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10. July 2008 @ 16:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thank you that's all I needed to know. Going to place my order now. be back shortly. Unless their are some suggestions for improvement. The only thing I've ordered already is the PSU, ordered it yesterday
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Good luck with the build! :)



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Wrong thread ;)
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Mort81,
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who cares about hearing it. I want to feel it :)

Tell them what those 32 ft. Bass notes sounded like! Rumor has it your neighbors complained when it sounded like the Woofer was going to have an Orgasim! LOL!! Now that, you can feel! :) The smile is all mine! LOL!!

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Darn it Abuzar, I edited that within 2 minutes and you spotted it! Grr...



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Russ, welcome back!

Sam, oh well. Hahah.
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Indeed, welcome back! - that file you sent me was Awesome russ - must dig it out again sometime.



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good luck with the new build rick. only a couple things I would change but that's all personal preferance and would not effect the quality of the build.

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Indeed, welcome back! - that file you sent me was Awesome russ - must dig it out again sometime.

Just passing by and thought I would respond to this post! From Kansas, to the Theater Pipes, it's the most amazing sound system I've ever heard! The Realtek ACL889A with the Azalia HD Codec is a real winner. DTS or PL-II with DVDs are extraordinary. It's pretty wierd to have someone come up behind your screen view and walk right into the scene. You can literally feel him pass on your right! I also had a stroke of luck in that the eMachine uses the same chip and codec! Both work magnificently!! By yet another stroke of luck, Micro$oft recently released the XP Specific drivers for all the HD chips and video drivers. Before that, Vista would not allow you to even play a DVD, if you had an open video port with the Vista drivers! If you had the capability to record a DVD, like by adding a burner, it wouldn,t let you play it on either drive, even with XP Pro. The new XP drivers from Micro$oft cured that! Before, all you could get was the vista drivers and hoped they worked!

BTW! I've got a better than decent sound system in the front room, and haven't turned it on in months!

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Can you guys help me with something?:
I was about to overclock, but before that, I got cpu-z and it reported that my current clock was only 2.0 GHz....w/ 6x 333mhz. But my BIOS says 8x 333mhz, which got me really confused. I wanna overclock, but first I want to figure why my system might be UNDERclocked, (if it really is)... Can anyone help me figure this out?

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You have EIST enabled. This lowers your multiplier to save power.

You can disable it in the BIOS.
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Mort81..I would appreciate your input. I don't have to agree, but everybody here has been of tremendous help. Believe me I would not know what I know without this site. So fire away I'm interested
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Hears my final list going to start ordering at Midnight.. Any final recomendations !!!
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ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler .............................. $26.99 Free Shipping
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no GPU???? other than that looks good
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Hmmm, if I'm spending THAT much on the motherboard I would just get a Rampage Formula. Although you can just as well get a GA-X48-DS4, save some money, and spend it on a better graphics card. <----- By that I mean get A graphics card.

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yea for 5 bucks more id get the Rampage also..

ok i got my puter here at work. i took out the 2 side panel fans and made the 2 top fans exhaust then the fan in the bottom in front of the PSU is intake as is the front fan.and the rear is exhaust. my temps are down from 43-45 to 39-41 in realtemp. 5 degree cooler. but i dont knwo if that s cause i dont have the side panel on yet.

plus ive been touching the nb and sb. the nb is kinda warm to touch not bad at all. the sb is pretty warm to say dont burn but id say twice as warm as the nb.

got any input on that?

plus ive noticed on my new opty 7200s drive the sata cable that plugs into the back of the drive is cracked...i need a new one....
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Are you SURE. That seems wrong. Why would the SB be hotter than the NB, especially on a OCed system.
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positive just checked it again

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That's really weird. I've never checked SB temps, but I was sure it would be WAY less hotter. Especially because the NB always has the BIG heatsinks and the SB has the small ones.
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mrk44,
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I was about to overclock, but before that, I got cpu-z and it reported that my current clock was only 2.0 GHz....w/ 6x 333mhz. But my BIOS says 8x 333mhz, which got me really confused. I wanna overclock, but first I want to figure why my system might be UNDERclocked, (if it really is)... Can anyone help me figure this out?

It sounds more to me like you have C1E turned on, rather than EIST. I use that so my computer idles at 2.6GHz and jumps to 3.5GHz under load. Run CPUZ and then start prime 95, OCCT or Orthos. If the speed jumps up to 3.0GHz, C1E is likely the problem. It doesn't hurt performance, but just lets the CPU run slower by dropping the multiplier to 6x until a load is put on it.

Russ


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Russ, EIST lowers the multiplier. So how can you tell the difference?
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OK ! Why the rampage over the GIGABYTE ? The gigabyte has 2 more Sata connectors, & 2 more USB connectors, plus a mouse and key plug. Now realize I want the best bang for my buck, along with bells & whistles. So what makes the rampage better
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abuzar1,
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Russ, EIST lowers the multiplier. So how can you tell the difference?

Speedstep comes into play differently and depends on more variables, where C1E is either on or off! Temperature comes into play with EIST, but doesn't with C1E. With just C1E on, it has to reach throttling temperature before it slows down under load!

Russ


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Russ, EIST lowers the multiplier. So how can you tell the difference?
They both lower the multiplier but they're activated by different triggers. I keep a copy of the explanation in a text file for questions such as these since it is easier than trying to answer it myself and messing things up. So here it is:

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C1E enhanced halt state ? Introduced in the Pentium 4 500J-series processors, the C1E halt state replaces the old C1 halt state used on the Pentium 4 and most other x86 CPUs. The C1 halt state is invoked when the operating system's idle process issues a HLT command. (Windows does this constantly when not under a full load.) Entering halt state, which is a lower-power state, will cut a CPU's power consumption and heat production. Intel's new C1E halt state is also invoked by the HLT command, but it turns down the entire CPU's clock frequency (via multiplier control) and voltage in order to work its mojo. This more robust halt state requires significantly less power than the old C1 implementation.
C1E halt cranks the CPU bus multiplier down to its lowest possible level on the 600-series processors, which is 14X, so a P4 660 processor with the C1E halt state active actually runs at 2.8GHz. I believe that C1E halt is also a binary condition invoked by the HLT command; it's either on or it's off.


Enhanced SpeedStep ? SpeedStep also modulates the CPU clock speed and voltage according to load, but it is invoked via another mechanism. The operating system must be aware of SpeedStep, as must the system BIOS, and then the OS can request frequency changes via ACPI SpeedStep is more granular than C1E halt, because it offers multiple rungs up and down the ladder between the maximum and minimum CPU multiplier and voltage levels.

Older processors but still the same.

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