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thurman1
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19. June 2004 @ 16:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am building my first pc and just wanted some thoughts on how I've done selecting the parts. I am not a gamer, so I don't need ultra high end specs, but I do a lot of daytrading on my pc, so I need something stable and fast.

Asus P4c800e deluxe mobo $171
Intel 2.8ghz 800mhz fsb 1mb L2 cache $179
Mushkin 512MB DDR PC3200 RAM - $77/stick x 2
Hitachi 160GB 7200 RPM SATA HDD $99
Gigabyte Ati Radeon 9200 128mb 128 bit video card $68
Lite-On 52-32-52 CDRW $30
MGE CAG-M1-BK case with 400w power supply $55

How did I do? Any comments on any of these components would be appreciated. Have I gone overboard somewhere where I can save money? Have I taken the cheap route somewhere where I shouldn't?

THanks for your input.
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19. June 2004 @ 17:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
From your prices, I'm guessing you arent in Canada (or else you and I need to have a chat hehe). USD i presume? Some comments:

- You probably dont need the Deluxe model of the motherboard, the 'stock' P4P800 board (~$115USD) should be more than sufficient. http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p800/overview.htm
- Good call the processor, no need to get the ultra expensive one -- just make sure you grab the 1MB cache version
- If you really arent into games and such, go for the Radeon9200SE which is usually just over half the price of the regular 9200
- Cant comment on the case, got a link for that?
- If you want stable, spend some money on a good powersupply :)
- As for overboard, you might have gone a tad far with the Mushkin's ... I think Corsair has a couple models which are both stable and cheaper. Not a big deal tho.

ASUS A8V Deluxe, A64-3500 @ 2.65
1GB KingMax PC3700
640GB [4x160GB, 7200, 8MB]
XFX 6800GT 256MB
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thurman1
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19. June 2004 @ 18:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes..prices are US dollars. Here is a link for the case:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-171-033&depa=0

As far as the Mushkin RAM goes, I thought US$77 for a 512MB stick of DDR PC3200 was really lower end. I will look into the Corsair. Thanks.
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19. June 2004 @ 19:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ditch the hitatchi drive...it's an IBM drive and there have been like 40% failure on those drives. Seagate all the way woo hoo!

PC:
AMD XP 2500+ (Over Clocked to 3200+)
Gigabyte n400Pro2
ATI 9800 Pro (with Zalman VGA Cooler)
Audigy 2 ZS
1GB Corsair XMS
760 GB Storage
80 Seagate
180 Western Digital
2x 250 Maxtor
thurman1
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19. June 2004 @ 19:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the tip on the Asus P4P800. I can get the deluxe version of that board for US$109..a US$60 savings over the P4C800E Deluxe. THe only real difference between the two as far as I can tell is that the P4C800 has Intel CSA gigabit LAN, while the P4P800 has 3Com non-csa gigabit LAN. Given that I have no idea what CSA is about, it is likely not crucial to me.
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19. June 2004 @ 19:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
its up to you if you want gigabit or not

PC:
AMD XP 2500+ (Over Clocked to 3200+)
Gigabyte n400Pro2
ATI 9800 Pro (with Zalman VGA Cooler)
Audigy 2 ZS
1GB Corsair XMS
760 GB Storage
80 Seagate
180 Western Digital
2x 250 Maxtor
AxelFoley
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19. June 2004 @ 19:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
also the biggest difference is that the P4C800 supports the prescott with the 875 chipset

PC:
AMD XP 2500+ (Over Clocked to 3200+)
Gigabyte n400Pro2
ATI 9800 Pro (with Zalman VGA Cooler)
Audigy 2 ZS
1GB Corsair XMS
760 GB Storage
80 Seagate
180 Western Digital
2x 250 Maxtor
thurman1
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19. June 2004 @ 19:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
According to the ASUS site, the P4P800 supports the Prescott
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19. June 2004 @ 19:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
damn...i got pwnd but it is the 875 chipset as apposed to the 865 chipset

PC:
AMD XP 2500+ (Over Clocked to 3200+)
Gigabyte n400Pro2
ATI 9800 Pro (with Zalman VGA Cooler)
Audigy 2 ZS
1GB Corsair XMS
760 GB Storage
80 Seagate
180 Western Digital
2x 250 Maxtor
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19. June 2004 @ 20:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you didnt know it the 875 isnt anything fanicer than the 865PE ... hell the 865PEs are idential in damn near every respect -- they were just "predicted" to not perform as well as those that were selected as 875s.
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ditch the hitatchi drive...it's an IBM drive and there have been like 40% failure on those drives. Seagate all the way woo hoo!
Other way around.... IBM drives are Hitatchi. Furthermore, the Hitatchi drives are amoung the world's best drives hands down. Seagate only wins in the SCSI category. And for the price he's paying its all the more better.
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also the biggest difference is that the P4C800 supports the prescott with the 875 chipset
Prescott isnt anything fancy whether we look at it from a technical level or a performance level. It's an expensive chip that makes a lot of heat and doesnt perform to it's pricetag. Also, thurman1 was looking for an affordable and working system.

ASUS A8V Deluxe, A64-3500 @ 2.65
1GB KingMax PC3700
640GB [4x160GB, 7200, 8MB]
XFX 6800GT 256MB
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thurman1
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19. June 2004 @ 20:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The Intel P4 2.8ghz i selected is Prescott. Should I be looking at the Northwood? As far as I can tell, if I want a 1mb L2cache, I need prescott. Am i wrong?
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20. June 2004 @ 00:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OMFG.... is that all the Prescott is???? A friggen NorthwoodC plus an extra 512K of cache???? Geez, all the hype of a 90nm process and then all the excess heat.... FFS WTF is wrong with Intel??? Somebody please tell me there's more to Prescott than just that :(

ASUS A8V Deluxe, A64-3500 @ 2.65
1GB KingMax PC3700
640GB [4x160GB, 7200, 8MB]
XFX 6800GT 256MB
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thurman1
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20. June 2004 @ 20:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
SO here's where I am now with my chosen components...further comments appreciated.


MGE ATX Mid Tower Case with 400W Power Supply, Model "CAG-M1-BK" - US$55

Lite-On Black 52X32X52 CD-RW Drive, Model LTR-52327S, OEM US$30

Western Digital 160GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model WD1600JD, OEM Drive Only US$101

Mushkin 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - Retail US$77/stick x 2

ASUS "P4P800-E Deluxe" i865PE Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU -RETAIL US$109

Intel Pentium 4/ 2.8E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading Technology - Retail US$179

APOLLO ATI RADEON 9200SE Video Card, 128MB DDR, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "Devil Monster 3 Radeon 9200SE 128" -RETAIL US$49

The total for this system comes to about $690. Seems to me like great performance for that price. Is it worth it to upgrade anything?
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20. June 2004 @ 20:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Id drop the Deluxe model of the mobo but that's up to you.

ASUS A8V Deluxe, A64-3500 @ 2.65
1GB KingMax PC3700
640GB [4x160GB, 7200, 8MB]
XFX 6800GT 256MB
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thurman1
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20. June 2004 @ 21:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
THe deluxe mobo is on sale...its actually $1 cheaper than the non deluxe version...so i figured why not.
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20. June 2004 @ 22:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LOL in that case go for it hehe -- just make sure it's not on sale "for a reason" hehe

ASUS A8V Deluxe, A64-3500 @ 2.65
1GB KingMax PC3700
640GB [4x160GB, 7200, 8MB]
XFX 6800GT 256MB
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20. June 2004 @ 23:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Good call with the Mushkin too :)



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Vastatio
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21. June 2004 @ 13:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
here are the differences between the p4p800 and the deluxe model : "The Deluxe edition is further enhanced with a rich-array of features such as IEEE 1394 connectivity, the unique POST Reporter and IDE RAID technology [...]."

http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p800-d/overview.HTM)


Intel P4 2.6 (800) @ Asus P4P800 Deluxe,
512MB DDr400 Pc3200, Ati Radeon 8500LE 128MB,
Maxtor 40GB 7200rpm, Soundblaster Live!,
Viewsonic E771 17" monitor,AntecLANboy case/PSU(350w)
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21. June 2004 @ 14:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The POST reporter isnt useful unless you have a mobo problem hehe... at which point its a problem period hehe.

The RAID ... from what you posted ... do you actually intend to use the RAID... you've only got one drive listed there :) (I had a bad experience once with onboard raid hehe)

Firewire ... I guess this is the only useful differnce on the board (unless you plan to use the RAID) ... IMO not worth upgrading to the deluxe for though

ASUS A8V Deluxe, A64-3500 @ 2.65
1GB KingMax PC3700
640GB [4x160GB, 7200, 8MB]
XFX 6800GT 256MB
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25. June 2004 @ 16:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i have a problem with gamer atx m1 my lcd light up and read but then it turn off the read part it is a on abit motherboard ig-7 can you help me
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25. June 2004 @ 16:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
is there a user manual for it i just got one manual for it that is about it can you let me see it please eamil it to me to show me where to hook it up and let it stay on

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godforbid
Have a look at the forum rules about offtopic posts and emails.

ASUS A8V Deluxe, A64-3500 @ 2.65
1GB KingMax PC3700
640GB [4x160GB, 7200, 8MB]
XFX 6800GT 256MB
Rules and Policies: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487
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25. June 2004 @ 19:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what do you mean
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25. June 2004 @ 19:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Meaning if you have a question that has nothing to do with the original post, make a new post! :)

ASUS A8V Deluxe, A64-3500 @ 2.65
1GB KingMax PC3700
640GB [4x160GB, 7200, 8MB]
XFX 6800GT 256MB
Rules and Policies: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487
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