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23. October 2006 @ 08:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Once again, thanks Sam...Yeah, I used System Restore and got it working and the BIOS are up to date...Bizarre.

More bizarre yet, after trying to install the software suite for my Logitech Orbit MP webcam, on reboot the computer continued to get to windows but reboot immediately...It just kept doing this.

I ended up having to go to system restore through Safe Mode as it would not start up normally...As it is, I haven't reinstalled the software for the webcam for obvious reason.

For 4 or 5 years, I may have used System Restore once and in 24 hrs I have done it twice...Question, is there something wrong that I need to fix or is this par for the course?...Thinking do I need to reinstall windows?
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if you get a lot of issues, maybe, But if just one or two, they happen, don't worry about it too much.



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23. October 2006 @ 13:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi could some one put together a good system for clear crisp graphics for gaming with no freezing and jerking for around £600

it would need to include intel core 2duo or amd athlon x2 a system for each proccessor would be very much appreciated. by the way it should be able to run vista with no problems.
thankyou all for any advice.

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@humza

you will be luckey with that budget.

if you want c2d you would need to up you budget, as the cpu is £130 a good mobo £130 and some ram £130, then a mid range graphics card £110. this leaves you with £100 to power it, cool it, house it, store all the data and load the data(plus a kboard, mouse, screen and the rest).

an am2 x2 rig would be slightly less but would offer alot less performance.
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Depends what you mean "running Vista with no problems" - with just word processing and multimedia playback that's easy, with gaming it's impossible.



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Any thoughts on this monitor? dont have the funds for what I want...Keep in mind I have to buy in pairs to replace my CRTs- Any thought welocme!!!
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...2323225&CatId=0

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23. October 2006 @ 23:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I dislike 1400x1050, it's an uncommon resolution, and is quite low for a 20" screen, they're usually 1600x1200, and I don't se why that one shouldn't be.
This would be better:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...1416&CatId=1410
Bear in mind, you could always get one, and keep one CRT until you have enough to buy the second LCD...



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24. October 2006 @ 01:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
marsey99 forget about the price then just make me a system that will be able to do all the stuff in my previous post im not to bothered about the motherboard but what i am bothered about is should it have onboard graphics or a seperate graphics card. at the moment i think 1GB RAM is plenty utill i get vista then i will go up to 2GB.
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24. October 2006 @ 01:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
humzaSM,
If your into games,a seperate graphics card is a must.



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24. October 2006 @ 04:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A system with a basic dedicated graphics card (Integrated won't support Vista properly) will be OK in Vista, but you're still not telling us what you need to do. Do you watch DVDsand word process or do you play games?



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24. October 2006 @ 05:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
humzaSM,
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hi could some one put together a good system for clear crisp graphics for gaming with no freezing and jerking for around £600
You need a seperate graphics card for this.

sam,
your the graphics card man,it's over to you!!!




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24. October 2006 @ 05:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK. Clear crisp gaming. In what?
X2 3800+ http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/94640 £118
A8N-SLI SE http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/101701 £57
Kingston 1GB http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/49296 £77
Casecom case http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/105810 £25
Hiper PSU http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/109552 £53
X1900XT 256MB http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/116149 £180
250GB Caviar http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/94403 £52
DVD Writer http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/115035 £21
That's a relatively ace system that'll cost you a mild £585+delivery.
I'm hoping I havent left anything important out!



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24. October 2006 @ 05:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Or for not much more,if you plan to overclock,
get this,you won't be sorry!!
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/92676

Read the reviews.



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£70 for the lanparty mobo thats almost giving them away. that makes me consider upgrading to a 939, £200 and it would get me a dual core rig.
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It would indeed. And they rock! :-)
to be fair though, the A8N-SLi SE is a pretty competent board, and unless he's a pro-overclocker like you, is the extra £12 worth it?
Even so, I surprised myself that it was possible to build a system like that for that sort of money. That's peanuts compared to a high end pre-built system, and that I would indeed class as high end.



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24. October 2006 @ 14:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
that i can do,

mobo - Abit AW9D Intel 975X - £132(will support kentsfields aswel) - 2nd down
http://www.advancetec.co.uk/acatalog/ABIT_775.html

cpu - e6300 - £128 - top one
http://www.advancetec.co.uk/acatalog/core_2_duo.html

ram - 1gb corsair ddr2 - £78 - 6th down
http://www.advancetec.co.uk/acatalog/Value_Select.html

gpu - 7600gt - £108 - 4th down
http://www.advancetec.co.uk/acatalog/Asus_nv_pcx.html

hdd - 250 GB Samsung SP2504C SpinPoint - £47 - 3rd down
http://www.advancetec.co.uk/acatalog/250GB.html

dvdrw - Pioneer DVR-111D - £23 - 25th down
http://www.advancetec.co.uk/acatalog/INTE_WRS.html

psu - Seasonic 500w S12-500 - £78 - 2nd down
http://www.advancetec.co.uk/acatalog/Seasonic.html

case - Antec Solo Quiet Mini Tower Case - £65 - 10th down(my current fave, this is realy up to you as you have to look at it all the time not me)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Antec_Cases.html

the rest is up to you, the screen speakers and kboard/mouse, you might also want a sound card if you want the highest quality sound, but this will fit the bill. the gpu is a mid range card and good value for money(with the dx10 cards around the corner you dont want to waste money here) and that is why i picked most of them not the best but good for the price and fits the bill(some of them i have myself).

this costs £659 inc vat (+ p+p). and no i dont work for advancetec but i have bought from them with out problems and they are as cheap as any-one else i can find in the uk. if you can find them cheaper elseware, get them there. all the things i picked are with future upgrades in mind, newwer cpu, more ram, newwer/dual gpu.

i think that about covers it.

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cheaky, cheaky.

your not allowed to put e-mail adresses in your posts
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24. October 2006 @ 16:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oy, sorry.
Well, its not a used email, so I dont care if it gets spammed.

Sorry. But still, it'd be really nice if someone could send an extra GMail invite for my friend.

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24. October 2006 @ 18:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
jpchipps, post edited & post in this forum the forum rule you broke.
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@jpchipps - what? - what on earth has gmail invites got to do with this thread. for gmail invites see here - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/229446

..but remember - no email addresses, and be more careful where you post stuff next time



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sammorris most of the time i use my pc for playing games, watching films and programming on the odd occasion i do a bit of picture edditing.

is this graphics card any good? http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx?Qui...ode=1&InMerch=1

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The 7900GS is ok, but it's below the 7900GT, which is below the X1900XT, which is the card I demonstrated. Any of those 3 would blow away the 7600 that marsey posted (and he's overbudget! :-)) And the 6300 is marginally faster than the 3800 (not very noticeable). Thing is, for outright processing power, Core 2 Duos are useful at the higher end (unless you're an extreme overclocker) but for most people, pound for pound, they perform the same for the price as X2s do. The E6300 is matched to a 4200+, which is the same price. That motherboard is also WAY over the top, and Seasonic PSUs are overkill cost-wise for a PC like that. The Hiper is cheaper, and more powerful, and probably no louder.



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the 7800gtx is also better than the 7900gs.

come on sam "the 6300 is marginally faster than the 3800 (not very noticeable)" not sure what to say to that realy....at stock speeds the e6300 is about 20% faster than the x2 3800, but if your going to overclock them, it (the 3800) should go higher and get closer to the e6300.

like i said at the bottom of the post it is all with the future in mind. how much power will a quad-core dx10 sysem use. the rumours iv read say the 128 pixle pipes in them are going to need 450/500watts, 135w for the kentfeild, throw in 2 drives and a couple of usb toys and that psu starts to look inadequate.

the 7600gt at med resolutions(1200 by 1000) can keep ut with higher end cards with all the details on high, now that is something you told me before i got mine, and one of the reasons i did, now with the latest batch of gpus just around the corner is it realy the right time to spend more than you need to? if i had put one of those mentioned in it would of took the cost well above £700.

if i was spending this amount of my money i would want an e6600 not an allendale, but hey i aint got the cash to spend at the min. if i was doing it on a budget i would go for a 939 rig with their prices being so competetive now.

the thing is sam hes asked for both and we have shown him what you can get for each.

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25. October 2006 @ 10:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
In most of the benches I saw, the 6300 was roughly on par with the 4200+, which is 10% faster, not a greatly noticeable difference. The 7600GT can keep up with the faster cards, but the X1900XT (256MB version) has come down a lot, and if you game you need as much power as you can get. Since that card fits in his budget, why not?



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