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Mark_T
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17. October 2007 @ 18:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi guys, bit of a weird one here...

I have an internal Pioneer K14RA DVD RW drive on my laptop and up until last week I was burning DVD video discs all day long with no issues whatsoever until...

I started burning backup xbox 360 discs which my internal drive couldn't do because it wouldn't burn with the booktype as DVD-ROM as required for backups so after researching on forums I bought a separate Pioneer 112D drive to do this that I have fitted to an external enclosure hooked up to the laptop via a USB2 connection and that just burns the discs without me having to worry about setting the DVD-ROM booktype on DL media which is tried and tested and I can confirm as working.

Anyway... the problem I have now is that I normally use a program called convertxtodvd that converts my AVI's to VIDEO_TS files and burns them onto the discs for me and it does all this using my original K14RA drive that I have been able to do from day one and of which the drive should not have been affected. When I try burning discs both with that program and/or Nero, once the burn is complete they seem to be blank. When I go into "my computer" the drive icon refers to it as a DVD-ROM rather than DVD video, the file size is 0kb and I cannot write anything on the discs they're just coasters... I even went through the kiddies picture nero menu once to ensure it was set to DVD video!! This is just on normal 4.7 gig single layer media btw, the DL is solely for the 360.

My questions is... with both drives being pioneer and the 112D being plug and play my computer self installed the new 112D drive when it was plugged in. When it did this could it have affected the drivers for the K14RA drive and is maybe forcing it to burn all future discs as DVD-ROMs and thus f*cking up my DVD videos? When I click on the driver details they BOTH say:

Driver Provider: Microsoft
Driver Date: 01/07/2001
Driver Version: 5.1.2535.0
Digital Signer: Microsoft Windows Publisher

This suggests to me that the installation of my 112D may have reinstalled new drivers for the K14RA drive which is causing me issues perhaps?

I want to use the 112D solely for xbox360 backups with the file type as DVD-ROM but use the internal K14RA for normal everyday audio CD/DVD video usage.

How can I do this?! I've tried burning VIDEO_TS files with both drives and with both of these programs and still no luck. They're all just coasters that come out as DVD-ROM's. If I need to, how can I revert the K14RA back to how it was previously without affecting the 112D? Or what else could it be?! please help =(
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17. October 2007 @ 21:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
first off i dont think that using the external pioneer is messing up your internal drive.

What brand of dvd's are you using? format?
What speed are you burning at?
Whats you firmware for both drives?(you can find this with NeroInfoTool)

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I bought a separate Pioneer 112D drive to do this that I have fitted to an external enclosure hooked up to the laptop via a USB2 connection and that just burns the discs without me having to worry about setting the DVD-ROM booktype on DL media which is tried and tested and I can confirm as working.

unless i am missing something i was under the impression the pioneer drive are not capable of booktyping(unless you use a buffalo firmware) is that the firmware you have for the external pioneer?





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18. October 2007 @ 18:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Erm the ones I were using were tesco 4.7 gig DVD + R's. Now I know they're nothing special and aren't the verbs of the media world but they dont even work on my laptop let alone DVD player once I've burnt them. they're rated at 8 speed and I was only burning at 2 speed. With the firmware... this means nothing to me but here goes:

Nero InfoTool 2.00

Drive Information
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Drive : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K14RA
Type : DVD-R/RW Combo Drive
Firmware Version : 1.00
Buffer Size : 2000 KB
Date : 04-07-20
Serial Number : EADL128260WL
Drive Letter : E:\
Location : 1:0
Mechanism : Tray
Read Speed : 4 X
Write Speed : 4 X

Read CD Text : Yes
Return C2 Pointers : Yes
Read CD-R : Yes
Read CD-RW : Yes
Read DVD-ROM : Yes
Read DVD-RAM : No
Read DVD-R : Yes
Read DVD-RW : Yes
Read DVD+R : Yes
Read DVD+RW : Yes
Read Digital Audio : Yes
Read CD+G : No
Read VideoCD : Yes

Write CD-R : Yes
Write CD-RW : Yes
Write DVD-R : Yes
Write DVD-RW : Yes
Write DVD+R : Yes
Write DVD+RW : Yes
Write DVD-RAM : No
Buffer Underrun Protection : Yes
Mount Rainier : No
Modes : Packet, TAO, DAO, SAO, RAW SAO, RAW DAO, RAW SAO 16, RAW SAO 96, RAW DAO 16, RAW DAO 96

Region Protection Control : RPC II
Region : None
Changes User : 5
Changes Vendor : 4

Disc Information (E:\)
-------------------
Type : Blank DVD+R


Interface Information
---------------------
Adapter 1
---------
Description : Primary IDE Channel

Driver
Description : system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys
Company : Microsoft Corporation
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Description : IDE/ATAPI Port Driver

Attached Devices
Description : Master: IC25N060ATMR04-0
Type : Disk Drive
DMA : On

Adapter 2
---------
Description : Secondary IDE Channel

Driver
Description : system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys
Company : Microsoft Corporation
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Description : IDE/ATAPI Port Driver

Attached Devices
Description : Master: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K14RA
Type : CD-Rom Drive
DMA : On
Autorun : On

Adapter 3
---------
Description : Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller

Driver
Description : system32\DRIVERS\usbohci.sys
Company : Microsoft Corporation
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Description : OHCI USB Miniport Driver

Attached Devices
Description : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112D USB Device
Type : CD-Rom Drive
Autorun : On


Software Information
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Operating System : Windows XP Home Edition (5.01.2600 Service Pack 2)
ASPI : Nero Aspi Library 2.0.1.56 Ahead Software AG

Description : Nero Burning ROM
Version : 6, 0, 0, 0
Company : Ahead Software AG
Version Check : Ok

Description
Version : 2,0,0,4
Company : Ahead Software AG

Description : CloneCD Replicator Program
Version : 5.3.0.1
Company : SlySoft, Inc.


Hardware Information
--------------------
CPU : ?
Bus Speed : ?
Motherboard : ?
System : ?
BIOS : ?
Memory : 510 MB
Sound : Realtek AC97 Audio
Video : ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9700 Series

Driver Information
------------------
Driver : ACPI
Description : ACPI Driver for NT
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : ACPIEC
Description : ACPI Embedded Controller Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : ALCXSENS
Description : Sensaura WDM 3D Audio Driver
Version : 5.10.00.3513
Company : Sensaura

Driver : ALCXWDM
Description : Realtek AC'97 Audio Driver (WDM)
Version : 5.10.5620
Company : Realtek Semiconductor Corp.

Driver : Arp1394
Description : IP/1394 Arp Client
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : atapi
Description : IDE/ATAPI Port Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : ati2mtag
Description : ATI Radeon WindowsNT Miniport Driver
Version : 6.14.10.6451
Company : ATI Technologies Inc.

Driver : atiide
Description : ATI IDE BUS Master Controller Driver
Version : 1.00.0000.2 built by: WinDDK
Company : ATI Technologies Inc.

Driver : audstub
Description : AudStub Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.0 (XPClient.010817-1148)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : Cdfs
Description : CD-ROM File System Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : Cdrom
Description : SCSI CD-ROM Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : CmBatt
Description : Control Method Battery Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : Compbatt
Description : Composite Battery Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : Disk
Description : PnP Disk Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : DKbFltr
Description : Dritek PS2 Keyboard Filter Driver
Version : 3, 0, 2, 1
Company : Dritek System Inc.

Driver : ElbyCDFL
Description : ElbyCDIO Filter Driver
Version : 5, 2, 1, 3
Company : SlySoft, Inc.

Driver : ElbyCDIO
Description : ElbyCD Windows NT/2000/XP I/O driver
Version : 6, 0, 0, 1
Company : Elaborate Bytes AG

Driver : Fastfat
Description : Fast FAT File System Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : FltMgr
Description : Microsoft Filesystem Filter Manager
Version : 5.1.2600.2978 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.060821-0039)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : Ftdisk
Description : FT Disk Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.0 (XPClient.010817-1148)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : GEARAspiWDM
Description : CD/DVD Class Filter Driver
Version : 2.0.6.1
Company : GEAR Software Inc.

Driver : HTTP
Description : HTTP Protocol Stack
Version : 5.1.2600.2869 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.060316-1512)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : i8042prt
Description : i8042 Port Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : Imapi
Description : IMAPI Kernel Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : intelppm
Description : Processor Device Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : IpNat
Description : IP Network Address Translator
Version : 5.1.2600.2524 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.040919-1056)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : IPSec
Description : IPSec Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : irda
Description : IRDA Protocol Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : IRENUM
Description : Infra-Red Bus Enumerator
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : isapnp
Description : PNP ISA Bus Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : Modem
Description : Modem Device Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : MRxDAV
Description : Windows NT WebDav Minirdr
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : mssmbios
Description : System Management BIOS Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : NdisTapi
Description : NDIS 3.0 connection wrapper driver
Version : 5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : Ndisuio
Description : NDIS User mode I/O Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : NdisWan
Description : MS PPP Framing Driver (Strong Encryption)
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : NIC1394
Description : IEEE1394 Ndis Miniport and Call Manager
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : Npfs
Description : NPFS Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : Ntfs
Description : NT File System Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.3081 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.070209-0028)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : NTIDrvr
Description : NTI CD-ROM Filter Driver
Version : 1, 0, 0, 5
Company : NewTech Infosystems, Inc.

Driver : ohci1394
Description : 1394 OpenHCI Port Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : PartMgr
Description : Partition Manager
Version : 5.1.2600.0 (XPClient.010817-1148)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : PCI
Description : NT Plug and Play PCI Enumerator
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : PCIIde
Description : Generic PCI IDE Bus Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.0 (XPClient.010817-1148)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : Pcmcia
Description : PCMCIA Bus Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : pcouffin
Description : low level access layer for CD/DVD/BD devices
Version : 1.37
Company : VSO Software

Driver : pfc
Description : Padus(R) ASPI Shell
Version : 2, 5, 0, 204
Company : Padus, Inc.

Driver : PSched
Description : MS QoS Packet Scheduler
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : Ptilink
Description : Parallel Technologies DirectParallel IO Library
Version : 1.10 (XPClient.010817-1148)
Company : Parallel Technologies, Inc.

Driver : Rasirda
Description : IrDA WAN Miniport Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : Rasl2tp
Description : RAS L2TP mini-port/call-manager driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : RasPppoe
Description : RAS PPPoE mini-port/call-manager driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : Raspti
Description : PTI DirectParallel(R) mini-port/call-manager driver
Version : 5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : Rdbss
Description : Redirected Drive Buffering SubSystem Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2902 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.060505-0036)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : RDPCDD
Description : RDP Miniport
Version : 5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : redbook
Description : Redbook Audio Filter Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : Secdrv
Description : Macrovision SECURITY Driver
Version : 4.00.060
Company : Macrovision Corporation, Macrovision Europe Limited, and Macrovision Japan and Asia K.K.

Driver : SMCIRDA
Description : SMC IrCC NDIS 5.0 IrDA FIR Device Driver
Version : 5.1.3600.3
Company : SMC

Driver : sr
Description : System Restore Filesystem Filter Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : Srv
Description : Server driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2974 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.060814-0101)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : swenum
Description : Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator
Version : 5.3.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : SymEvent
Description : Symantec Event Library
Version : 11.6.4.1
Company : Symantec Corporation

Driver : SYMREDRV
Description : Redirector Filter Driver
Version : 5.5.1.6
Company : Symantec Corporation

Driver : SYMTDI
Description : Network Dispatch Driver
Version : 5.5.1.6
Company : Symantec Corporation

Driver : SynTP
Description : Synaptics Touchpad Driver
Version : 7.10.10 07May04
Company : Synaptics, Inc.

Driver : sysaudio
Description : System Audio WDM Filter
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : Tcpip
Description : TCP/IP Protocol Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2892 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.060420-0254)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : TermDD
Description : Terminal Server Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : Update
Description : Update Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.3124 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.070423-0049)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : usbehci
Description : EHCI eUSB Miniport Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : usbhub
Description : Default Hub Driver for USB
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : usbohci
Description : OHCI USB Miniport Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : USBSTOR
Description : USB Mass Storage Class Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : VolSnap
Description : Volume Shadow Copy Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : Wanarp
Description : MS Remote Access and Routing ARP Driver
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : msvcrt.dll
Version : 7.0.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)

Driver : msvcirt.dll
Version : 7.0.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)

Driver : mfc42.dll
Version : 6.02.4131.0

Driver : msvcp60.dll
Version : 6.02.3104.0

Driver : msvcp70.dll
Version : 7.00.9466.0

Driver : msvcr70.dll
Version : 7.00.9466.0

Driver : ole32.dll
Version : 5.1.2600.2726 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.050725-1528)

Driver : olepro32.dll
Version : 5.1.2600.2180

Driver : oledlg.dll
Version : 1.0 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.061016-0148)

Driver : advapi32.dll
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)

Driver : comctl32.dll
Version : 5.82 (xpsp.060825-0040)

Driver : setupapi.dll
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)

Lower Filters
-------------
Driver : ElbyCDFL
Description : ElbyCDIO Filter Driver
Version : 5, 2, 1, 3
Company : SlySoft, Inc.

Upper Filters
-------------
Driver : NTIDrvr
Description : NTI CD-ROM Filter Driver
Version : 1, 0, 0, 5
Company : NewTech Infosystems, Inc.

Video Codecs
------------
Cinepak Codec by Radius : 1.10.0.11
Intel 4|2|0 Video V2.50 : 5.1.2600.2180
Intel Indeo(R) Video R3.2
Intel Indeo(R) Video R3.2
Intel Indeo® Video 4.5 : 4.51.16.03
Intel IYUV codec : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Microsoft RLE : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Microsoft Video 1 : 5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)
Microsoft YUV : 5.3.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Microsoft YUV : 5.3.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Toshiba YUV Codec : 5.1.2600.0 (XPClient.010817-1148)
Microsoft YUV : 5.3.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Microsoft H.263 Video Codec : 5.1.2600.2180
Microsoft H.261 Video Codec : 5.1.2600.2180
Indeo® video 5.10 : R.5.10.15.2.55
DivX Pro 5.0.5 Codec : 5.0.5.830

Audio Codecs
------------
Microsoft IMA ADPCM CODEC : 4.00.0.0
Microsoft ADPCM CODEC : 4.00.0.0
Microsoft CCITT G.711 A-Law and u-Law CODEC : 4.00.0.0
Microsoft GSM 6.10 Audio CODEC : 4.00.0.0
DSP Group TrueSpeech(TM) Software CODEC : 1.00.0.0
Microsoft G.723.1 CODEC : 1.02.0.1
Windows Media Audio : 4.02.0.0
Sipro Lab Telecom ACELP.net audio codec : 3.02.0.0
Indeo® audio software : 2.05.0.53
Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (advanced) : 1.09.1.49
Messenger Audio Codec : 4.00.0.0
Microsoft PCM Converter : 5.00.0.0


ASPI Information
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System ASPI : ASPI is not installed

Nero ASPI : ASPI is installed and working properly

WNASPI32.DLL : 2.0.1.56 163910 bytes July 13, 2003
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21. October 2007 @ 18:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
quick update... its deffo not the media. It wont even burn normal CD-R's onto sony media that I've used thousands of times before. When burning these audio CD's let alone DVD's it cocks up. When the burn is complete it shows in my computer on the disc drive icon as an audio cd but the size is 0mb and it will not play in the laptop or a stereo but when you look at the underside of the cd next to a blank cd-r you can see something has been burned because of the colours of the dye but the disc is empty, im really struggling. I havent updated any drivers incase it reverts both drives to a state where I cannot backup my 360 discs... does anyone have any ideas?
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