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GFX CARD HELP!
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2. August 2007 @ 10:36 |
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ok, so say i manage to scrape together £300! (i know changing and changing!) Would i be able to get the 640mb, it seems my heart is set on it! and how long do you think the 8800 will last before i need to start thinking about upgrading it again?
So with the 8800, and the PSU, and the ram, could i by any chance get it all for 300? Thanks alot.
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2. August 2007 @ 10:39 |
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It'd be doable with the 320MB, not the 640MB. The card we've been using is the 8600GTS, significantly slower than the 320MB 8800. The minimum budget to do the 640 with would be around £340.
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2. August 2007 @ 10:41 |
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So with 300, what do you think my best option would be? And by best i mean, what would push the money to its max, if you get me! Thanks.
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2. August 2007 @ 10:46 |
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oh, and sorry i dont know how to edit, but which of the two/three cards are DX10. And does DX10 work with XP?
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2. August 2007 @ 11:09 |
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All the geforce 8000 series are dx10 compliant, but XP cannot support Directx10. I highly disrecommend going to Vista just to get Directx10.
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2. August 2007 @ 11:14 |
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So when games like cysis come out, everyone will have to upgrade to vista? Thats sucks!! i really dont want to get it.
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2. August 2007 @ 11:29 |
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To get the Directx10 features perhaps. Currently all the Vista only games are modifiable to run on XP, since they're not directx10.
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3. August 2007 @ 05:21 |
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ok guys, so heres the thing. I was looking on ebuyer for what to get and i found a few things i was suprised at, could you take a look?
First of all was this 1gb stick of Kingston ram for £25.98
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/...oduct_uid=91121
Second was this PSU - i know its ebuyers own make but its 550W for £19.98
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/102993/rb/0
Just because I was thinking of getting 2 sticks of 1gb ram and that PSU for £61.22 and then having the rest of the 300 to spend on the gfx card. Please tell me if this is stupid or not.
Thanks alot. Also could someone tell me how to find out what is able to go on my motherboard.
I know this is alot of questions so thanks!
Ben
oh and if anyone knows how to edit on these forums please could you tell me!
EDIT: Dont worry!! i just found it!
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3. August 2007 @ 05:48 |
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Just to say the memory that you posted isnt compatible with your board as you require 184pin ddr400 or ddr333,ddr266 .not the 240 pin ddr2.
I think many would agree that when you see a word such as "value" added to a title of an item such as the psu, it usually means the components arnt made to the best standard. So going for the cheaper option will show its lifespan time down the line.
Heres the manufacturers website for your motherboard, telling you exactly what its capable of supporting:-
http://www.giga-byte.com.tw/Products/Mot...Name=GA-K8NMF-9
PD 3.8ghz (OC) Duo, Air Duct tubed Antec p182, 2gb ddr2 800mhz,Adaptec 29320A-R U320, 2 x 72gb 15k scsi hdds, 150gb 10k sata Wd Raptor, 2 x LG Supermulti dvdrw, Tagan TG700-U35 700w, Realtek HD Audio, Nvidia 8600gts (OC) 760/2350mhz Limited Edition HDMI. Yuraku 19" TS.
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3. August 2007 @ 05:51 |
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oh no!!well ive definately gotta look out for things liek that. so what, would that mean if i brought it then it wouldnt fit or something?
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3. August 2007 @ 05:58 |
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correct the memory would not fit as its made only to fit its own specific slot.
PD 3.8ghz (OC) Duo, Air Duct tubed Antec p182, 2gb ddr2 800mhz,Adaptec 29320A-R U320, 2 x 72gb 15k scsi hdds, 150gb 10k sata Wd Raptor, 2 x LG Supermulti dvdrw, Tagan TG700-U35 700w, Realtek HD Audio, Nvidia 8600gts (OC) 760/2350mhz Limited Edition HDMI. Yuraku 19" TS.
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3. August 2007 @ 06:00 |
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3. August 2007 @ 06:35 |
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Yeah the specs of it suggest it would be compatible.
PD 3.8ghz (OC) Duo, Air Duct tubed Antec p182, 2gb ddr2 800mhz,Adaptec 29320A-R U320, 2 x 72gb 15k scsi hdds, 150gb 10k sata Wd Raptor, 2 x LG Supermulti dvdrw, Tagan TG700-U35 700w, Realtek HD Audio, Nvidia 8600gts (OC) 760/2350mhz Limited Edition HDMI. Yuraku 19" TS.
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3. August 2007 @ 07:22 |
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Note that I had an ebuyer 600W unit, and its maximum output was 130W before it failed and turned off.
AVOID
Oh yeah, and so you know, It was replaced with a 450W unit costing £5 more (so more money for fewer watts), and after a year that broke and in the process toasted half the components in my PC and blew a THIRTEEN AMP FUSE. Now in the UK that's a lot of power it accidentally provided. A floppy disk drive had a melted corner, and a 200GB hard disk lost all its data. Fortunately the other three survived.
never buy cheap power supplies. I wouldn't ever trust expensive PC components and my data down to 'getting lucky'.
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3. August 2007 @ 07:25 |
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ok, sorry to sound like a noob! but when you say the max it could go was 130w before it broke what does that mean? i thought that whatever the watt is in your case 600w is what it does?? do you have to change it yourself or something? Thanks for the info.
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3. August 2007 @ 07:36 |
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Nope, it was advertised as 600W, but because it was poorly made, it broke when I used my processor fully. By adding up how much power those components used it came to 130W.
Most cheap power supplies in fact pretty much all of them fail long before they reach their rated wattage. Even some good ones do, for example the OCZ ProXStream PSU rated at 1020W can only produce about 800 before it turns off.
Why is this?
Inside the Power supply, there are components which regulate the voltage that runs through the unit to make sure the power delivered is ncie and stable. In expensive power supplies, these are high quality devices with enormous heatsinks to make sure they stay cool.
In cheap Power supplies, these are tacky components that cost a couple of pence with a tiny little piece of metal that calls itself a 'heatsink'. Either the components stop working because they can't take the power, or the components will break because they get too hot. it's all very well putting a noisy fan in the unit, but if the heatsink isn't good enough, no amount of air is going to stop the regulators from getting fried.
Example of what can happen:
Example of a well made PSU inside:
Example of a cheap PSU inside:
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3. August 2007 @ 07:53 |
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OHHHH, got ya. Well thanks alot, thats gna help me alot now, ill search for good ones, i never realized what actually happens with things like that. The diagrams really helped . Thanks alot.
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3. August 2007 @ 07:58 |
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The power supplies I highly recommend at the moment are the Corsair HX and Seasonic S12 series, but if they seem a little expensive, then you can try an OCZ model.
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3. August 2007 @ 08:04 |
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Can be a real eye opener having witnessed it. Even if your within your warranty with the psu its pointless as it done its damage as you said, and for a measly little refund its not good enough.
PD 3.8ghz (OC) Duo, Air Duct tubed Antec p182, 2gb ddr2 800mhz,Adaptec 29320A-R U320, 2 x 72gb 15k scsi hdds, 150gb 10k sata Wd Raptor, 2 x LG Supermulti dvdrw, Tagan TG700-U35 700w, Realtek HD Audio, Nvidia 8600gts (OC) 760/2350mhz Limited Edition HDMI. Yuraku 19" TS.
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3. August 2007 @ 08:09 |
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so wait, when you say its done its damage, do you mean it not only fries itself, but the rest of the pc with it?
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3. August 2007 @ 08:20 |
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Usually. Not always, but in most cases, components get damaged. I had about £150 of damage and 200GB of data lost because of a £25 PSU.
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3. August 2007 @ 08:23 |
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ooohhh, damn. Sorry to hear that. But thanks so much to all of you for that, i might have lost everyting. You guys have been really helpful so far, thanks alot.
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4. August 2007 @ 02:43 |
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OK all, today im off to buy all my hardware. Id really like to thank you all so much for all of your help. If you'd like, ill post back to tell you what i got for my budget and if you want, you can post back saying what you think. Its up to you.
But id just like to say you were all very helpful.
Thanks.
Ben.
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4. August 2007 @ 03:31 |
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Sure, it's been a pleasure. Let us know how it all turns out.
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4. August 2007 @ 06:05 |
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ok, so heres what i brought. It all came to £335.00
Nvidia 8800gts 640mb
1gb ram
550w fan
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