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once and for all absolute hands down best program and/or process to back up DVDs
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just because someone is asking for your opinion doesn't mean they are a complete retard as was implied
Bitwriter,
I am truly sorry bitwriter, in re-reading my post it didn?t say exactly that which I had intended. I was not referring to you as an individual but to Newbies in general when I wrote my post. We spend allot of our time dispensing information about that which we know something, I just felt that this was a perfect subject to include everyone in a give-take forum dialog. Again, I was speaking more to my colleagues about the possibility of working with Newbies not for them.
A new concept perhaps, but, as I surmise from this response, an idea which my fellow members don't feel has any merit in this forum or at this time. So, I sincerely apologize to you for any mis-understanding, it was not directed at you. I also apologize to all others who wish to think I was trying to remove them from their teaching position and for putting forth such an asinine thought in the first place - What ever was I thinking ? The idea of helping someone help themselves, I must truly be losing my mind.
Being thus straightened out, I must agree with Sophocles, this is the place where your questions should be aired and answered even though we don't have any more factual information than you. We can, and I will be glad to look up informational links for you -
To that end - Here is yet another D/L Drive, at a faster speed, coming soon - -
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1622910,00.asp
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31. July 2004 @ 12:45 |
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Pete!
No matter what you've posted here at AD, you're almost always kind, and a missed step here and there is no big deal.
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31. July 2004 @ 13:48 |
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AAAAhhhhh, I see it all now, in the 1 hour it took me to write my post, much information has been gleaned and track records established to narrow down a few front runners in the Dual-layer DVD burner race.
By day's end you should have an excellent recommendation on which D/L burner has far and away the best record and should serve you well in the long run.
I may learn something myself -
Thank you,
Pete
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31. July 2004 @ 14:01 |
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Pete you asked for it!
Too much stuff!
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31. July 2004 @ 15:18 |
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You are right, far, far too much unnecessary stuff -
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31. July 2004 @ 15:29 |
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End of stuff!
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31. July 2004 @ 16:31 |
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How can that possibly be true ? A company can make one thing good and another bad ?
Again, pple are making recommendations on guesswork, not on track record.
This was precisely my point in wanting to hold off recommending the Lite-On 832 drive for now. Lite-On has been great products, but the 832 (and the underlying technology) are too new to say for sure whether or not the drive will be any good.
Nate
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31. July 2004 @ 16:43 |
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If you had an old and slow burner or no burner at all does that mean that you won't buy one until dual layer is perfect? Nonsense! If you're like most people on this forum you're going to get one when you need it, and if you're buying one now it's going to be mostly dual-layer. You take no hit in performance or other features if you never use the dual layer feature but if it should come to lower priced media well then this pig has wings.
Of course you could buy an older version which is slower than the current dual layers' are, or you can just buy a dual layer and pretend it doesn't.
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31. July 2004 @ 16:51 |
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Sophocles, you are right, that is a very good point. If you need a burner right now, then I would agree that the Lite-On is a good choice.
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bitwriter
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1. August 2004 @ 10:30 |
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hey scubapete and the rest of you guys,
no harm no foul......i just had to defend my honor a little bit.....anyways, i have been preoccupied lately trying to get getting a new linux version properly configured. though i did do a bit of cursory research on d/l burners. i could only find some by NEC, Lite-On, LG electronics and Sony. To be honest i have never been thrilled by any of these manufactures. On first glance Sony would seem the better choice, but i am far from enthused because while Sony has always been a solid mid-range manufacturer, they typically are more interested in the bottom line than putting out a high quality product. Though like i said i haven't been able to properly look in this matter, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
Also, if anyone is looking for cheap computer anything try www.pricewatch.com, it can be a little difficult to navagate but if you know the exact manufactures part number to verify it is the same thing you are looking at on pricewatch.com, a lot of savings can be had. typically, newegg.com is one of the better/cheaper online stores but pricewatch.com will let you know if there is anyone cheaper.
lol and where did the edsel come from. i imagine it is a comparision to a complete failure of a burner.
bitwriter
PS. ill help when i can though i have a problem with giving my opinion when i am unsure of the complete accuracy of it, because i think it is even more counter productive to give bad information than none at all.
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1. August 2004 @ 10:44 |
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Which version of Linux, and what motherboard, CPU, and hardware are you using? That's the kind of information that helps us answer your question.
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1. August 2004 @ 10:55 |
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hi Sophocles,
thanks for the offer, but i got it under control.....i was just trying to explain my absence....anyway i am sure you know about the little intricaces linux has to offer and how it just takes a little time to sort them out, which should all be takin care of now.
Also, i am wondering how big of a file size CCE SP is?
I am looking at a 8+MB file, but it just doesn't seem right that 8MB would cost $2000. Also, what is the CCE adobe plug-in weighing in at 49+MB. Of course this is just research to make sure when i buy something i am buying the correct thing :)~
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1. August 2004 @ 11:03 |
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Come now, its not the size that matters, its what you can do with it! :)
Seriously though, yea, the program is very small and very expensive. But, it is the best product on the market for what it does. The cheaper version, around $50, will probably do what you need just fine though. No need to drop 2 grand...
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1. August 2004 @ 11:17 |
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bitwriter
I asked you a simple question which I believe is germane to the substance of your post. Instead of answering you start dodging the question by coming up with this Linux recovery scenario. Now you?re telling us that ?you?ve got it under control.? Please explain! Got what under control? Are you saying that we wasted our time on you?
Tell us which version of Linux you?re using and the other information (IE hardware, memory, CPU?) that I asked for in my previous post. If you have it then posts it. Afterdawn is about sharing information and so far all I see you doing is asking. Share with us so that we can learn from your ?wins and losses.?
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1. August 2004 @ 12:06 |
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sorry Sophocles,
i must clarify i was not asking for any assistance on the linux installation, i was simply explaining why i haven't been "around" for the past day and why i have not had a chance to look into farther on some of the suggestions that were very generously offered by AD's members. My reasoning was i am going to start with a clean install of windows (and while i was at might as well get linux back on) in order to simplify and eliminate any software conflicts that may have been part or all of my problem when i first posted my original question about backing up DVDs. Again, i appologize for the confusion but when i said i had it under control i was stickly speaking of the linux installation which never exceeded my ability to handle. i was only trying to let you know that i was in no need of your help concerning linux (though your offer was greatly apprieciated).
Also, now that i am ready to begin to try out the solutions offered to me, i will get back to you guys and let you know how things worked out. i am truely sorry this has been a one way street so far, and i will do my best to give back as much as i can, though honestly i have had nothing to report back with because i haven't tried anything out yet.
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1. August 2004 @ 12:17 |
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When you're asking hardware related questions then you can't exclude the operating system because that's what your hardware drivers work with. It determines which hardware is or is not compatible period! We can?t help you without a comprehensive review of your PC, including operating system.
I?m going to be frank,I don't think you use Linux, I don?t think you could name a version that you?re familiar with. I think you thought, if you threw it out into the threads that all of us Windows users would just intellectually fuzzy and back away.
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1. August 2004 @ 12:54 |
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lol ok what the fuck....if you need to know it was mankdrake 9.2, though this is the first time i have installed that and am more familiar with redhat linux....also, if you needed to know that problems i was having with was configureing the optical intellimouse to work with it.
though i will admit i use windows XP for the majority of my stuff, i am sick of M$ and all its bullshit and am trying to move away from it.
your right i should have included this in my first post but i was only asking general questions about software which frankly had little to do with what hardware/software i am running (go check my post) anyway,OS XP PRO CORP (for purposes here), my hardware is as follows tyan S2468 motherboard dual processor AMD 760 MPX chip set, phoenix bios ( don't know off hand which version) right now i only have one AMD 2800+ barton core MP processor in and unfortuanly only have 512 ECC DDR 2100 RAM. also, 60 GB EIDE western digital harddrive ATA/5. Burning drive is iomega super dvd all format drive USB 2.0 external. I don't think i left out anything else pertainent, but let me know if i have as i am sure you will.
AND WHY THE FUCK WOULD I THINK THAT TELLING YOU ABOUT LINUX WOULD FUZZY YOUR THOUGHTS AND TRY TO GET YOU TO BACK OFF, what purpose would that serve me to confuse the very people i am trying to get to help me. maybe i am wrong to do so but i have a slightly higher opinion of your guys than to think that would cause anyone of you any bit of trouble.
furthermore, other than the first few posts i have made i have spent most of my time defending myself on this forum. what the fuck is up with that. i have tried my best to be humble and very apprieciative of what AD members have to say and i am very grateful for the help i have received but maybe you need to add a rule that states you also must be prepared to defend yourself, about every little thing, at all times. i was not aware i need to prove myself, be that as it may i have learned to only now offer what information that is related to the question anything else can and will be used against you, actually come to think of it anything can and will be used against you. it is humbling enough to have to ask because i can't figure it out on my own but to be ridiculed and called a liar is just too much.
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1. August 2004 @ 13:02 |
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Can you spell malarkey? I can! Why don't you stay within what you know instead of this pretense about Linux? If we sat down now and discussed all the compatible drivers and hardware available for your system (you forgot to mention the mainboard you're using with Linux) you?d be lost.
No ones here is out to get you but if your coming here as a student then study, if you're ready to teach then teach, but a feed of malarkey benefits no one.
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1. August 2004 @ 13:18 |
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Yea, I can spell 'asshole', too. Posts like yours Sophocles are the reason I don't frequent internet forums that often.
Why the fuck are you coming down so hard on bitwriter with all these accusatory remarks? What does his original post have to do with his hardware/software? I understood his remarks about linux, why was it necessary to bash him about it?
Ridiculous.
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1. August 2004 @ 13:18 |
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lol you are right i would be lost and i am already a little lost...i freely admit it, why else am i here, furthermore in case it wasn't clear i use XP, and because i am sick of microsoft i have decided it is time now to move on to linux, which is what i am currently trying to do. i don't know how you got the idea i am an expert on Linux but it is far from accurate. also, i believe i did list my mainboard, unless this is something other than a motherboard. but regardless, i don't remember saying anywhere i am knowledgable on linux, nor do i remember trying to pass myself of as being so either.
anyways this is stupid forget i ever mentioned it, i don't know anything....i am lucky i know how to turn a computer on, let alone grasp anything so complex as throwning three installation disks in, formatting a partition to linux/2 and another one for a swap.
lets just drop it
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1. August 2004 @ 13:27 |
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@ntjones...
I didn't see where Sophocles came down hard on bitwriter. He's not the one using foul language, either.
Sophocles asked a straight-forward question that deserved a straight-forward answer by conventional forum standards. bitwriter did everything but answer this question, and when confronted, went into his "diatribe."
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That?s better; we got the Linux idea because you passed it before us in your previous posts. If you want to hang with us here on AD, then all you need is honesty. If you're just trying to find a way to convince yourself you're smarter than us then face the consequences, keep it real or be embarrassed. Everyone here is a student and a teacher and all you need to make it work is to find out where you belong and grow from there.
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1. August 2004 @ 13:40 |
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You're right, the language was uncalled for, and for that I apologize.
But I stand by the rest of my comments. Linux had ABSOLUTELY ZERO TO DO WITH HIS ORIGINAL POST. Nada. Zilch.
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I?m going to be frank,I don't think you use Linux, I don?t think you could name a version that you?re familiar with. I think you thought, if you threw it out into the threads that all of us Windows users would just intellectually fuzzy and back away.
This kind of stuff, from a Senior Member no less, is uncalled for and unwarranted.
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1. August 2004 @ 13:40 |
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first of ntjones i appreiciate you condolenses.
second, lol i have a decent idea where i belong, again i don't know where i gave the idea i was trying to "prove" i was smarter than anyone. let me explictily state i am a student here to learn. as far as i am concerned i felt i have acted very humbly and grateful to all who offered their help. i also appoligize for my language it was uncalled for but i was getting a little fed up.
anyways i drew the line at being called a liar, i can understand you get a lot of people here that "think" they are binary Gods, but trust me i am not one of them....i know enough to know there is a lot more i don't know. its just i didn't think it was fair to brand me a liar when what i said was the God's honenst truth.
I just don't want AD members to think i am one of those who thinks they know more than anyone especially one of the ones who have to lie to prove it.
bitwriter
PS. now that we can move on, i will be sure to post my findings once i can test them out
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1. August 2004 @ 13:43 |
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This kind of stuff, from a Senior Member no less, is uncalled for and unwarranted.
But True!
I have a low tolerance for malarkey.
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