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2. May 2008 @ 23:00 |
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Yeah I am a fan of nVidia chipsets, mostly for the reason that I am a gamer and that means SLI is the defacto dual video card setup. But I also think that,albeit some bugs, they continue to out inovate the competition.
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2. May 2008 @ 23:07 |
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Unless you have a crap load of money, SLI is kinda useless. Go for a majority of gamers, they shouldn't have to put up with Nvidia chipsets. From what I've seen Nvidia chipsets aren't as good as the Intel ones for performance purposes.
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2. May 2008 @ 23:23 |
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2. May 2008 @ 23:35 |
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Nope, same company different branding. The kingwin is cheaper because of different packaging, but the product is the same(not sure about the fan, that might be different too). Anyway it's the same thing, but not quite a ripoff.
You also have to consider that you don't have to Lap this and you have to Lap the TRUE. So for 30 dollars and coming close to the performance of TRUE(55 dollars without a fan) it's pretty damn good.
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3. May 2008 @ 00:23 |
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abuzar,
that is a good looking hsf and at a darn good price too. btw where did you get your info obout how it compares to the TRUE.
FYI, the TRUE does not have to be lapped but lapping will improve it's performance 4-6c on average. lapping will improve any heatsinks performance but is not a must. I RMA'ed my TRUE because it had a pit in the cpu mating surface (defect). I decided since I had to remove it anyway, I might as well have one that was lapped. the retailer I ordered it from didn't lap them so I ordered a lapped one from a different retailer that did. I'll more than likely just get a replacement instead of a credit for the one I RMA'ed since it was more than 30 days old.
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3. May 2008 @ 01:15 |
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Yeah you don't have to Lap it but the base is Concave on the TRUE. On the performance, it's just what I've read on other forums with people who have owned both. Also I saw a review on Frosty Tech(I think) that put the Xigmatech better performing than the TRUE. Of course the fan was a little slower on the TRUE, so I'm assuming with the same fans the TRUE would outperform it a little bit, but not by much.
EDIT: Also reference this:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179992
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3. May 2008 @ 03:19 |
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Mort81,
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that is a good looking hsf and at a darn good price too. btw where did you get your info obout how it compares to the TRUE.
I agree except for the base. I can't tell if it's plated or aluminum. If it's plated copper, then why plate it? You would get better heat transfer with just plain copper. The cooler, while it seem to be decent, is just a more inexpensive way to make a 3 heatpipe cooler, and nothing more. The down side is that it would be even better if it had a base. more like the AF7, or at least some sort of bond for the top of the base. Lots of air space in those slots! The fan is also a 3 bladed design, which usually are noisy and inefficient, hence the high dBA ratings. 3 blade designs tend to have more balance problems than 7 and 9 blade designs and tend to vibrate a bit more because of that. Still. it seems to do a pretty good job My educated guess is that it won't do as well at lower speeds, so you will have to put up with a lot of noise. We'll see as soon as someone buys and installs one. It's funny how the performance in tests like Anandtech and Tom's do, doesn't always work so well in real life, especially when the tests are run at 74F like one of many I looked at today. Up that room temp to a realistic 78 to 80F or so and the performance might well not be there! Just my thoughts!
Thought for the day! There are only 3 kinds of people in the world; those that can count and those that can't! LOL!!
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3. May 2008 @ 06:34 |
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Russ, the base doesn't matter because the copper heatpipes directly touch the IHS.
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3. May 2008 @ 07:11 |
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abuzar1,
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Russ, the base doesn't matter because the copper heatpipes directly touch the IHS.
I really hate to disagree, but yes it does. You only have those 3 copper strips and the upper part to remove heat. All those tiny air gaps between the two matter as air is not a very good conductor of heat. That's why we lap ours so the surface is smooth and flat. That's why Mort's Thermalright didn't cool as well as it should and it only had a tiny imperfection in the surface! That's why he returned it and bought a lapped one! I would for sure use Creamique or MX-2 when installing it as they would better fill those tiny gaps. Especially the Ceramique as it's on the thick side and should squeeze in there nicely! I wouldn't use AS5 though as it doesn't spread out as well. buy one, try it and if it's too noisy, or doesn't cool that well with your OC, you can always sell it! You seem to be good at that! LOL!!
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Russ
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3. May 2008 @ 09:26 |
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That doesn't look that good at all but reviews never lie!
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3. May 2008 @ 10:51 |
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that xigamte is the new f7p, but it has already been beat by ocz. its the same basic desgin but the fins have dimples pressed into them which increases the surface area and its cooling ability.
the direct heat pipe contact is the future of air cooling im sure as it does yeild very good results, as for the gaps, well im sure it would be better if it was a solid flat base for contact but at the same time it doesnt seem to be needed.
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those looking at the nvidia chipset want to look at xfx, their new deal with them means they now seem to be getting the choice ic.
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3. May 2008 @ 12:55 |
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Yeah I really am thinking about it. You just never know, I might end up selling My CPU, cooler, and Motherboard and buy this cooler, a new Q6600, and a P5E.
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3. May 2008 @ 13:26 |
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why you selling your old Q6600?
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3. May 2008 @ 13:42 |
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abuzar1,
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Yeah I really am thinking about it. You just never know, I might end up selling My CPU, cooler, and Motherboard and buy this cooler, a new Q6600, and a P5E.
I tend to stay with what I find works! I've been using the Arctics for about a little over 2 years. Replaced the Zalman 9500 with it. Better cooler and much quieter! At least in my last 2 cases! What CPU you have now. I can't keep up with all the changes you make. LOL!! Anyway, if you do get one of those Kingwins, let us all know how good it is.
Best Regards,
Russ
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3. May 2008 @ 13:44 |
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I have a Q6600 and it doesn't overclock that well. I pulled it down to 3.2 because at 1.5v that's all it will be stable it. Some guy is interested in my CPU and motherboard. Hopefully I can sell the Freezer 7 Pro to him too.
God, this is like an unending cycle.
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3. May 2008 @ 14:03 |
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The good old ebay trick... If it doesn't overclock, ebay it!
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3. May 2008 @ 14:09 |
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Yeah pretty much.
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3. May 2008 @ 14:14 |
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yeah, i dont get why ebay sells non OCed item for higher prices
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3. May 2008 @ 14:16 |
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abuzar1,
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God, this is like an unending cycle.
I know what you mean. Imagine what it was like 18-19 years ago when prices were outrageous. $400 to $500 for a 1024x768 non-interlaced monitor! LOL!! memory got as high as $100 per MB in the early 90s! And it was much slower than today.
Best Regards,
Russ
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3. May 2008 @ 14:26 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
abuzar1,
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God, this is like an unending cycle.
I know what you mean. Imagine what it was like 18-19 years ago when prices were outrageous. $400 to $500 for a 1024x768 non-interlaced monitor! LOL!! memory got as high as $100 per MB in the early 90s! And it was much slower than today.
Best Regards,
Russ
hell last year you could get PC6400 2X1GB for about £150, now for £30!
time move, technology moves, newer tech is expensive, craper tech get cheaper....rinse and repeat
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3. May 2008 @ 17:42 |
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I should know - i've bought it at both prices!
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3. May 2008 @ 17:47 |
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sammorris,
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I should know - i've bought it at both prices!
Memory must be cheaper this side of the pond. I just paid $94 with a $40 MIR for my 1066 2x1GB Corsair XMS2 Dominators!
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Russ
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3. May 2008 @ 17:49 |
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It's only £45 here, so about $90...
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3. May 2008 @ 17:53 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
It's only £45 here, so about $90...
infact, thats with VAT, we are cheaper w.o
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3. May 2008 @ 18:07 |
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I look at something as it costs to get to my hot little hands!! We have taxes as well as all other countries out there. ;) I don't like MIR but hey they save you money if you get them. The only ones that I've missed are the ones that I haven't sent in on time. I've only done that twice. The last was with OCZ Memory. lol. I thought that I had three (3) weeks but it was 12 days..... Misread the directions. Well pooh!! lol
I've compared the prices from the US and the UK!! AND to my surprise they are normally pretty close BUT your VAT does get in the way and I don't think that I've ever seen and MIR from the UK sites. I'm sure there may be some but I haven't seen it. ;)
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