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27. April 2008 @ 22:29 |
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Mort81,
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my P5W DH Deluxe (975X chipset) was a good OC'er and very reliable but even I am amazed at how much more OC friendly my rampage formula (X48 chipset) is.
Why be amazed? Common sense dictates that the more "Bells and whistles", the more tunes you can play! LOL!!
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I'm pleased at 36822 MIPS considering my cpu is only a C2D but I don't know if I can say I'm satisfied.
Then I guess I should be excited for the future then because I was knocking out over 33,000 MIPS at 3.6GHz with my E6750! Bodes very well for the future. Lowest SuperPi so far for me! I ordered the Dominators this morning! so that should improve a bit if I can just get the memory to run at 1066. Actually with the multiplier it should run at 1180MHz (450x2.4)
That's before the memory decided to crap out. I was going to cut the excess off, but I didn't want anyone saying "nice Photoshop job" LOL!! Of course, cincyrob or greensman will probably say that anyway! ROFLMAO!!
Best Regards,
Russ
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27. April 2008 @ 22:40 |
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Russ, I didn't know you knew how to use photoshop so well...
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27. April 2008 @ 23:16 |
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Russ,
I can't guarantee the dominators will run at 1180mhz. I haven't had the need nor have I tried to OC my dominators past 1068mhz since I have 4 fsb straps to choose from. I'm curious to see if they will run there ok. here's my Super PI results:
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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28. April 2008 @ 00:28 |
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Mort81,
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I can't guarantee the dominators will run at 1180mhz. I haven't had the need nor have I tried to OC my dominators past 1068mhz since I have 4 fsb straps to choose from. I'm curious to see if they will run there ok. here's my Super PI results:
That's why I'm kicking my self for not spending a bit more for the E6850. The 9x multi would be a great help as at 3.6GHz it would still be underclocked at 1000MHz, which would help the timings a bit. At 3.8 it would be running at 1155MHz, and I wouldn't be very fussed ovr 11MHz.
I've read claims of 1200MHz for the Dominators on some forums, but no one seems to care much about benchmarks anymore or they use programs like PCMark, which to me doesn't hold a candle to Sandra. When I first joined AD you either provided benchmarks to back up your claims or you got "rode hard and put up wet" until you did or kept your mouth shut. LOL!! I can just hear Soph and the Bear now! LOL!! Remember what I went through over my temps on the 965P/E4300? LOL!!
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Russ, I didn't know you knew how to use photoshop so well...
How can I put this? Go suck an egg! ROFLMFAO!!
Best Regards,
Russ
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28. April 2008 @ 00:54 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
That's why I'm kicking my self for not spending a bit more for the E6850. The 9x multi would be a great help.......
Thanks Russ for backing up my decision to go with the E6850!!! Money is important to save but if you have the little extra it takes to get the best for all the features then go ahead I say. :D
Once I get everything moved over to the new case I may try again on the OC for the E6850. I've only made it to a little under 3.7GHz stable and backed it down to 3.6GHz just for COMPLETE safety and stability....
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Abuzar1,
How can I put this? Go suck an egg! ROFLMFAO!!
Nicely put!!! What else can be said?? heheehe...
...gm
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28. April 2008 @ 03:37 |
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greensman,
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Thanks Russ for backing up my decision to go with the E6850!!! Money is important to save but if you have the little extra it takes to get the best for all the features then go ahead I say. :D
Your welcome! With my computer, I put far too much emphasis on getting 4.0GHz out of it and didn't really plan it out as well as I should have. If I had stopped and done the math I would have waited and bought the E6850 with the 9x multiplier. The 8x multi is a bit harder to work with! Still I'm impressed with what it can do.
I'm not taking anything away from Morty's build as I think it's great and I'm happy for his success, and in spite of what I said about being poor, it's only a comparative thing. True, I no longer make six figures a year, but I'm not exactly starving either! LOL!! I build between 40 and 50 computers a year, do a lot of repairs, have my Turbine design work and the Dental handpiece repairs to keep me in Uncle Sam's Greenstamps.
Everyone has a different outlook on what they do for themselves. To me, it's not what you do, it's what you accomplish doing it. Whether it's high, middle or low end computers, there's a sense of accomplishment in what you do when you take components designed to work a certain way at a certain speed and improve their performance. No matter what level you are working at you still have to put in the time and effort, and your reward becomes what you create. It's the "I did this" and the personal pride that goes with it that makes it rewarding. Not to mention the smile it puts on your face!
Best Regards,
Russ
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28. April 2008 @ 06:45 |
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That's true Mort, but nonetheless the method by which you overclock is pretty much the same as with the high end boards, it's just a bit simpler. It was nice and easy to set the speed of the CPU, but it was a gamble as to whether it worked or not. I know that board is fraut with problems but from what I heard FSB black holes were common with all late nforces. Is this true?
Also bear in mind I experimented with overclocking an A8N-SLI SE. It worked fine (while the board still worked) but was a bit of a faff to get anything out of the CPU.
Russ: I'm still recommending the 6750s and 6850s to people because they're still excellent CPUs. Without the weight on your shoulders of voltage problems, you can overclock them pretty amazingly, especially the 6850.
Originally posted by theonejrs:
the more "Bells and whistles", the more tunes you can play! LOL!
You'd think so wouldn't you? It has to be said though, overall I don't find my X38-DS4 quite as nice as the P35C-DS3R. The BIOS is very slow (it sits on verifying DMI pool data for aaaages). In addition it's using a higher voltage to achieve the same overclock on my CPU. However, I had a thought about that. Maybe it's the same voltage but with less of a Vdroop?
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28. April 2008 @ 07:03 |
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sammorris,
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The BIOS is very slow (it sits on verifying DMI pool data for aaaages).
I don't know what your optical drives are, IDE or Sata. I had the same problem until I set my 2 IDE Opticals to cable select. The problem vanished, never to be heard from again. I did notice that Dell, HP, Gateway and eMachines all do that even though they still use the 40 wire cable for them.
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Russ
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28. April 2008 @ 07:09 |
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I have no IDEs... at all. lol - all I have is two S-ATA hard drives attached.
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28. April 2008 @ 07:29 |
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Hey Sam,
I forgot! check what's plugged into your USB Ports. I had an issue with a usb jump drive where if it was plugged in it would just sit there forever, or at least it seemed like forever. I never did figure out why though. All I know is when I unplugged the USB Drive it blew right on through that screen. If there's a "Boot from other devices in the setup, you might try turning that off and see if it goes away.
Russ
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28. April 2008 @ 07:31 |
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Hmm, interesting. I have a USB flash drive I've used to boot off previously to update my BIOS (even though it reverted back) plugged in...
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28. April 2008 @ 10:42 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Mort81,
Actually with the multiplier it should run at 1180MHz (450x2.4)
I was going to cut the excess off, but I didn't want anyone saying "nice Photoshop job" LOL!! Of course, cincyrob or greensman will probably say that anyway! ROFLMAO!!
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Russ
now Russ wy would we do that. your word is good enough for me........
im at work right now but i did the super PI test before i left. the 1m test i got 12.750s on it. didnt get to see what the 32m got it was testing when i left.. ill post the shot of it tonight.
so running the 1066 mem at around 1140 isnt that bad of a thing to do if it runs there?
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28. April 2008 @ 13:48 |
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cincyrob,
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now Russ wy would we do that. your word is good enough for me........
I didn't see any He-hes, ROLFs or LOLS! so sorry if I offended you! You trying to lull me into a false sense of insecurity?? ROFLMAO :o}
Best Regards,
Russ
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28. April 2008 @ 14:15 |
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naw i wouldnt do that Russ...i think you wouldnt fib about a score ya got or have the need to..lol and you didnt offend me nor i think you did GM.. lol
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28. April 2008 @ 15:34 |
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Robert is correct, it's very difficult to insult me. ;) NOW don't try cause you might actually hurt my little feelings. hehehe.
ON the PHOTOSHOP ordeal... I never thought about a trim job or any thing like that, JUST use your cursor and hover over the bottom (in Russ's case) of the screen (window), left click then "drag" up the window.... lol. Easy as that RUss!!! :P
I'm excited, I should receive delivery of the Thermaltake case, Galaxy HDD case, and 750 Samsung TODAY!!! Woooo-Hooooo.......
....gm
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28. April 2008 @ 15:44 |
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The BIOS is very slow (it sits on verifying DMI pool data for aaaages).
Agreed! And quite annoying.
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I have no IDEs... at all. lol - all I have is two S-ATA hard drives attached.
Same here, except 4 SATA instead of 2.
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If there's a "Boot from other devices in the setup, you might try turning that off and see if it goes away.
The three choices I have for boot device are set at HDD, CD-ROM, and floppy.
At stock CPU speed (333Mhz FSB), to get my memory to run at stock the memory multi is 3.2 and it runs stable like that. CPU-Z shows 5-5-5-15 instead of the 5-7-7-24 that auto settings gave.
Explaining those details, and the fact that it proves I can save some settings and voltages, does it make sense that I cant even change my clock control to manual?
If this was simply a matter of me wanting to up my OC on something, I'd take these posts to the OC thread. I feel that setting your systems timings and learning the setup screen is as much a part of building as smashing a video card in the slot!
Does anyone have any ideas of what to look for next? Any steps to take to figure out the problem because I'm thinking of contacting customer service.
Thanks all for letting me rant again...
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28. April 2008 @ 15:52 |
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Which is the better 1
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Processor BX80570E8400 - 3.0GHz, 6MB Cache, 1333MHz FSB, Wolfdale, Dual-Core, Retail, Socket 775, Processor
Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Processor BX80557E6850 - 3.0GHz, 4MB Cache, 1333MHz FSB, Conroe, Dual-Core, Retail, Socket 775
The Conroe is 90 bucks more then the Wolfdale
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28. April 2008 @ 15:53 |
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The E6850's the better choice in my book, it'll overclock further without any voltage concerns.
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28. April 2008 @ 15:56 |
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rick5446,
No contest! The Wolfdale, all the way! The extra 2MB of L2 cache does make a difference!
Best Regards,
Russ
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28. April 2008 @ 16:03 |
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sammorris,
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The E6850's the better choice in my book, it'll overclock further without any voltage concerns.
Not for $90 more! LOL!! I've seen some E6850's hit 3.6, 3.7 at stock voltage, or with a very minimal increase! At the same speeds SuperPi is about a second better with the Wolfdale just because of the additional L2 Cache!
BTW, did the DMI problem go away?
Respectfully,
Russ
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28. April 2008 @ 16:14 |
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OK Thanks everybody..Just could not see why the 6MB Cache was Cheaper
Other then that the specs look the same
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28. April 2008 @ 16:23 |
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ut oh my E8400 got a vote from someone but me...lol
now that i got mine running this thing fly's gotta got get me my pilot license to operate this bad boy..lol
im running at 3.7ghz with no problems i honestly think i can get 3.8-3.9 with very little increase in my vcore. but why for the little gain'd other than saying i did it.lol
im very happy with the E8400............
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28. April 2008 @ 16:51 |
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Any body know a reliable site, where I can purchase this in the USA
SAPPHIRE 100587 Radeon X600PRO 128MB 128-bit DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card
I ordered 1 yesterday for myself, but I need another 1 for my son-inlaws Computer. Today Newegg is out of stock what e Risser
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28. April 2008 @ 17:00 |
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rick does it have to be the exact card?? if not there are other choices to consider. ;)
....gm
edit: Here's a few to look at, nothing special but near the same price and maybe even better. ;) linky for rick
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28. April 2008 @ 17:01 |
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Or a card that will function the same, but a different brand. I guess I'll end up paying a little more
Need the VIVO, PCI-E
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