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9. July 2008 @ 19:25 |
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the only case with a removable mobo tray I know of is the CM stacker 830 evo but then again I haven't looked very hard. I'm sure there's others.
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9. July 2008 @ 19:33 |
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i too am more geared towards asus. i no way have th experiance that you huys do, as i ahve only been int he game for abotu a year, but with 3 duff GB boards, i went and got my P5K-E and i am happy with it, but i want more OCing options. the increments for voltages are too big (take the NBV, its goes up in 0.15 increments, so from 1.25 to 1.4 then 1.55. (not good) same with the FBST.
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9. July 2008 @ 19:39 |
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shaf,
that is a bit disapointing. my voltages increase in increments of .02v
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9. July 2008 @ 19:43 |
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9. July 2008 @ 19:47 |
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Whats your opinion on this case
Quite good.
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9. July 2008 @ 19:50 |
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9. July 2008 @ 19:58 |
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Originally posted by rick5446:
Which of the 2 is faster Q6700 or Q9450 as their is only $55.00 difference. But both are retail, so I assume they come with stock coolers. If memory serves me right, U have to use these if U want intel to honor warranty
I'm not going to be overclocking, just gonna use it as is
the Q9450 is much faster 12mb L2 cache versus the Q6700 2x4mb L2 cache..
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9. July 2008 @ 19:59 |
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It depends on design and case fans. I don't see an issue with it as long as it's not up front.
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9. July 2008 @ 20:03 |
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IMO PSU bottom mounted is better, as it no longer draws up the heat of the CPU, and therefore doesnt get as hot, and the fan wont need to run at a higher speed.
and mort, i know :( but, well soon ill be having a new build, hopefully with a rampage, (or i am dumb down to a maximus formula LOL)
but it ran my E1240 (1.6) to 3.0 no problems, but due to my ACF7P and the temps i am getting, i wont run it higher.
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9. July 2008 @ 20:31 |
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Originally posted by rick5446:
WoW..I like this CASE, is this a better case the other one ? Other then price
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119138
COOLER MASTER COSMOS 1000 RC-1000-KSN1-GP Black/ Silver Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case..$189.99 3 Business Day Shipping $24.99
I've always heard bottom PSU aren't as efficient cooling as top mounted
@Rick
my opinion the cases both are great choices the cosmos 1000 i would run water cooling just because it don't have no side panel fans or a good heatsink with atlease a 120mm fan on it with enough cfm and low dba to keep the cpu cool enough..then them top two 120mm fans would be out there and replaced with some 140mm fans...
now the 690 cm Dimensions 20.1" x 8.4" x 19.0" is alot less space to keep cool... then cosmos..
now for the psu at the bottom i was scared towards that also..back then..but..i believe that's why they put in two Top fans ports so air can escape fast..but..i have no hot air coming out of my 590 at all not even from my psu unit fan not even blowing any hot air just cool..it's your choice brother..
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9. July 2008 @ 22:18 |
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COSMOS 1000 RC
2 x 120mm top fans..Make these out
1 x 120mm bottom fan..Make this one out
1 x 120mm rear fan..Make this one in..should blow on the CPU, pretty much..Any thoughts on this
That's a lot of cooling, along with the PSU. Isn't it? That should keep it pretty cool I would think, I could be wrong though
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9. July 2008 @ 22:25 |
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you have more outs then in as 4 fans out & 1 fan in. you have a negative pressure. you want equal pressure.
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9. July 2008 @ 22:31 |
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ddp..Any suggestions, bigwill68..suggested water cool 4 this case, I'm thinking that's a little over kill. What about 2 top in, and rear & bottom out
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9. July 2008 @ 22:38 |
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bottom one intake due to cold air rising to hot air, so you want to pull in cold air
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9. July 2008 @ 22:44 |
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rick, remeber you have 5 fans because of psu has at least 1 possibly 2 fans in it.
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9. July 2008 @ 22:44 |
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Originally posted by rick5446:
COSMOS 1000 RC
2 x 120mm top fans..Make these out
1 x 120mm bottom fan..Make this one out
1 x 120mm rear fan..Make this one in..should blow on the CPU, pretty much..Any thoughts on this
That's a lot of cooling, along with the PSU. Isn't it? That should keep it pretty cool I would think, I could be wrong though
you see my case is 3 in and 3 out front is 1 side is 2 and the exhaust is top is 2 back is 1..you gotta try to even the air flow but it is alittle better to have more air coming in...heat raises every 1 should know that..
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9. July 2008 @ 22:52 |
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Thanks everybody, I'll work it out..I know heat rises, And about the PSU FANS which I assume are exaust, as to not be drawing air in. So that leaves rear and bottom for in. Don't particularly like bottom in for dust, but that might be the only recourse. So assuming from what U say to equalize. I'll probably be better off Disconnecting a fan or two
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9. July 2008 @ 22:57 |
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or turning the fans around so can blow in opposite direction as before.
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9. July 2008 @ 22:58 |
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9. July 2008 @ 23:19 |
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lol
Not the best config for overclocking. It's best to get 2x2GB sticks.
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9. July 2008 @ 23:20 |
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rick,
this is the most common fan config:
the fan on the cpu heatsink should be blowing through the cooling fins towards the rear of the case therefor you want the front fan/s blowing in and the rear fan/s blowing out. moving air from front to back across components to cool them and to pull hot air from cpu on through and out of the case (air moving the same direction as it is through the cpu heatsink, front to back).
bottom fan/s sucking in. coolest air will be on the floor/bottom of the pc. pull this air into the case. top fan/s out. hot air will settle in the top of the case. push this air out.
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9. July 2008 @ 23:21 |
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ddp..You mean turn these around
COSMOS 1000 RC
2 x 120mm top fans..Make these out
1 x 120mm bottom fan..Make this one out
1 x 120mm rear fan..Make this one in..should blow on the CPU
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LIKE THIS
2 x 120mm top fans..Make these out
1 x 120mm bottom fan..Make this one in
1 x 120mm rear fan..Make this one in..should blow on the CPU
Then the PSU, only 1 fan on the inside drawing out I assume
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9. July 2008 @ 23:23 |
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@Rick5446
This is how..I would run the fans..see now you had me pull out the snagit..program..lol
i'm pretty sure the air flow will flow pretty good..
ps..sorry for the big image..trying to get a point across..
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9. July 2008 @ 23:25 |
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Also keep in mind the PSU is bottom mounted so its suckink air out
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9. July 2008 @ 23:26 |
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As a rule I dislike too many case fans, because not only are they noisy but more of them isn't always better. I especially dislike side case fans. I have never had a case with side case fans that was better than those without them. I prefer a decent intake fan at the front and perhaps twice that going out the back. If the front fan is pulling air in and the rear fans are blowing out then there is less mechanical resistance. I cool the processor with water which leaves room to add a fan to the passive cooling heat sink which I do like because passive cooling is never quite good enough.
I have an E8400 overclocked to 3.834 GHz. The CPU temps on idle hover around 20c to 22C, core temps around 36c to 40c, and the North bridge 32C. I've stress tested the system for over 10 hours using multicore prime95 using short ffts, and another greater than 10 hours with Orthos. Yes I could clock it higher and lower my standards a bit but to what end? Don't over do things just get a decent case with decent airflow. If you're not going to overclock it over thinking cooling will net you nothing, and if you are overclocking then focus on localizing cooling to the various hot spots first.
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