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switching motherboard on a dell
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19. May 2008 @ 15:03 |
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Cheap PSUs catch fire, and it's not that rare either. Suffice to say if they do go up in smoke or flames your hardware is unlikely to survive intact. It happened to me in 2005, I was lucky, all I lost was a stick of RAM, floppy drive, hard drive and the lights on the front of my case, but losing 180GB of data was irritating to say the least.
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varnull
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19. May 2008 @ 15:05 |
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Dual psu case?? WTF.. just stick it behind or on the floor or something.
An AT psu self powered with it's own mains switch costs nothing.. see your local pc scrap man. It's only powering drives.. and fans and maybe some lights. Spray it black and have it on the top even.
It as one extra advantage... you can start it up before booting the rest and because the drives are already spun up everything boots slightly faster.
Hi Sam.. I have a collection of so called good quality and cheap psu's with an assortment of burnouts and holes in them.. One is in about 10 bits held together with the remains of the smoother cappys ;)
That was a top price 650 watt thing as well.
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19. May 2008 @ 15:08 |
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Heh, a real professional job that'd look!
Doing that does have those advantages, but for the reasons I posted, I wouldn't do it using any old unit, not by a long way. Besides, even with eight hard drives, a 9800GTX and an overclocked Quad core CPU, a high end PC isn't going to use more than 450W or so, so it's not like you'll struggle to find a PSU that will keep up.
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19. May 2008 @ 15:34 |
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hehehe.. I don't care about looks.. It's what it does that matters to me. I will use just about any old AT psu for running drives.. in a drive bay I currently have 16 running spinning 64 drives for the cluster, and powering the rest of the assorted switches, the line printer and network hardware.
When I started computers were an assortment of cabinets with various patch bays and cables joining them together.
They got smaller, but even now my hardware tends to follow those same rules.
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19. May 2008 @ 15:36 |
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Each to their own - I have my hard disks in an entirely separate file server PC, so I'm not really one to talk.
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19. May 2008 @ 16:38 |
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if recomending quality = fanboy then i an a kign of the fanboys.
please do me a favour and check the reviews. stability shoudl be the first and foremost when looking at PSUs when OCing. youd be mad to look at anything else when OCing. if your PSU cant give the juice where you need it when you up the power requirements by OCing, then you might aswell forget about OCing. why are corsairs recomended? SILENCE???
not foremost. firstly their stability is second to none, that why. now we have a new king, the modu 82+, (even if jsut by a slight minimal 0.00000001% advantage. THATS why im recomending them. check before they came out, i only recomended the corsair. hell even now i recomend it for people working towards a lower budget. but for the best, look towards the enermax modu 82+
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19. May 2008 @ 16:41 |
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Corsairs are recommended because I paid 80 quid for an HX 620W. The Modu82+ 625W units are over 100, and not by a very small amount. You're ending up with the same sort of product, just a more expensive and slightly quieter version of it. To say that the difference in stability from an Enermax unit vs a Corsair unit makes a difference in overclocking is laughable. I'm not one to say skimp on a PSU, but using a proven Corsair unit is far from risky, and spending 30 quid just to have a PSU that gives an unnoticeably and almost immeasurably smoother output is ludicrous.
I've seen the reviews and read them at length, and the Enermax units are certainly impressive, but there's nothing in them that makes that extra 30 pounds worth spending. Why replace good with good?
Oh, and also, at full load the 12V rails on the Enermax drop to 11.90V versus 11.93 for the Corsairs. I make the Corsair more stable there. Efficiency? The Enermax works out 0.7% more efficient on average. At a 500W load level that means to offset the £30 cost difference in the PSU at the beginning your PC would have to be at full load for 9 years.
If the Enermaxes were the same price as the Corsairs, or heck even £10 more, I'd probably recommend them for being quieter at idle, but since that's their only advantage and they're so much dearer, no thanks.
The cheaper Enermax units are of course cheaper, but then so are the Corsairs, so the same applies. The VX 450W and Modu82+ 385W are similarly priced, now that's a deal worth picking up on, and indeed the latter has now taken the former's place as my 'PSU to get to quieten my server'. In the high powered arena though, Corsair are still the top player.
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19. May 2008 @ 17:16 |
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links?
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19. May 2008 @ 17:20 |
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19. May 2008 @ 17:22 |
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i meant for the psu testing but thanks :)
now to have agood read of that, and read of the other testers
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jprice
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23. May 2008 @ 15:04 |
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OK sorry for bringing this up again, but I know it was said that I should get the e6850 but what are my other options? my system info is on the first page in the log reply. thanks a ton!
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jprice
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23. May 2008 @ 15:08 |
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also is it an option to get the e7200 and just overclock it to work well so my graphics card doesnt bottleneck? or will overclocking it not work because i have a dell pc?
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23. May 2008 @ 15:12 |
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Probably not. You'd be better off sticking to an E6850.
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26. May 2008 @ 23:35 |
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MOTHERBOARD SWAP/UPGRADE for DELL
Dell power supply connectors are "proprietary"
or nonstandard. Do not connect the Dell PS to
a real motherboard. So...a new P/S may be needed.
Based upon experience it is worth spending $100.
for a good quality, high efficency P/S (> 80 %),
with reserve power.
Upgrading mobo, CPU, and RAM can be done
for less than $200. from newegg.com
It may be possible with XP to keep the OEM license
if you do not change the drives.
_install and boot to the Dell HDD loading
and reactivate. If this donot work
_clean load the XP, drivers, etc and activate changing
back to the original key and HDD Volume Serial/Vol ID
and reactivate by telephone. The MS rep wants an explanation
of what was changed, and now that it is not a Dell
"what do you call this"....what the Belarc Advisor calls it works
...like the mobo Mod and chipset ID.
Call MS toll-free licenses to check their current policy
on this....they sometimes arbitrarily restrict upgrades.
If you must buy another XP license consider
going to 64-bit XP Pro and AMD AM2.
Good luck with this.
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27. May 2008 @ 08:18 |
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Indeed, a new case and power supply are always required if changing the motherboard on a Dell.
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jprice
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29. May 2008 @ 22:19 |
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OK I just got my e6850 and am trying to replace the old cpu. The problem is when i put it in it makes a beeping noise and nothing comes up on the screen..... any suggestions?
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30. May 2008 @ 06:16 |
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try a bios update. and did you re-use the old heat sink? if so did you apply new thermal pastd? also did you plug in the 4/8 pin cable next to the cpu socket?
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9. June 2008 @ 00:31 |
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9. June 2008 @ 07:59 |
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very good choices. just wait till 25th june, as both ati and nvidia will have their cards out. and if your going down the nvidia route go for xfx
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9. June 2008 @ 11:52 |
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Indeed, solid choices - but stick to XFX or BFG with graphics cards. I'm agreed on waiting for the GTX200 series cards.
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jprice
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9. June 2008 @ 12:18 |
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Ok i can do that, but You know how the GX2 is 2 9800's in 1, wouldnt that be better than a newer single card?
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9. June 2008 @ 13:41 |
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the GTX280 will be better by about 30%
and the 4870x2 is meant to be better then the GTX280 (by about 5-10%) (it is in 3dmark) but if game dont suport crysis properly (a handful inc crysis) then it wont be.
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9. June 2008 @ 13:55 |
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You mean crossfire, not crysis right? lol
Personally, i'd stick with a single GTX200 card because it'll work nicer, and be far easier to use.
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9. June 2008 @ 13:59 |
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lol yeah
typo
imo imma be goign with a 4850x2.
with a 4850 being as good as an ultra at £130. its a bargin.
i cant stand nvidia drivers. and i dont want a £450 card, giving me bsods, or only 2-3 driver updates a year
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9. June 2008 @ 14:03 |
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They're making a 4850X2 and a 4870X2? Seems unusual...
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