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Alien13
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15. August 2005 @ 22:20 |
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Ok thanks, also on the back of them where the fan is on my old one it has a port for the power and for the screen i think do all of them have 2 ports?
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ddp
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16. August 2005 @ 07:09 |
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the 2 ports tended to be for the old at computers, can't remember seeing that on atx unless was on the early atx computers like the p2's.
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Alien13
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16. August 2005 @ 14:09 |
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Oh, yeah i thought it was for old comps, the one i want to do up has the two port thing. What i would like to know is would it be cheaper to buy a whole comp, or rebuild it?
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ddp
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16. August 2005 @ 15:55 |
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depends on how far into rebuilding you are going. price the parts individually to see what the total is compared to a new computer of same specs.
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Alien13
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16. August 2005 @ 22:08 |
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Well since i cant just do the mobo and cpu , ill have to get a
mobo,
cpu,
psu,
video card,
ram,
a new hard drive 2 10GB aint enough,
Ive already got the floppy/cd drives and moniter.
Is there any thing else?
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Alien13
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16. August 2005 @ 23:19 |
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ddp
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17. August 2005 @ 08:52 |
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Alien13
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17. August 2005 @ 14:29 |
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ddp
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17. August 2005 @ 15:15 |
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so you are looking at getting a 24 pin 420watt plus psu
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17. August 2005 @ 20:59 |
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First, to the moderators, im sorry for multiposting, i didnt notice the sticky at the top of the page:(
OK, im looking into building my first PC, and I have looked into a few of the parts. I would like advice on what I am missing and if all these parts are compatible, thanks in advance,
Case: Antec Life Style SONATA Piano Black Computer Case - Retail
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 1GHz FSB 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor - Retail
Motherboard: MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
RAM: 2x512 Crucial
HDD: A 120 GB, either Western Digital or Maxtor
DVD+RW: Already own a Sony DRU-510a which has NEVER let me down so I intend to keep it.
Video Card: Probably an ATI 9800 Pro
Well thats it, if any one could help me with missing parts or compatibility problems, i would be very grateful. By the way, money is an issue but not that huge of a problem,
thanks in advance,
Andre
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Alien13
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17. August 2005 @ 22:10 |
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18. August 2005 @ 02:39 |
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@DVDBack23-That setup looks like it may work together. However I'm pretty sure that is a PCI express motherboard, but that card you chose is AGP....
AMD Athlon 64 FX-55, MSI K8N Neo4-F Motherboard, Creative Labs T5400 5.1 Surround Sound Speaks, Pioneer DVR-109 16X DVD Burner, MSI GeForce 8800 GTS PCIe GFX Card, 1 GB Value Ram.
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18. August 2005 @ 07:27 |
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I've found the maxtors are running pretty hot in mine (taken them out now and sold them ) had a couple of 120 gig sata's could almost boil a kettle on them wd would be better
i7 3770 12GB ram terrabyte sata drive 1 750Gb sata drive 285GTX graphics Sony dvdwriter same NZXT Nemesis case
Still playing Black Hawk Down why did I upgrade?
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18. August 2005 @ 16:09 |
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Ok thanks, as for replacing the 9800, how bout a comparable pci-express nvidia? Ive heard 6600 would work...
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18. August 2005 @ 16:20 |
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6600GT would go well with your board, the nearest ATi competion would be a X700 but overall the 6600GT is better ;)
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merlin112
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19. August 2005 @ 06:42 |
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I have an x-700pro and am very happy with it. Works great and I got it for $170.00 USD at Circuit City. Food for thought.
AMD64 3000+ 1.8 Winchester 939 @ 2250 MHz
ASUS A8N-SLI NVIDIA NFORCE4 MOBO
ATI RADEON X700 PRO
1 GIG (2x512) DDR400 CORSAIR
HD - WESTERN DIGITAL 250 GB SATA
ASPIRE XNAVIGATOR 450W TURBO CASE
LITEON DVD READER
NEC 3520A DVD RW
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merlin112
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19. August 2005 @ 06:53 |
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Alien13,
ddp asked if you are going to get a 24 pin power supply. For mine I am using the psu that came with the case with a 24 to 20 pin adapter that costed 7 bucks. For your ram question, get ddr400. I got value select, cheap but it limits my overclocking ability. Figure out where you want it to be and select your memory accordingly. I am building a copy of my pc for someone who wouldn't even know what oc'ing is unless I told him. Value select will be fine, especially at $80.00 USD.
By the way, it's been a while. I think it's time you build that rocket ship you've been researching for so long. Would you agree? Shoot some more questions if you like though.
Later,
Joe
AMD64 3000+ 1.8 Winchester 939 @ 2250 MHz
ASUS A8N-SLI NVIDIA NFORCE4 MOBO
ATI RADEON X700 PRO
1 GIG (2x512) DDR400 CORSAIR
HD - WESTERN DIGITAL 250 GB SATA
ASPIRE XNAVIGATOR 450W TURBO CASE
LITEON DVD READER
NEC 3520A DVD RW
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jonni3
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19. August 2005 @ 09:04 |
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Alien 13 your in Australia right, the 6600GT is $219.00 & the X700 is $186.00 .... here's an Australian price comparison site http://www.ausprices.com/ , it might come in handy ;)
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Alien13
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19. August 2005 @ 17:33 |
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Cool thanks for all the help guys :)
Yeah One of the harddrives is almost full (10GB) its got about 1.37GB left dont know whats filling it up tho. The other one (10GB) isnt that full its about 2/3 GB full.
How much did your pc cost Merlin?
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merlin112
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21. August 2005 @ 18:34 |
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That setup cost around $1000.00 USD. However, I just built a duplicate for a friend who liked it, and it came out to about $900. I guess prices will continue to go down.
AMD64 3000+ 1.8 Winchester 939 @ 2250 MHz
ASUS A8N-SLI NVIDIA NFORCE4 MOBO
ATI RADEON X700 PRO
1 GIG (2x512) DDR400 CORSAIR
HD - WESTERN DIGITAL 250 GB SATA
ASPIRE XNAVIGATOR 450W TURBO CASE
LITEON DVD READER
NEC 3520A DVD RW
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merlin112
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21. August 2005 @ 18:37 |
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By the way, I like your pictures. They're always changing. And you must post a LOT! I remember when we were both newbies! Any way, lol with the new pc.
AMD64 3000+ 1.8 Winchester 939 @ 2250 MHz
ASUS A8N-SLI NVIDIA NFORCE4 MOBO
ATI RADEON X700 PRO
1 GIG (2x512) DDR400 CORSAIR
HD - WESTERN DIGITAL 250 GB SATA
ASPIRE XNAVIGATOR 450W TURBO CASE
LITEON DVD READER
NEC 3520A DVD RW
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Alien13
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21. August 2005 @ 22:14 |
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hobo4430
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22. August 2005 @ 21:06 |
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you might look at a case by antec sure they are high dollar but I feel that the power supply is great, if you are looking for some high power then look at the extream edition from intel sure AMD is doing good and now that x 64 is out you can use that but remember that you gotta go get the drivers for 64 bit or it just wont do what you want , as for boards I really like the d915-pbl it is a good board with 800 fsb and lots of 1394 (fire wire) and usb ports it does work great and the price is about 114.00 put a gig of ram and use western digital 120 gig SATA hard drives and raid them you will do just fine as for the PCI-Express I like the 800 based on the ATI chip they do a great job at games now asus has a board so you can do SLI two of the fast pci express but they booth have to be the same kind and speed and yes you will see the diffrence
Ram Kingstone is really high price but it has a life time warranty but latrely I have been useing PATRIOT it to is life time and good latency youll be surprised as to what it will do and remember to use pairs or you will lose the 800 fsb and they have to be the same size and not ECC
as for optical drives I reccomend that a dual layer is a good choice as they have come down in price and the media is no longer in the 35$ range for three disk but for some great storage they will do fine at 8+ gigs as for floppy I dont use them any more but they are only 7 dollars. if you have a frys store in your town look at them for some really good prices and if not then go to www.outpost.com that is them. remember also to buy the board and cpu box or you wont get the 3 year warranty, you can go to http://www.intel.com and look for the boards and cpu's you wont see any prices but you will learn about the product and this I reccomend.
I hope this will help you some what I am a system builder in oregon and only use intel for the moment, but that does change every now and then, and yes do go to windows XP PRo it is a lot better, but remember to tweek it some that darn fade and error reporting is only a waste of time, and do get the up dates youll be glad you did and also use that antivirus
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merlin112
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23. August 2005 @ 18:10 |
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So, here's my humble opinion on the pre-built:
1. Weak psu (only 300 watts so no extras or oc'ing)
2. Only 512 Mb ram (double it)
3. No DVD burner (have to have it)
4. IDE hard drive (SATA is much quicker)
5. No OS (although if you build, you will still need to buy)
6. Worst of all... Celeron (don't do it)
Consider what you are getting and add up the remainder of what you want. You would be much better off getting a Dell. Or do what I always do, BUILD YOUR OWN MACHINE! To me there's no greater satisfaction than to build something that works and smokes any Intel machine for comperable money. Google "amd64 vs. intel extreme edition" and I think you will be suprised at what you find. What the hell, you've done this much research already. I found that the AMD64 3000+ beat the P4 EE 3.2 in most of the benchmarks I've seen, with the exception of a few, but they were neck and neck. And that was at stock speeds for both. Tell me how a chip can run at 1.8 and beat a 3.2 without being superior as far as computations per clock cycle. Then factor in the lower temp of the AMD64 and a nicely equipped ASUS board. I figured I couldn't go wrong, plus it was cheaper than Intel by about $300 USD.
Once again, this is only my opinion.
And for the last post above mine, PLEASE LEARN HOW TO USE PUNCTUATION. Reading that was painful. Good info however.
Questions, comments, please reply.
Later,
Joe
AMD64 3000+ 1.8 Winchester 939 @ 2250 MHz
ASUS A8N-SLI NVIDIA NFORCE4 MOBO
ATI RADEON X700 PRO
1 GIG (2x512) DDR400 CORSAIR
HD - WESTERN DIGITAL 250 GB SATA
ASPIRE XNAVIGATOR 450W TURBO CASE
LITEON DVD READER
NEC 3520A DVD RW
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ddp
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