave him a personal hello from you. he told me you were so full of $hit btw (only joking).
he doesn't actually have a mobo with the 780i chipset yet but he is pretty partial to his EVGA 680i mobos. like me, he too is fairly interested in the asus maximus formula X38 mobo. he's waiting for the price to come down a little. maybe after the X48 chipset becomes mainstream.
he didn't know of any variant of the X48 that would accomodate DDR2 memory. only DDR3.
Russ,
I saw that. posted the link earlier. I have no interest in the nvidia chipsets though and don't ever intend on using SLI. from what I've heard and read, the intel chipsets are better OC'ers, with the exception of the Doc and his nvidia 680i's and know how.
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13. March 2008 @ 03:14 |
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GM,
me likes the looks of those fans but man those green cables stick out like a diamond in a goats a$$ (just razzin ya buddy).
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13. March 2008 @ 09:04 |
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@Mr.E
so you have 4 of them 140mm fans going in there? 2 on top(where mine is going)1 on the rear and bottom??? i see why your temps are in the low 30's...
i dont know if i said this before but i have the big red machine here right next to my old HP system(think i will call it the OLD REDSOX BOX)lmao and i have my wireless mouse and keyboard next to the HP stuff.. i go and get the keyboard to the hp and have the mouse to the new build and wonder why it aint working...lol
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13. March 2008 @ 09:14 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
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so you have 4 of them 140mm fans going in there? 2 on top(where mine is going)1 on the rear and bottom??? i see why your temps are in the low 30's...
Nope, 120mm on the rear and 140mm on the bottom. So only 3 140mm total. I tried to install one on the rear but there wasn't enough room. You'll see what I'm talking about when you get yours. ;)
Originally posted by RED's boy:
i have my wireless mouse and keyboard next to the HP stuff.. i go and get the keyboard to the hp and have the mouse to the new build and wonder why it aint working...lol
Part of the reason that I have a KVM switch. lol. PLUS the fact that I dont have the room for 2 of everything. :D
.....gm
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13. March 2008 @ 10:19 |
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well i guess i might have to get that KVM switch and see how it works???
you reading this bigwill??? you still got that handy?lol
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13. March 2008 @ 22:54 |
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When you get a new mobo, CPU and cooler...you use the stock fan then use software to compare that set-up to the better cooler? Is this just for info?
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13. March 2008 @ 23:04 |
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herrick,
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When you get a new mobo, CPU and cooler...you use the stock fan then use software to compare that set-up to the better cooler? Is this just for info?
I've compared them, yes. I don't do it every time! LOL!! A while back I took on comparing the Zalman 9500LED vs the Arctic Freezer 7 Pro and the Freezer 64 on 3 platforms. The Arctics won all three! Only by a few degrees. I happened to have all 3 platforms here and the 9500 fits AMD and Intel, so I though I would have some fun! LOL!! I only use the stock cooler if I have to. I did my friend in Chicago's with it as she installed the Freezer 7 Pro there. I wouldn't think about shipping it from here to there with a CPU Cooler mounted!
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Russ
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13. March 2008 @ 23:08 |
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Originally posted by herrick:
@theonejrs
When you get a new mobo, CPU and cooler...you use the stock fan then use software to compare that set-up to the better cooler? Is this just for info?
Geez, I had to re-read that too... lol.
I think he means that he runs the computer at STOCK speeds until he feels it's properly burned in, then he has his way with an OC on the 'new' computer. ;)
I'm of the same opinion as most here. The stock cooler is ok but the after market coolers are much better!! My opinion anyway.....
If you can grab one a TR 120 Ultra or Extreme are great but the AC Freezer 7 Pro is dang good for the money....
....gm
add: I see you already have an after market cooler......
edit: man i'm missing these posts.... lol... Sorry Russ your message came in as I was pushing 'reply'....
edit 2: link to AC Freezer 7 Pro
link to TR 120-Ultra
^^^^^just to give you an idea of the design and principle.... ;) In all honesty these work better than the one you got maybe only a few degrees but better none the less.......
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13. March 2008 @ 23:17 |
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greensman,
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I'm of the same opinion as most here. The stock cooler is ok but the after market coolers are much better!! My opinion anyway.....
Actually I was pretty impressed with the stock cooler that came with my D-940. I used it to set up Gina's and OC it. Only a couple of degrees warmer than with the Freezer 7 Pro!
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If you can grab one a TR 120 Ultra or Extreme are great but the AC Freezer 7 Pro is dang good for the money....
Why would I want to spend the money when I have no use for it? I think I've more than demonstrated that with the right case ventilation, the Freezer 7 is excellent! Besides, I'm not giving up my case! LOL!!
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13. March 2008 @ 23:17 |
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Ya...I was pleased w/ my freezer 64 in till I put it in this case...I blame the Mobos- I was going to get the freezer 7 but wanted to try a different style...so far Im pleased- been on PC all day and Im on # 4 burn and temp is CPU 24c and Mobo 34c
should be a little better when the Actic 5 is in there more...coolers dont have a tight tolerance and need time to fill in all the little, little holes LOL
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13. March 2008 @ 23:33 |
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@Russ,
the message was at herrick actually. I had so many frikkin edits and such that it was difficult to tell. lol. excuse the confusion..... ;)
herrick if that cooler is giving you temps like that then that's great, just be sure to pay attention to the "core" temps. ;) You might d/l coretemp just for comparison's sake.... link for core temp
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14. March 2008 @ 00:12 |
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thanks core temps are #0 28 #1 31
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14. March 2008 @ 00:41 |
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Forgot this earlier. ;)
CM-690 case
E6850
Gigabyte P35-DS3P
Mushkin DDR2 1066 RAM
2- 320 Seagates
4- ODD's (down from 5...hehehe)
3- 140mm Streamliner (AeroCool)
2- 120mm Extreme Turbine (AeroCool) - one on TR Ultra 120 cpu cooler, one on rear exhaust
That was taken this morning when the ambient temps were 69F (20.5C).
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14. March 2008 @ 00:46 |
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so what you are saying the core temps are the thing to look at...how do you lower those? their incased so would it have to do w/ voltage and timing..call me stupid, ROTFL...cause I is!!! that looks like a program I had..ever____ something- what is it???
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14. March 2008 @ 00:55 |
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You lower core temps they way you would normally try to lower temps. Try as less volts as possible without getting unstable, use a better CPU cooler, and move your PC to a place in your house cooler than the rest.
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14. March 2008 @ 00:56 |
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FIRST thing is you aren't st00pid!! Maybe n00bish like me but far from st00pid, I've read your "writings"!! ;)
The cores are cooled from the "heat sink" on the cpu it self. If you can cool the "heat sink" better or faster then the "core temps" stay lower. I'm not saying the "general" cpu temp isn't important it's just not as important as the "core temps", course that's my opinion. ;)
Another thing I should mention is my E6850 is OC'ed to 3.6GHz, soooo the temps are gonna be higher by nature compared to your 3.0GHz E6850. HOW much I can't answer that because I added the TR 120 Ultra after the cpu (cooler) seated in, so the temp comparison's wouldn't be "accurate". :D
Good luck and it's nice to see another "member" with the same cpu. ;)
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edit: added the word cooler....
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14. March 2008 @ 01:24 |
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What do you mean the CPU seated in? The only reason temps go down after time is because the heatpaste sets in after 300 or so hours. So if you applied new stuff the process starts all over again.
That's as far as I know.
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14. March 2008 @ 01:28 |
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Correct...[not so much of the time though- its changed for me] from what I understand and the lingo my computer guy uses? [seated in that is]
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14. March 2008 @ 01:33 |
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does the freezer 7 turn more then 7700 rpm?
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