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ddp
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6. June 2005 @ 11:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what does the motherboard manual say as i think it is in same color sockets
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6. June 2005 @ 20:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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would i put both the ram in the same colored DIMM, or each one in a different colored DIMM?
same color (side by side). The reason why there is two colors is because there is 4 slots. If you put two dimms in you'll be in dual channel ... if you add 1 more dimm, it will disable dual channel since your have 3 sticks installed.

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7. June 2005 @ 09:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks for the help guys

on my Abit AN8 Mobo, I am still undecided on where to connect the fans.

I am having trouble deciding which fan to connect to SYSFAN1, AUXFAN1, and NBFAN1.

now a next quesrion
when connecting the IEEE, there are two ways you can connect, on is by header, and the other is one by one on to the mother board. Which one should I use?

Thank You
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7. June 2005 @ 12:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
for the ieee, it depends on how the cable is made with a single connector or individual single pin connectors. the system & aux fan connectors are for case fans for front & back. don't know what nb stands for unless for backcase fan.
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7. June 2005 @ 15:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Any issues with the WD JD?
No issues yet. I have an old WD 20 and it's still going strong after 5 years. I like them.

For the dual channel thing I have two colors but they are staggered. Blue, black, blue, black. The manual says to use the same color for dual channel. Mine just puts some space in between.

Later,
Joe

AMD64 3000+ 1.8 Winchester 939 @ 2250 MHz
ASUS A8N-SLI NVIDIA NFORCE4 MOBO
ATI RADEON X700 PRO
1 GIG (2x512) DDR400 CORSAIR
HD - WESTERN DIGITAL 250 GB SATA
ASPIRE XNAVIGATOR 450W TURBO CASE
LITEON DVD READER
NEC 3520A DVD RW
srmp777
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11. June 2005 @ 12:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi


Is there a way to control fan speed?
I am pretty happy with the cooling in my new computer that i have just built, but I would like my system fan to opreate a little faster.

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11. June 2005 @ 13:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
there are usually programs that come w/ your mb that let you monitor fan speed(if you have them connected to the mb risers). some will let you set speed.

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13. June 2005 @ 07:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You could also pick up a fan controller that mounts in an empty drive bay and use a dial to control all the fans in the box. Try Newegg.com to see if they have anything.

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Joe

AMD64 3000+ 1.8 Winchester 939 @ 2250 MHz
ASUS A8N-SLI NVIDIA NFORCE4 MOBO
ATI RADEON X700 PRO
1 GIG (2x512) DDR400 CORSAIR
HD - WESTERN DIGITAL 250 GB SATA
ASPIRE XNAVIGATOR 450W TURBO CASE
LITEON DVD READER
NEC 3520A DVD RW
adamryer
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19. June 2005 @ 09:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Building a new computer, have a question about cooling. Is it best to have the rear case fan blowing into the case or blowing air out of the case?

ASRock 890GX PRO 3, AMD Phenom II X2 555 BE, 8GB GSkill Sniper DDR3 1333,
Main HDD: WD Raptor 74GB 10,000rpm, Storage HDD: 1TB WD Caviar Black,
Lite-On iHAS124-04 --> LT Burner Max FW,
Samsung BX2331 23" LED Widescreen LCD,
Xbox 360 Premium 20GB --> Hitachi v0078fk --> LT+2.0
ddp
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19. June 2005 @ 09:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
front in, back out
merlin112
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19. June 2005 @ 13:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
adamryer,

Little tip for the NEC 3520A. It's a really slow reader. Go to cdfreaks.com and look for dee's firmware with riplock removed. I use version 1U8. Doubled the read speed. Works great for me.

Later,
Joe

AMD64 3000+ 1.8 Winchester 939 @ 2250 MHz
ASUS A8N-SLI NVIDIA NFORCE4 MOBO
ATI RADEON X700 PRO
1 GIG (2x512) DDR400 CORSAIR
HD - WESTERN DIGITAL 250 GB SATA
ASPIRE XNAVIGATOR 450W TURBO CASE
LITEON DVD READER
NEC 3520A DVD RW
adamryer
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24. June 2005 @ 10:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey thanks merlin112. and thanks ddp for the fan tip. Im building my first computer and things are going pretty well so far. Just needed some help on fan details because i really want my comp to run as cool as possible. I think altogether i will have 10 fans running!

ASRock 890GX PRO 3, AMD Phenom II X2 555 BE, 8GB GSkill Sniper DDR3 1333,
Main HDD: WD Raptor 74GB 10,000rpm, Storage HDD: 1TB WD Caviar Black,
Lite-On iHAS124-04 --> LT Burner Max FW,
Samsung BX2331 23" LED Widescreen LCD,
Xbox 360 Premium 20GB --> Hitachi v0078fk --> LT+2.0
ddp
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24. June 2005 @ 15:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i have 9 in mine
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27. June 2005 @ 16:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok I have been doin some research/planing and I am about ready to build. Im looking to spend about 800-1200 (LCD is gonna force me to the higher end) So let me know what you think.. and if you have any suggestions let me know!

I will be using this for a little bit of everything, definantly some gaming, and also a little photoshop type stuff.

MOBO:]
ASUS A8N-SLI Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard
$144
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813131524
I have heard there is trouble with the fans on this chipset.. should it be upgraded from the start?

CPU:
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Winchester Integrated into Chip FSB 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103502
$190
considered going to the 3500+ for $267 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103514
But the 3200+ seemd like a good way to save a lil money.

RAM:
CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145440
$79.99
Thinking of doubling this right off the back...

Video Card:
XFX PVT45GUDF3 Geforce 6800GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150091
$299 (with rebate if I get by tomorrow)

Case/PSU:
Im a little unsure here cause i see a lot of like $70case/psu combos.. so are the psu's in there no good? depending what response i may have to change this.
Rosewill TU-155 Black Steel/Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 400W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811147001
$52.99

Monitor:
DELL
UltraSharp 1704FPT 17-inch Flat Panel LCD
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?sku=320-395...
$247

Keyboard/mouse:
Logitech Cordless Desktop LX 700
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=21110...
$63
Why are bluetooth ones so much more expensive?

Then I want a dvd drive/burner but just a decent cheap enough one.. any suggestions here?

Do I need to upgrade the heatsink, add more fans, or use a RAM Heatsink???? What ones should I use?

A $10 black sony floppy, using the onboard sound, also have an older soundblaster card. Have a 160GB Seagate already as well.


Thanks in advance to anyone who actually takes the time to really look this over and tell me what you think and add some suggestions!
srmp777
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28. June 2005 @ 03:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I recommend getting the XMS memory from Corsair.

As for a DVD burner, you can try Emprex, it is around 30- 40 dollars cheaper than the other high name brands.
merlin112
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3. July 2005 @ 07:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Forumcrew,

I like the A8N-SLI mobo. Great oc'ing features. The value select is perfectly fine with me for now. It might be the reason why I can't get the processor over 2.25 gig, but I haven't really spent the time with it. Plus it's fast enough for now. The 3200 would have been a better choice for me cause it has a multiplier of 10 where mine is 9. My psu is holding up to the stress of the oc and it came with the case. If you want to be sure, get another to be safe. For the dvd drive, the NEC 3520a is a great burner. You just have to go to cdfreaks and get the hacked firmware for faster read speeds. It was only $50. I got most everything from Newegg.com. No fan or heatsink upgrades here, and the 3000+ stays around 40ish while gaming or video processing. My case has 6 fans. Get some Arctic Silver paste and scrape the existing stuff off the processor before you put it together. That's one thing I wish I would've done. Don't know anything about the video card you listed, but mine works great and I got it at Circuit City for $170.

Good luck,
Joe

AMD64 3000+ 1.8 Winchester 939 @ 2250 MHz
ASUS A8N-SLI NVIDIA NFORCE4 MOBO
ATI RADEON X700 PRO
1 GIG (2x512) DDR400 CORSAIR
HD - WESTERN DIGITAL 250 GB SATA
ASPIRE XNAVIGATOR 450W TURBO CASE
LITEON DVD READER
NEC 3520A DVD RW
mr_magnon
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4. July 2005 @ 19:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Im looking to build a pc by the end of the summer and I have did some research and have to decide to go athlon 64 dont know which one though
if someone could give me some help on what to buy for my new pc it would be greatly appreciated. My budget is somewhere around 1700$ usd. will be mostly used for gaming. also where to buy online and ships to canada
ddp
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4. July 2005 @ 19:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
where in canada are you??
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5. July 2005 @ 06:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
kelowna bc
ddp
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5. July 2005 @ 07:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
try tigerdirect.ca. if gaming than get the amd socket 939 cpu & board with pci/e video slot not agp
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5. July 2005 @ 07:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If your RAM question didn't get answered... Put a matching pair in DIMM slot 1 and DIMM slot 3. The if you have more put the next matching pair in DIMM slot 2 and DIMM slot 4. Rather than mess with colors just go by the slot names and manual.

Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.

Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.

Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K

My advice: Wait for PS3.
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5. July 2005 @ 19:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanx ddp
I was also wondering if i should get a 6800 gt or ultra is the gt better if i oc it or what. also what type of ram as in brand and type. i know pc3200 but thats about it
ddp
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5. July 2005 @ 20:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what are the specs & prices on both cards? stay away from infineon ram as had problems with them in the past
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Asus A8N-SLI premium.... PC3200? Sigh... I need DDR2 800 ECC support before my Athlon 64 4800+ X2 Dual core and twin 7800 GTX OC cards touch down.

Oh yeah, I forgot, Koolance liquid cooling, then OC the hell out of everything. But still we needs DDR2 800 on a board like this.

Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.

Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.

Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K

My advice: Wait for PS3.

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