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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Well the 9800GX2 sucks.
In Crysis on Medium at 1280x1024
8800GT:56
9800GX2:59
It does better at higher res though.
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1331/9...ex.html
Propaganda or what azubar?
they are amazing cards, with an amazing price and rightly have the king of cards performance.
WHAT FOOL BUYS A DUAL GPU CARD FOR THAT LOW RES?????
most xfire/sli setups are for 1920x1200 and 2560x1600.
you would be an idiot to buy even a 512GTS for 1280x1024.
honestly, all i have herd form you ove rthe past months have been nvidia bashing...even sam like them now :p (and right fully so)
last gen they were kak, but this gen theres no stopping them, and now with the rebadged 8 series as 9 series, im sure they will be a hit.
its not their fault there is no need to properly do a 7-8 series style jump, because ati have nothing (until the 3870x2) to challenge them (AMD fault for not giving money) and if they did they would be competing against themselves.
until AMd give the green light for the cash (which they wont seeing as they are in debt), we shall have another war on our hands, until then, nvidia will most likely not be beatenon performance.
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Point of View and Leadtek are both crap brands, so you may as well have the OEM, and since the leadtek at OcUK is a rather mediocre £1.90 cheaper than Aria, a company with a million times better customer service...
I'm going to put out a statistical analysis on the 9800GX2, I think it's a heap of crap as well as Abuzar, but I'll do a bit of number crunching to confirm that.
As much as you'd love to stick up for nvidia shaff, just because a card outperforms everything else doesn't actually make it that good. You have to remember that the aging giant 8800GTX isn't very far ahead of the cheaper cards like the HD3870 and 8800GT, and given that fact, for a card to be priced at the same level as the GTX, it will have to SIGNIFICANTLY outperform it or it too falls in the waste of money category. What's more, with the promising numbers from the 9600GT SLI pair, you have to wonder whether you're better off doing the job yourself.
The tweaktown review is a very poor benchmark because it doesn't really compare the card to anything useful, but I'll do my best...
Omitting:
Cinebench: Synthetic bench
HL2 Episode Two: Frame rate too high
Quake Wars: CPU limited frame rate
Comparing 8800GT OC vs 9800GX2 - so what do you get for your additional 350 dollars?
PT Boats: 14.8% faster
World In Conflict: 12.5% faster (Vista), 10.3% faster (XP)
Crysis: 12.4% faster
UT3: 10.1% faster (Vista), 57.5% faster (XP)
High Quality Vista tests: 18.9% faster
nvidia fails.
A proper benchmark may sit the 9800GX2 in a slightly better light (World In Conflict and PT Boats are the only two really valid tests in that list), but even so, you're not going to get SLI-style performance out of this.
Oh, and if I'm a fool for buying a card like mine for 1280x1024, how come Supreme Commander:Forged Alliance, Assassin's Creed, Rainbow Six Vegas and Crysis are all unplayable at that res?
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Point of View and Leadtek are both crap brands, so you may as well have the OEM, and since the leadtek at OcUK is a rather mediocre £1.90 cheaper than Aria, a company with a million times better customer service...
I'm going to put out a statistical analysis on the 9800GX2, I think it's a heap of crap as well as Abuzar, but I'll do a bit of number crunching to confirm that.
As much as you'd love to stick up for nvidia shaff, just because a card outperforms everything else doesn't actually make it that good. You have to remember that the aging giant 8800GTX isn't very far ahead of the cheaper cards like the HD3870 and 8800GT, and given that fact, for a card to be priced at the same level as the GTX, it will have to SIGNIFICANTLY outperform it or it too falls in the waste of money category. What's more, with the promising numbers from the 9600GT SLI pair, you have to wonder whether you're better off doing the job yourself.
The tweaktown review is a very poor benchmark because it doesn't really compare the card to anything useful, but I'll do my best...
Omitting:
Cinebench: Synthetic bench
HL2 Episode Two: Frame rate too high
Quake Wars: CPU limited frame rate
Comparing 8800GT OC vs 9800GX2 - so what do you get for your additional 350 dollars?
PT Boats: 14.8% faster
World In Conflict: 12.5% faster (Vista), 10.3% faster (XP)
Crysis: 12.4% faster
UT3: 10.1% faster (Vista), 57.5% faster (XP)
High Quality Vista tests: 18.9% faster
nvidia fails.
A proper benchmark may sit the 9800GX2 in a slightly better light (World In Conflict and PT Boats are the only two really valid tests in that list), but even so, you're not going to get SLI-style performance out of this.
Oh, and if I'm a fool for buying a card like mine for 1280x1024, how come Supreme Commander:Forged Alliance, Assassin's Creed, Rainbow Six Vegas and Crysis are all unplayable at that res?
i am an ati fan (ish) but there is no denying the 8 serires are most superior.
what res were those benches taken?
i didnt say you were a fool for buying an HD 3870 for that res (although u ahev a 30" monitor) and apart from COh and crysis, nothing will tax it on that res). this is an enthusiast part of the forums, and if we were in the budget area i would say the 3870 (9600GT) (8800GT) (GTS) (3870x2) in each of their price brakets are simply amazing, but discounting the price, it is the fastest card in the world, and nothing can be said against that. i did not say i would endorse someone buying it, unless they are made of money and upgrade their compnents every few months, casu its rediculuosly priced, and the 3870x2 or the GTX every time for me.
with the XFX GTX being £220, (amazing) i would choose that.
for a two year old card, anyone that bought it then has probably had the best (and for this year aswell) investment in an internal component ever. for a card to last thi s long being only taxed by crysis, is a-bloody-mazing.
and please try to understand the 3870 is comparab;le to the 9600Gt, NOT the 8800GT which is a head (by price aswell) by quite a bit, the GTS also beats it at higher res (1920 +) and gets close to the GTX, that is untill AA and AF are applied, the GTX pulls away fast. (due to the 256 bit interface vs the 384 of the GTX). the 3870 is not near the GTx, ESP when you add AA etc.
you would buy the 3870 for a certain res, and the GTX for another, (unless you want crysis)
when comparing both at lower res, then games are usually CPU limited.
and once again, having owned two leadteks (8600GTS and the 8600GT) i have been very satisfied. i have never needed RMA them, they have a good waranty though, and they usualy come w.o reference coolers, normally zalman.
i would never have OEM over that.
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
i am an ati fan (ish) but there is no denying the 8 serires are most superior.
You live in the UK, ATI cards are cheap. Unless you're shelling out £180 on a proper brand name 8800GTS G92, there's no reason to have anything but an HD3870, you can get a good brand one for so much less than an 8800GT, the latter isn't worth bothering with. In the US it's different, but here, spending £40 just to have a 10% frame rate boost, and be fobbed off with the crummy 8800GT stock cooler? nah.
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
what res were those benches taken?
They are average scores across all three resolutions used. That represents a rough average of the 1680x1050 region, which is what most gamers will use.
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
i didnt say you were a fool for buying an HD 3870 for that res (although u ahev a 30" monitor) and apart from COh and crysis, nothing will tax it on that res)
Let's max the detail settings on all the games on my desktop. Of these there are quite a few games that will lag at 1280x1024. Crysis, DiRT, Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance, Need for Sped Pro Street and Rainbow Six Vegas. Assassin's Creed which is so hotly rated round here will also cause issues at 1280x1024 if you try and max the detail. That's a lot of games that don't run properly.
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
with the XFX GTX being £220, (amazing) i would choose that.
It's amazing that the 8800GTX, which is no faster than the new GTS across the board, still carries a £60 premium.
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
for a two year old card, anyone that bought it then has probably had the best (and for this year aswell) investment in an internal component ever. for a card to last thi long being only taxed by crysis, is a-bloody-mazing.
No, it just means the industry has stalled. It's not something I'm happy about either, but what can we do? I'm glad I didn't buy an 8800GTX. It was only in the last few months that I really needed to upgrade my X1900XT, and I got a similar level of performance to the 8800GTX for well under half what I would have paid for a GTX.
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
and please try to understand the 3870 is comparab;le to the 9600Gt, NOT the 8800GT which is a head (by price aswell) by quite a bit
Many people argue that the HD3870 is beaten by the 8800GT, so I can understand where that comes from, but the 9600? Even the HD3850 has that beat.
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
you would buy the 3870 for a certain res, and the GTX for another, (unless you want crysis)
I bought the HD3870 for 2560x1600, and that's what I use it at. All I did was tweak the detail levels. I usually prefer seeing detail levels that the game designers have chosen to reduce the game's impact on the frame rate, not the detail level nvidia chose to boost the frame rates of their cards in benchmarks, i.e. removing some of the textures they hoped people wouldn't notice. There's no denying nvidia make the fastest cards out there today, but considering how they achieved that, it's a bit of a hollow victory.
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nd once again, having owned two leadteks (8600GTS and the 8600GT) i have been very satisfied.
The only two Leadtek cards my friends have had have both had appalling coolers that were chosen because they were even cheaper than the reference ones. Any company that has that approach is asking for trouble. I don't like some of sapphire's coolers either, but they're chosen for a reason, to be single slot. As the 8800GT proved, single slot coolers for cards that produce that much heat are never good, so I can't really blame Sapphire for making a mediocre cooler. After all, it cools the card well enough, it's just noisy as heck.
This was quite a big rant, but hey. nVidia are in the lead for sales because everybody is being mugged. People in the Uk who spend £40-£50 extra getting a performance difference they'll never see is the work of nvidia's marketing. It wins people over to products that aren't worth paying the extra money for. Sad to say, it works, it's worked on a lot of the people I know, and it seems to have worked on you too.
I have nothing against somebody owning an nvidia product, I've owned one myself and was perfectly satisfied with it, but right now the pricing structure in the UK is such that, well, you're being exploited.
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Originally posted by sammorris:
You live in the UK, ATI cards are cheap. Unless you're shelling out £180 on a proper brand name 8800GTS G92, there's no reason to have anything but an HD3870, you can get a good brand one for so much less than an 8800GT, the latter isn't worth bothering with. In the US it's different, but here, spending £40 just to have a 10% frame rate boost, and be fobbed off with the crummy 8800GT stock cooler? nah.[\quote]
if you want performance at higher res with aa you wont be going for the 3870s, unless its an x2. GT can be gad for as little as £130m the GTS can be had for £165.
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Let's max the detail settings on all the games on my desktop. Of these there are quite a few games that will lag at 1280x1024. Crysis, DiRT, Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance, Need for Sped Pro Street and Rainbow Six Vegas. Assassin's Creed which is so hotly rated round here will also cause issues at 1280x1024 if you try and max the detail. That's a lot of games that don't run properly.
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It's amazing that the 8800GTX, which is no faster than the new GTS across the board, still carries a £60 premium.
and yet when you turn the AA up on higher res it pulls away madly.
if you agree that that 3870x2 is much better than the GTS512 then check this out 
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No, it just means the industry has stalled. It's not something I'm happy about either, but what can we do? I'm glad I didn't buy an 8800GTX. It was only in the last few months that I really needed to upgrade my X1900XT, and I got a similar level of performance to the 8800GTX for well under half what I would have paid for a GTX.
stalled??? so graphics havent got better?
its just testiment to how amazing a two year old gfx card can widthstant the time, and still be on top. it was agead of its time.
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Many people argue that the HD3870 is beaten by the 8800GT, so I can understand where that comes from, but the 9600? Even the HD3850 has that beat.
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I bought the HD3870 for 2560x1600, and that's what I use it at. All I did was tweak the detail levels. I usually prefer seeing detail levels that the game designers have chosen to reduce the game's impact on the frame rate, not the detail level nvidia chose to boost the frame rates of their cards in benchmarks, i.e. removing some of the textures they hoped people wouldn't notice. There's no denying nvidia make the fastest cards out there today, but considering how they achieved that, it's a bit of a hollow victory.
one game, and for some reason they should be murdered for having the best cards?
why anyone would want to game at thier native res with low settings when splashing out on a new cards baffels me.
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The only two Leadtek cards my friends have had have both had appalling coolers that were chosen because they were even cheaper than the reference ones. Any company that has that approach is asking for trouble. I don't like some of sapphire's coolers either, but they're chosen for a reason, to be single slot. As the 8800GT proved, single slot coolers for cards that produce that much heat are never good, so I can't really blame Sapphire for making a mediocre cooler. After all, it cools the card well enough, it's just noisy as heck.
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This was quite a big rant, but hey. nVidia are in the lead for sales because everybody is being mugged. People in the Uk who spend £40-£50 extra getting a performance difference they'll never see is the work of nvidia's marketing. It wins people over to products that aren't worth paying the extra money for. Sad to say, it works, it's worked on a lot of the people I know, and it seems to have worked on you too.
I have nothing against somebody owning an nvidia product, I've owned one myself and was perfectly satisfied with it, but right now the pricing structure in the UK is such that, well, you're being exploited.
clearly it beats the 3850 hands down, and it and the 3870 are on par, with the 8800GT being on top most of the time. and when u hit the AA, the nvidias dominate more.
and at 1280x1024, ur 3870 should be eatign these games alive. must be only a problem for you.
AND ITS A LEADTEK ONE ASWELL!
DOMINANCE
amd with it costing around £105 upwards for the 9600GT, its a bargin.
i laughed when you said t would beat a 3850.
an avergae off all the games toms tested at 1280x1024
nvidia making me like thier products....yeah they did. i hated them during the 7 series gen. anythign they did they mucked up on and AT were galloping ahead on their horse. it turned me into an ati fan, and then the 8 series came along in a sports car, and anthign ati could do to thier horse, even upgrading to a car, nothing helped them this gen.
yeah nvidia got me, but onyl becuase they deserve it, for the performance they give me. and its not £40-50 extra for nothing. its the difference between playable on one res, or with some eyecandy, and anohter res or full eye candy, and to me thats important, as i play games to be amazed by theit beauty, and be sucked in by thier addctiveness. games are the reason i call ym self an enthusiast, and it dont matter the company proving the cards, so long as they allow me ot play thegames i liek at MAX EVERYTHING, with aminimum frame of 30, then i am happy.
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Read my post again. I didn't even mention the HD3870X2 once. I have nothing against it, nor do I think it's very good value. It does, however, sit just beneath the 9800GX2, but quite significantly beneath it in price.
I see you've chosen a useful benchmark of Crysis to compare it, one of the recent games that doesn't properly support crossfire. You've got to work on picking relevant benchmarks!
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
stalled??? so graphics havent[sic] got better?
Not really, unless you count the graphical quality boosts the HD3870 offers but realistically, until DX10.1 comes out (if it ever does), those aren't really much to consider.
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
one game, and for some reason they should be murdered for having the best cards?
Well that's a little extreme, you seem to be getting a bit irate about my words. Be very careful or I'll make you a big green pointy hat with 'fanboy' written on it in capitals! I also note you used the word "best" not "fastest". I'll go make that hat now...
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
why anyone would want to game at thier[sic] native res with low settings when splashing out on a new cards baffels[sic] me.
When you use a monitor this size, you'll see why. You can't really choose 1680x1050 without having to resize it to a small box, or it looks like standard def TV on a HD LCD, if you know what I mean, washed out and blurry. I'd soonr have a crisp image and get rid of those shadows and shaders, most games still have crummy shadows anyway - something you again only really notice at this screen resolution.
Let's take a look at those benches in detail.
COD4@1280x1024 (wait, you're not supposed to be using benchmarks at this res because they're silly!) HD3850 beats the 9600GT without AA, that's what I said. 9600GT equals HD3870 with AA, that's also what I said. (Well, it's 2% faster, big whoop)
COD4@1680x1050 (a bit more like it) Oh look, same as before.
SupCom @ 1280x1024 (Note this is not Forged Alliance, which inexplicably is about three times as demanding as the original game. I played that at 2560x1600 on my old X1900, let alone the 3870). CPU limited really, those tests aren't very relevant. 9600GT pulls away with AA/AF, but I'm probably the only person that uses AA/AF for RealTime Strategy games.
UT3@1280x1024: Same trend as before, and if you can tell the difference between 96fps and 109fps I'll be amazed.
World In Conflict: Yes, I've already seen that benchmark.
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AND ITS A LEADTEK ONE ASWELL!
Hmm, funny that, remind me, when did I say the Leadtek cards were slower?
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
DOMINANCE
Okay, the hat's done, what's your address?
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
i laughed when you said t would beat a 3850.
Hmm, funny that. a) because I didn't say that, but moreso because b) it's true!
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nvidia making me like thier[sic] products....yeah they did. i hated them during the 7 series gen. anythign[sic] they did they mucked up on and AT[sic] were galloping ahead on their horse.
Now I'll stick up for nvidia here. The 7 series was fine, the 7950GX2 was more impressive then than the 9800GX2 is now. Even the 6 series was fine, it was only the Geforce FX5000 series that sucked.
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
yeah nvidia got me, but onyl[sic] becuase[sic] they deserve it, for the performance they give me. and its not £40-50 extra for nothing. its the difference between playable on one res, or with some eyecandy, and anohter[sic] res or full eye candy, and to me thats important
It's important to me, which is why it's a shame the 8800GT can't pull it off. The 8800GT at 1680x1050 is still significantly slower than the HD3870 at 1280x1024, so as far as I'm concered, that's false.
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as i play games to be amazed by theit[sic] beauty, and be sucked in by thier addctiveness. games are the reason i call myself an enthusiast
and I'm even more amazed, because my 3870 actually renders all of the game... :P
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
, so long as they allow me ot[sic] play thegames[sic] i liek[sic] at MAX EVERYTHING, with aminimum[sic] frame of 30, then i am happy.
Still haven't ditched that 15" monitor?
Oh, and I think your post needs a bit of an edit! :P It's all a quote from me apparently!
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Now, now fellas, fight nicely or I'll have to get out the triple chain Gun! ROFLMAO!!
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sammorris,
I don't think this needs an explanation! LOL
My thanks to Tripplite for the graphic!
Best Regards,
Russ
P.S. Your tank won't let me see it! Is it top secret! ROFLMAO!!
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sammorris,
No problem, I'll just call in one of these! LOL!!
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/4750/warthognp6.jpg
Here's it's Ammo carrier! Double LOL!!
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2580/ammocarrieroi8.jpg
The Thunderbolt II's 30mm GAU-8/A Gatling gun can fire 3,900 rounds a minute and can defeat an array of ground targets to include tanks. Some of their other equipment includes an inertial navigation system, electronic countermeasures, target penetration aids, self-protection systems, and AGM-65 Maverick and AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles.
Can you say Bye Bye, Tank! ROFLMAO!!
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Man those are some strange looking computer parts. :)
I'm missing my NEW Intels!! Been on the Parentals Celeron 2.4GHz for the last 3 days and it's killing me!! NOT bad for beating the WWW but other than that it's got nothing to offer me since the move to C2D and Quad. lol. Talk about spoiled!! ;)
Wish I had some more time... I'd force myself on Mort81 for a few hours. ;) I'm about 5 hours from you Morty!! You better be nice. :D
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So wait, what has this got to do with building a PC? lol
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Originally posted by sammorris:
So wait, what has this got to do with building a PC? lol
WELL............ hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......
Maybe building the parents a new machine and going to Mort81's for help or advice in person. Yeh that's it!! Well it sounds good to me. :P
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SORRY to all for the OT posts... sometimes it just can't be helped. :D
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17. March 2008 @ 21:33 |
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Man I got screwed...all i got was a rifle... A Marine- and it servered well
Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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17. March 2008 @ 21:57 |
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and so the battle between sammorris and shaffaaf ragged on for many many thread pages until the inevitable conclusion
any yes....the warranty on the ASUS was expired....
(just feeding the fire)
-tripplite
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Man I got screwed...all i got was a rifle... A Marine- and it servered well
u served!
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17. March 2008 @ 22:11 |
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sammorris,
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So wait, what has this got to do with building a PC? lol
The're both controlled by computers??? LOL!!
The new "Retro Build" is running fine. I added some more software to it today (in between trips! Got the Flu!)LOL!! I would have loved to have owned something like this 4 years ago! I have a friend of mine who's kid has an old very slow 750MHz Celery, so I think it's going to wind up with him. About like comparing the Wright Brothers plane, with a fighter jet! LOL!!
If the original P-4s were Bog slow, the old Celerys ran like they were Wading in Fudge! LOL!!
Best Regards,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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17. March 2008 @ 22:18 |
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If the original P-4s were Bog slow, the old Celerys ran like they were Wading in Fudge! LOL!!
*opens PS CS3 on an old P4 (1.8ghz).....DEAR LORD!
-tripplite
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17. March 2008 @ 22:19 |
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Your computer catches fire if you get owned? Ouch, you ought to look into that!
Just played Games of CounterStrike Source, and more importantly, Call of Duty 4, 2560x1600 Max detail, flawless frame rate. No Anti-Aliasing, but hey, can't win them all.
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