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24. January 2008 @ 15:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think one conclusion that we can easily draw is that crossfire is very easy to get wrong. With any luck the single card that manages it for you should reduce the chance of that happening. I sincerely hope that's the case anyway.
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24. January 2008 @ 16:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah it's basically TWO 3870 GPU on one Card along with double the Ram.
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Yeah I already looked at that. He is the guy who said that AMD is the new King of GFX cards didn't he?
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24. January 2008 @ 16:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, I wouldn't go that far, the X2 still gets raped in Crysis, but then everything does. The Call of Juarez bench is definitely impressive. It'd almost be playable at 2560x1600! lol
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24. January 2008 @ 16:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
maybe those are fake... I mean when the 2 8800GT in SLi (essentially the 9800GX2) only gets 26FPS, then how is this possible?

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24. January 2008 @ 17:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Given the infancy of the card I wouldn't rule that out. Given the comparative score to the GTX though, those tests seem legit.
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29. January 2008 @ 14:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just performed a modest overclock on my GT, took it from 650/1900 to 700/2000, the speed of the SSC edition card I was going to get but wasn't in stock. Rather painless I must say with no noticeable jump in temps and cruised past 12k on 3dmark.


Put over 400 points on my score - doubt it'll help very much for Crysis tho!! Maybe a fps if I'm lucky!

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29. January 2008 @ 14:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not bad...
Suppose I ought to post this here as well:
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4097/3dmarkrecordqv5.jpg



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29. January 2008 @ 14:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nice. Oh if I had a better C2D! That extra 500mhz is deffo giving you the edge, knew I should have got the E6420, then I'd have the extra multiplier so I'd crack the 3.0ghz mark. I'm happy with it tho - I'm sure you are with yours aswell! At 2.99ghz and 11727, it's certainly an improvement on 8579 at 1.86ghz!

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Sam, how does Crysis play? Maybe you can do some benchmarks like the Crysis bench? What are the temps on your 3870x2?

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29. January 2008 @ 15:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Maccer: I run a 4300. Surely the 6320 is better?

Waymon: X2?
I own but the humble single HD3870 thanks very much. Just because I bought two of them...
As for Crysis, using the hacked Ultra settings in DX9 (yes, ultra, some random guy tweaked the settings beyond very high apparently), I get 20-23fps at 1680x1050.




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29. January 2008 @ 16:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well as you know, the differences are the fsb and the cache 200 vs 266 and 2mb vs 4. Yes, stock speeds the E6320 is better, but yours has the luxury of the higher multiplier and better o/c! That's why if I had the E6420 I'd be at 3.4ghz at the same bus speed.
Interesting to note though that my cpu score is a few points higher even with the difference in speeds. Perhaps that extra cache is doing it's job - I always thought the difference between 2 and 4mb was pretty much nil. I'm sure your gfx card is making good use of that extra speed though, even if it doesn't make up for having half the cache in the cpu test.

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29. January 2008 @ 17:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Waoh, wait a second sam! I thought you said the 3870x2 was tempting, that's why I thought you got that! lol

Anyways, those scores are great for a single card then!

Also, I use the Ultra high settings config as well! Looks so much better... Play it at 1280x1024 with around the same frames as you, however in sometimes I get to the mid 30s in the jungle, I guess because there is not to much action.

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29. January 2008 @ 17:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Why doesn't CF help?
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29. January 2008 @ 17:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It would be tempting, but for the fact it's much too expensive.
Abuzar: because Crysis doesn't work properly with Crossfire.



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29. January 2008 @ 18:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the benifits for Dual GPU setups happen at 1920x1200 + Res with AA and full eyecandy, etc.

hell even your 3850 would be same as the gtx at 1024x786 on most games, which then would be CPU limited.



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29. January 2008 @ 20:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey guys, I just thought of something. The 2900 PRO can be flashed to an XT easily. The 2900XT beats out the 3850, and it's only 144!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102717
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29. January 2008 @ 21:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, but is it worth the extra power, and huge slot design? I also hear on newegg a couple of people complaining about overheating, which a card like that with the giant cooler shouldnt be doing.

So abuzar, if you buy it can I have your 3850? :)



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29. January 2008 @ 21:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I LOVE the "huge" slot design. Puts air OUT of my case. I don't like single slot cards.

Depends, how much do you want my card for? It's a pre-overclocked MSI 3850, I'll sell it for 180 ;)

Think my 550VX can handle the 2900XT?
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29. January 2008 @ 21:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The 550W VX will be able to handle the 2900XT, but bear in mind that if you have your PC on for 6 hours a day and game for one of them (less than what's normal for people like us I'd expect) your electricity bill will rise by about $250 a year...



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29. January 2008 @ 21:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Are you serious, 250! Shit, that totally makes it not worth it then!
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29. January 2008 @ 21:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, the 2900XT uses at least double the power of the 3870 at load, so for what it's worth you may as well keep with the 3800 series.
Short term outlay, long term gain.
I'm going to do some investigating with my Sapphire single-slot card tomorrow. Its power usage suggested it was stuck in 3d mode, however, based on the results with my Powercolor card it looks like the 3d mode power consumption applies up until the drivers are loaded, then it spools down. If the Sapphire card can manage this in windows, my concerns about it are unfounded. After all, it's noisy, but presumably only in 3d mode, and if you're overclocking, the reference cooler is louder, because you have to bring the fan speed up.




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29. January 2008 @ 21:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I hate the coolers on the 3850. Stupid ATI, would two slot coolers have KILLED them? All that heat in my case, passing over my CPU! I'm still selling my 3850 though, for 180. One of my friends might be buying it.

Then I can get this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130318

EDIT: Shit! Just went outta stock. Ok then I'll get this. They're having blow-out sales on the 8800GTs! The 3870 is actually 10 dollars more!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500005

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29. January 2008 @ 21:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not when it's out of stock you can't!
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