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22. April 2008 @ 16:06 |
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Intel Cuts Core 2 Quad Processor Price in Half, and other processors by as much as 30 percent.
In all, Intel reduced the price of fourteen processors, ranging from the mainstream desktop to its Xeon line for servers. The company also introduced several new models.
The most noteworthy reduction, however, was the Q6700, now priced at $266, down from $530. Intel also slashed the price of the corresponding Xeon processor, the X3230, in half as well, to $266 as well. Both chips run at 2.66 GHz, and include an 8 Mbyte cache. The company also launched the Core 2 Duo E8300 (6M Cache, 2.83 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB) at $163, and the Core 2 Duo Processor E7200 (3M Cache, 2.53 GHz, 1066 MHz FSB) at $133.
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22. April 2008 @ 16:06 |
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so how long before they revise the site again and raise the max v for the 45nm? a year?
i dont think i will go much above 1.4 for 24/7 clocks but i may for the odd bench run :D
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22. April 2008 @ 19:02 |
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Hey GM, the price dropped 10 dollars on the P5E. It's 160 now with free Shipping.
I'll keep everyone updated. Eventually they will realize people aren't buying enough and have another firesale.
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22. April 2008 @ 19:28 |
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the spec max voltage for my E3110 Xeon wolfdale is less than it's E8400 counterpart. max recommended voltage for my E3110 is 1.225 where the E8400 is 1.3625. my E3110 is currently running at 4.0ghz with vcore of 1.33v both OCCT and orthos stable.
I have read of ppl in forums taking both versions up to 1.4v+ with adequate cooling without any dire effects. intel may have up'ed the max voltage recommendation for the E3110 as well but I don't know for sure.
mine is rock solid at 4.0ghz. absolutely no BSOD's, reboots, or freezing.
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22. April 2008 @ 19:55 |
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Mort81,
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the spec max voltage for my E3110 Xeon wolfdale is less than it's E8400 counterpart. max recommended voltage for my E3110 is 1.225 where the E8400 is 1.3625. my E3110 is currently running at 4.0ghz with vcore of 1.33v both OCCT and orthos stable.
I have read of ppl in forums taking both versions up to 1.4v+ with adequate cooling without any dire effects. intel may have up'ed the max voltage recommendation for the E3110 as well but I don't know for sure.
I just got off the phone with Intel and after talking to a tech that actually knew what he was talking about, he said that 1.35v is safe for the 3110 and 1.5v for the other Wolfdales. Same thing with the E6750, don't go over 1.5v and you should have no problems He stressed that if you push the Xeon's voltage too high, it will develop problems that can't be fixed! ie:Electro Migration, as the electronic pathways will break down and ruin the processor!
Congrats on the new build, and may your MIPS be high! LOL!!
Best Regards,
Russ
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22. April 2008 @ 20:01 |
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1.5V eh? Seems surprising given the early number of issues. I'll wait and see how things pan out. The Q9450 HAS come back in stock in the UK, so the stock control problems look to be slowly settling down, but since it'll be at least late summer before I can upgrade again, I'm in no rush.
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22. April 2008 @ 20:10 |
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sammorris,
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1.5V eh? Seems surprising given the early number of issues. I'll wait and see how things pan out. The Q9450 HAS come back in stock in the UK, so the stock control problems look to be slowly settling down, but since it'll be at least late summer before I can upgrade again, I'm in no rush.
More than likely it's just the newer ones that can take 1.5v. The E6750 would run at 1.5v right from the begining, or mine would be toast by now! LOL!! There were documented problems with the early E8300/E8400 with Electro Migration that were caused by overvolting but Intel has obviously cured that or they wouldn't have raised the limits.
Best Regards,
Russ
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22. April 2008 @ 20:12 |
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Ah, so they were raised. That's confidence inspiring. :)
Is this also true of the Quads?
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22. April 2008 @ 21:31 |
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sammorris,
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Is this also true of the Quads?
The Kentsfield's are all 1.50v, while the Yorkfield's are 1.3625v!
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Russ
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22. April 2008 @ 21:33 |
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So no then... That's a shame.
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22. April 2008 @ 22:32 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
I just got off the phone with Intel and after talking to a tech that actually knew what he was talking about, he said that 1.35v is safe for the 3110 and 1.5v for the other Wolfdales....
i find that very strange, why would he say that the duos can take upto 1.5v when the xeons from the same range can only handle 1.35v. surely with the xeons being from the top bins they should handle the same if not more than the lowwer binned duos.
hey, he knows what he talking about. you sure he wasnt just a rep trying to sell more chips?
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22. April 2008 @ 23:12 |
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marsey99,
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i find that very strange, why would he say that the duos can take upto 1.5v when the xeons from the same range can only handle 1.35v. surely with the xeons being from the top bins they should handle the same if not more than the lowwer binned duos.
If it was exactly the same chip, I would agree, but some of the additional functions of the Xeon are better and larger file processing for the whole network, which may well generate more heat. The server chips are designed for 24/7/365, and are usually forgotten until something goes wrong with the system. Usually the ventilation where a lot of people keep their servers is less than ideal, and Intel wants them to live for a long time! It doesn't affect users like us because not that many people have their own server, and all the other instruction sets are the same! LOL!! BTW, Not all of the socket 775 Xeons are good for regular PC use and are only for servers, so read carefully before buying!
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Russ
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23. April 2008 @ 04:48 |
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sam, you got links to them? (the Q9450)
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23. April 2008 @ 05:34 |
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23. April 2008 @ 05:55 |
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See, I was on the right track, or a good one at least. I run one E6750 to 1.480 daily as 485x8 w/ a 1.632 PLL for almost 1 year (10 months) and a 2nd one 1 month later at 1.36v as 500x7 w/ PLL of 1.612v and this became my regular 4GHz daily on 500x8 in 5:6 DDR1200 w/ PLL of 1.632v @ 1.57v since October '08 They were clearly early batches and marked 1.35v on box. But like I said back then, this is an overclocking site, we overclock and overvolt at our risk. These arn't servers and not gonna be in service a year from now (not for me, thats for sure). My Q6600 is also doing daily 480x8 @ 1.488v and this is over a year old, but only 11 months as is. My P5K Deluxe was the 1st one to take it to the limit back in May.
Us AMD guys know what I'm talking about. You say 1.3, we go 1.5. I got 1.55v on my x2 6400+ BE right now (6 months). It handles 1.6v for testing. And how about them 90nm X38 OC'rs pumping 1.6v daily into a 1.35v chipset. Not me, mine only needs 1.52 max for 500x8 on 5:6 divider.
I'm waiting on a 65nm X48 now that I'm loving DDR3 and prices are dropping. DDR3-1800 to 2050MHz is sweet on 500x8 @ 1:2. Only my Gigabyte is set up on DDR3 for now so I shell see how it does. Cant wait to move it to ASUS Rampage Formula or DFI UT X48 (if they offer a DDR3 version yet).
Who here is overclocking new OCZ Flex II as 2x 2g kit in PC2-9200 to over 1200MHz? Or any like RAM to same speeds?
New RAMPAGE FORMULA guys (or P5E), hit me up if you need input on getting the most out of your new rig. You're gonna love this mobo.
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23. April 2008 @ 07:58 |
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NuckNFuts,
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But like I said back then, this is an overclocking site, we overclock and overvolt at our risk. These arn't servers and not gonna be in service a year from now (not for me, thats for sure).
I hear what you are saying, and I agree to a point. We all know the risks involved, and some of us are willing to take that chance, but not many of us have pockets as deep as yours, so we have to exercise a bit more caution. The problems of Electro Migration with the E8xxx chips are well documented, and apparently Intel has done something about it, as they've raised the max voltage from 1.35v to 1.50v. I don't think I would go to 1.50v with an older ones! I know a lot of us will still have at least partly what we just built a year from now, like me! All I'm doing now is upgrading certain things. That was my original plan when I bought it! I'm upgrading the memory in a few days to some G.Skill 1066 ram ( I canceled the Dominators), and my next project will either be a Q6700 Quad or a better video card. I won't need to buy anything else to get that done, so I'll be good to go for at least another year, anyway! You can never tell though. Something new and revolutionary may come out tomorrow, at the right price1 LOL!!
BTW, did you see the link I posted for those enzotech forged copper Mosfet coolers earlier today? Same basic idea as the ones you got, only they are small enough to go right on each individual Mosfet chip and no cutting. The base is 6.5x6.5mm, so fitting them in is no problem! I'll see how the Enzo Tech NB cooler http://www.enzotechnology.com/cnb_r1.htm I just ordered today works out first. I'm going to use the Antec 40x40x20mm 2200 rpm 6.5 cfm fan I have on it now, as it comes with a 40mm fan mount. I just hope it works better than the stock heatsink with the same fan on the stock heat sink! I may just go ahead and order a set of the Mosfet coolers anyway. hard to go wrong for $10 for a set of 10, complete with thermal tape to mount them. I'll keep you posted on how well that NB cooler works out.
Best Regards,
Russ
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23. April 2008 @ 10:23 |
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i have seen some of those mosfet sinks in a build log, i think it was oc.n but not 100%, he had sprayed them black and refinished the base and they looked sick.
so is the stock nb hs on the ds3r as good as it looks? it was one of the first things i thought about when i saw the board, hhhmmm looks alot like the one i took off my p5nesli. guess il just move this noctua over to it if it ever turns up.
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23. April 2008 @ 11:54 |
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My E8400 i just got about a month ago that intel replaced. is it safe to say it can handle the 1.5v?
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23. April 2008 @ 12:05 |
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As a precautionary measure Rob, I'd see how far you can get it at stock voltage and let it settle there for a while. Whilst your at it, we'll try and do some research to find the production date when they certified them being safe at the higher voltage. I'm sure you'll agree, having a working system stable at stock speeds is our current priority!
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23. April 2008 @ 13:40 |
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no where on the intel site does it say give your 45nm chip more than 1.3625v.
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23. April 2008 @ 13:45 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
BTW, did you see the link I posted for those enzotech forged copper Mosfet coolers earlier today? Same basic idea as the ones you got, only they are small enough to go right on each individual Mosfet chip and no cutting. The base is 6.5x6.5mm, so fitting them in is no problem! I'll see how the Enzo Tech NB cooler http://www.enzotechnology.com/cnb_r1.htm I just ordered today works out first.
Best Regards,
Russ
Yes I saw, But I got the big ones for look, and only have to cut a few, and most mobos can take the 14mm in nice even sets + I use them all over as in VGA and such. Besides, for ones on the Zalman, there'll be cutting with either in height. You will like that NB cooler. I got it a yr back but w/o fan (not offered then), I just put my own 40x10mm (clears TR 120 on most !975x. It doesnt quite mount as is on X38, but easy to mod, just like for P35. Can you get that special fan base sepperately? Looks like it just has round sleave to rest inside rods. These really absorbs the heat away from the mobo, so for those whoe only get MB temp (not actual NB), you will see a good drop too.
That Noctua NB cooler is something else. I used it on P35 and wow, practically a small CPU cooler if using fan. Best for X38 but I am moving mine to W/C and it doesnt clear the TR RAM and GPU stuff w/ Ultra 120 aboard. Too bad, I love that cooler.
Do keep us osted on them dates. I know m8's who got new GO SLACR Q6600 and getting as good as my early batch again. They fixed something oh right.
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marsey99,
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no where on the intel site does it say give your 45nm chip more than 1.3625v.
You are 100% correct. Too many numbers beginning with E! LOL!! The E8XXX are all 1.3625v. The Xeon counterparts are all 1.225v!
Sorry!
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Marsey, it doesn't say 1.5v on Intel's website. I think that's what they told someone here on the phone.
That was for the E6550, E6750 and E6850. The Wolfdales are all 1.3625v while their Xeon counterparts are all 1.225v. Sorry bout that! LOL!!
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Russ
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23. April 2008 @ 16:39 |
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So they didn't increase the max voltage, I did wonder...
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23. April 2008 @ 16:54 |
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sammorris,
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So they didn't increase the max voltage, I did wonder...
Sorry Sam. I had about 25 windows open at the time and I was cross checking voltage specs. I just totally blew it! LOL!! It would be nice if Intel would make a semblance of sense with their CPU numbering scheme. It would make things a lot easier to keep track of! LOL!!
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My E8400 i just got about a month ago that intel replaced. is it safe to say it can handle the 1.5v?
It's your choice, but I wouldn't go a hair over 1.35v myself with a Wolfdale! Too many documented problems that people have had! Intel might frown on replacing another CPU!
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Russ
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