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18. June 2007 @ 17:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Ah but when oc/d the temp difference has dropped to 2ºc difference and idle overclocked its the same, seems similar to the results i had with my Asetek VapoChill Micro, the more you clocked the better it worked, yeh i get your point on the vibration front though, shame they dont just incorporate a few struts on things like these to minimise it.

sammorris

Im thinking of moving over to a Noctua NH-U12F for my next heatsink, I mentioned the Aerocool Dominator as I wasnt sure if anyone here had any experience of it, but as theonejrs mentioned vibration could be a problem with it, I guess ill stick with the Noctua NH-U12F.

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As far as I was aware, the Freezer 7 Pro only had 3 heatpipes.

Nope, 3 on each side and not the shared 3 like the zalman 9500. I don't like the Dominator because of all the weight being supported by the 3 heat pipes with the opposite side hanging in the air. Any vibration could lead to cracking of the heat pipes at the heat sink, especially as heavy and massive as it is. The design of the Arctic is much more solid as it's weight is evenly distributed! Add to that the airflow is straight at the rear case fan instead of being blown into the case the way the Dominator does it. I'll stick with what I got!

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18. June 2007 @ 18:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
how much harm can be done if i oc a amd 3200+ from 2.0 to 2.5 just using the stock heatsink?


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ck5134,
I just looked up that Noctua and it's one "HUGE" S.O.B. at 155mmx126mmx95mm (with fan)! The 155mm height would cause a lot of problems with a number of cases, especially if it has a window fan! I don't even think it would fit on my MB or in my case. A Scythe "Ninja" while not near as huge would also be a reasonable choice. Still large but not on the scale of the Noctua! The fan for the Noctua would wind up in the trash as the blade design is poor. Put a silverstone on it and get some real airflow without all the noise. Just letting you know what I think!

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theone

The supplied fan is adequate for me here, im in england so temps arent much of a worry, good old sunny england, the size isnt an issue with my soprano case, it wont even interfere with the acoustipack fitted in my case.

The fans are quiet even at 1200 rpm, mates got a couple on his pc as case fans, and they are suprisingly good, still push 48 cfm which will be good enough for my needs.

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Modesty requires that I tell you that My Silverstone 120mm case fan moves about 70-75 CFM at 1600 RPM. 110 CFM at 2400! That's the Oh Sh17, it's overheating emergency speed, because it's "LOUD"! Very quiet at 1600 which is what mine is set at. Because I have the baby brother of sam's Toughpower, and it vents about 30% of it's cooling fans air, inside the case. My PS used to blow very hot air out the back. Now it's just warm and the case is much cooler. It even barely gets warm directly above the PS! Great fan that comes with a controller with a 3 1/2" mount. I drilled one of my spare 5.25 bay panels and mounted it there. Black knob goes good with the silver! If you should happen to buy one (highly recommended) Please don't laugh at the tiny little speed control. All the electronics are in the motor so it's just this tiny little Pot with a knob on it. It does work well and will maintain pretty much whatever speed you set it at!

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Go with what you like, but the Noctua fans aren't all they've cracked up to be. The actual fan speed is quiet, but most of them suffer from a defect where they make a whine that doesn't change pitch if you increase/decrease the fan speed. That's annoying. Nexus or Scythe fans are typically very silent. For the record I currently use the Silverstone fans, and whilst they push incredible air at 2400rpm, that's at the cost of them being pleasant to hear at the midrange setting. They only sound like a good fan up to about 800rpm, at which point a resonant whine kicks in. In a very quiet case, you'd notice this, and not like it. From what I've read the Thermalright Ultra outperforms the Noctua NH-U12F and is smaller, and you get to choose your own fan.



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19. June 2007 @ 06:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by redice:
how much harm can be done if i oc a amd 3200+ from 2.0 to 2.5 just using the stock heatsink?

not that much tbh, it will run a bit hotter but as they aren't the hottest of chips to begin with...

i know of a semp 3300+ that hit 2.62 on 1.5v with stock cooling and it idled in the low 40s and hit mid to high 50s under load. that is between 10/15c higher than at stock.

my old 3400 had an evo33 blower on it and it ran cooler with it when it was oced than it did at stock speeds with stock cooling(not really a shocker but...).

i think the best thing to do is watch your temps, if it starts to hit 60c under load you need to get better cooling.

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marsey99

ok so i can oc with the stock heatsink if i'm only going to go up that much. also would i really notice a different from the stock speed?


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19. June 2007 @ 11:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
totaly honest, it depends what you do.

the link above shows what i maxxed my amd @ but i found the sweet spot to be 2.41ghz (241x10 on 1.45v with ram set 2 166 but oced to 201/ddr402 with tight timings) for most things but i got better benchmarks scores at 2.25ghz with my ram on a 1:1 divider. @ 2.4ghz windoze felt snappier, everything seemed to just work faster,more instant. only if was doing something cpu intensive would i notice the extra mhz.


just a modest +10% oc would give you a slightly more responsive system. i dont think many others in this thread will tell you a stock system is as good as it could be.

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19. June 2007 @ 11:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok thanks. would you be willing to help me oc it because this is my first time doing it?


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They only sound like a good fan up to about 800rpm, at which point a resonant whine kicks in.

I don't get any whine from mine at all till it gets above 1600. I had the side cover off the other day when I changed the fan in the cover and was amazed at how quiet the Silverstone was at 1600 compared to the Arctic at 1000. If it was the only fan in the case, you wouldn't even hear it. Even with 5 other fans running, when I put my ear up to it, it's very quiet. All you hear is a gentle rush of air.

For anybody the bottom line is how well it all cools. With the old 37 CFM fan that came with the case I had to run the Arctic at top speed and the case fan at top speed. I didn't appreciate just how quiet my computer could get until I removed the Cooler Master and replaced it with the Silverstone. Now I let the MB control the Arctic and set the Silverstone to 1600. Right now the Arctic is running at 800 rpm and all the temps are very good and the noise level is not annoying, and especially since the GPU cooler runs at full speed all the time with my 7600GT overclocked to 653/1600. Yes, it's not up to your standards for quiet but for me it makes so much less noise than before. Just the fact that the PS runs so much cooler makes using the Silverstone worthwhile. Considering that I have 2x80mm @2400, 1x40mm @3000 and whatever the PS and vid card fans spin at all running together for a total of 7 fans, it's very quiet indeed! The higher cfm cover fan makes it a little bit louder, but not annoying and it removes heat from the case, which the old one didn't do.

marsey99,
I checked out your CPU-Z and concluded you have a very rare find in your CPU. It must be an exceptionally well binned chip as it's almost unheard of for the FSB to even get to 400 let alone higher with a 4300. The older B stepping would do it, but not most Ls! Mine will only run at multipliers of 6 or 9 and 374MHz is max. I've tried both the 7 and 8 multi and it won't even post if I try to exceed 374GHz. It just sits there rapidly beeping at me and turning the PS on and off until I hit the reset button while it's beeping. Then it posts but at 1.8GHz as it turns the Auto off! I would be curious to see your Sandra 2007 benchmarks to compare to mine. They should be reasonably close as for all intents and purposes they both run about the same speed but your FSB is higher. I'm curious to see whether the higher FSB makes very much difference one way or the other. I'm also curious about your temps!

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Hi again everyone and thanks as always for helping me to get up to speed.
I've been all over trying to find out as much as I could about C2D temperatures. I came to a few conclusions.

The core temps are a number calculated inside the CPU. Core temp = the Tjunction constant (85°C for these Conroes) - the value from the sensor. This is read from the CPU by the software.
The CPU case temperature is done differently. There is a table in the bios that is used to come up with the core temp.
Both the Nvidia 680i and Intel 965 bios can show core/case inversion. That's not good.

I figured swapping the CPUs should shed some light on the matter:




So now I'm running them both with mild overclocks:

Overclock: ~14%, 2.7 Ghz for the E6600 3.0 Ghz for the E6700, Vcore set so both display 1.30V in Everest.




This is what I'm getting with Orthos running:
E6700 on the Asus P5W DH
CPU 41°C
Core 1 40°C
Core 2 41°C

E6600 on the EVGA 680i
CPU 36°C
Core 1 36°C
Core 2 35°C

All I can say that is that when the E6600 was on the Asus board, the core temps were a couple of degrees higher than the case temp.

All this seems inconclusive. but AFAIK, both these have damaged DTSs.
What I've done is ordered another E6700 from the egg and got an RMA number for the one I already have. I'll try both at stock bios settings and see what the Everest numbers look like.
I also bought another psu for the SLI computer, It's an Enermax Galaxy 850 Watt Unit. It's SLI certified and gets pretty good reviews. I hope that helps with the .4-.5V difference I'm getting in Vcore. This is not dropping under load. When I set the Vcore in bios, it's getting reported .4-.5V lower. Even at idle. It drops another .2-.3 volts under load from what I selected in bios. That's why I kept upping the Vcore and probably cooked the DTS's then.
If that doesn't help that then I'm RMAing the EVGA board.



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Nice post, with a few show off pics as well! Do I spy a Thermalright heatsink and scythe S-flex fan? :O

I think I may have got to the bottom of why I rate the Silverstone fans worse than theone does. What is your case made from Russ? Mine's aluminium and will therefore pick up more vibrations, if yours is steel, I think perhaps we know what the problem is!



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I also bought another psu for the SLI computer, It's an Enermax Galaxy 850 Watt Unit. It's SLI certified and gets pretty good reviews. I hope that helps with the .4-.5V difference I'm getting in Vcore. This is not dropping under load. When I set the Vcore in bios, it's getting reported .4-.5V lower. Even at idle. It drops another .2-.3 volts under load from what I selected in bios. That's why I kept upping the Vcore and probably cooked the DTS's then.
If that doesn't help that then I'm RMAing the EVGA board.


been busy w/ work lately, haven't had time to reply to your eVGA 680i inquiries as of late, my apologies for that :)

good choice w/ the PSU, i was using the big brother to yours, the Enermax Galaxy 1000w a few months ago, Enermax PSUs, (at least for ME) have always been very stable and well built...i was running the older Enermax Liberty version on my AMD rig. when i had my 7900gtx video cards in SLI, i only had to replace it with a bigger PSU once i went single 8800gtx there~ :P

as to your current temp issues, while the core temps should be higher than the cpu temp, i too have also found that on the 680i mobo, they have been reversed at times; but that didn't bother me that much only because you have to consider WHICH specific version of Everest you are using, i've always been the type to experiment and test out the newest betas the day they are released, i've rarely ever just stuck it out with the "final release" versions for very long. :)

sometimes in the beta versions, temp readings are corrected and sometimes they are not...it's hard to tell by simply loading up the app. and having it monitor your various temps...you also have to remember that the 680i chipset is "fairly" new and Everest hasn't had nearly as much time tweaking/testing/revising the software to work perfectly with it.

also, with the eVGA 680i mobo, i've gone through AT LEAST 6 of them at this point and have kept only 2 of them, sometimes it actually is more headache and trouble than it's worth to be an "early adopter" of the newest tech :) at one point, i've had 3 concurrent RMAs w/ eVGA setup just to replace: 1. BIOS chip issue, 2. chipset issue, 3. faulty RAM slots issue on 3 different boards. i have confidence in eVGA's customer support dept. though and have had nothing but smooth sailing in getting an RMA quickly and painlessly (i'm setup with eVGA's "advanced RMA" process on all my mobos) :P

anyways, are you using the latest BIOS for the evga mobo? it's P28 now and SO FAR it's proven to be pretty decent at least for me. i RARELY ever use the Nvidia Ntune Console to report temps/readings only because i've found it to be highly inaccurate in the earlier revisions of the software itself. i don't know firsthand if it's improved much recently, and if some of the bugs were corrected, but i've since abandoned it long ago while messing with it.

whether you fried the sensors on the cpu(s) themselves or not, i couldn't tell ya, but i was just concerned about your vcore volts being so high from a few weeks back, even if your cpu required that much to maintain stable OC's you achieved, it was a bit extreme in my eyes despite having very HIGH END air cooling :) i suppose the newer cpus DO require more volts to achieve the higher overclocks that were possible with lower voltages in months past, can't win em' all~

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p.s. i wouldn't go and RMA your eVGA mobo if everything works on it and you don't see/experience a REAL issue with it, that point CAN be argued as it's a very personal decision and truth of the matter is, IT's YOUR MONEY and mobo; i just wanted to let you know that at least from MY past experience, when i had a SPECIFIC issue with a particular component on the board itself, that's when i RMA'ed...otherwise, if it runs fine and stable and all your other components seem to work well together, i see no real reason to get it replaced (unless you just want a new mobo for the fun of it, but know the replacement CAN be a refurbished model and they won't necessarily send you out a brand new, retail sealed mobo in your RMA...i've gotten 2 "refurbished" boards to replace my retail purchased boards and those DID NOT fix the initial problem either) :)


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Hi Sam,
Yeah, Thats what those are.

I couldn't get the Thermalright fan clips on with chipset fan in place. Of course I can't get the chipset fan in with the Scythe in place. So I use safety wire to hold the fan on.

I've been looking at this unit and it looks heavier than it is. I think the board gets a lot more stress from trying to install the heatsink screws or those stock push-in thingies. The motherboard is made out of phenolic resin which is some tough stuff. The fitting on the back spreads the weight out too, so I'm not to worried about it. My wire job may fall off and short out something though so I'll have to some up with something else.






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I looked at the fan clip for my HR-03 and thought "this will be as good as useless" but fortunately that doesn't need a fan. As for the enermax galaxy units, they're great PSUs as long as you're made of money and don't give a rat's bottom about noise. Personally I think 850W is overkill for any PC system (note, a 4Ghz watercooled C2D, twin 8800GTXs, 4GB RAM and 10 hard disks is probably only going to use somewhere in the order of 700W), and intend on replacing my 750W unit with a quieter 620W. I do intend on running an 8800 with it, and I know they can take it. (Corsair HX).



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As for the enermax galaxy units, they're great PSUs as long as you're made of money and don't give a rat's bottom about noise. Personally I think 850W is overkill for any PC system (note, a 4Ghz watercooled C2D, twin 8800GTXs, 4GB RAM and 10 hard disks is probably only going to use somewhere in the order of 700W)
i wonder WHO you could be talking bout here~ :) as yes, i DON'T give a rat's bottom about noise~ LOL


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Lol well there we have it. I think it's kind of cool when I turn the Silverstone fans up to full, makes my single PC sound like an entire server room, but to work with it'd be unbearable, I can hear it over music I listen to using noise cancelling headphones.



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Hi Doc,

I installed the P28 update last Sunday. Very painless!

About those voltages....

I think when I posted before, I mentioned 1.65. At the time, what I actually indicated with every monitoring program I had was 1.56 at full load, 1.6 at idle. 1.65 is what I set it at to make up the difference..... 0.5 volts lower at idle and 0.9 at 100%. I realize this is high but not so high to overtemp the cpu... Of course how would I know that if the temp sensors were not reading correctly?
So A couple of new E6700's should tell me much. I'm going to carefully monitor and record all the default temps this time. When I OC, I swear I'll stay below... um...1.47...?

You are right on about EVGA, they are the kind of folks I like dealing with. I get E mail replies from their tech support in a couple of hours instead of a couple of days.





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hi frank,

well, i wish you only the very best in terms of trying out your brand new CPUs...hopefully after initial monitoring, you can decisively see where the fault may actually lie...be it in your old chips or elsewhere...nothing wrong with comparing results and know definitively...good luck, let us know how they compare once you are completed with testing...i'd be interested in the results from your findings :)

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sammorris,
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I think I may have got to the bottom of why I rate the Silverstone fans worse than theone does. What is your case made from Russ? Mine's aluminium and will therefore pick up more vibrations, if yours is steel, I think perhaps we know what the problem is!

This is getting annoying! LOL!! You are correct again! My case is mostly steel. Just the drive door and lower fascia are aluminum. You would think aluminum would vibrate less, being the softer material but that's not the case. I used to have an aluminum bodied "D" Type years ago and road noise and vibration were higher than with a steel body. Hell, keeping paint on it was a pup too. One little minor ding and all the paint would shatter on a panel leaving you with bare aluminum. Good call Sam!!! Comparing the noise level now compared to pre-Silverstone is like comparing the noise of a storm, during and after! Mine's very much after now! LOL!! Before, it just roared by comparisun!

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Hi,

I am looking to give my computer a moderate OC. Since I finished building it ~3hrs ago, should I wait a while to break it in before I start my OC? Also, I live in an area where summer temperature is ~90F, will my stock cpu heatsink/fan be enough to keep it cool?

cpu - E6600
RAM - pc8500 1GBx2
motherboard - Asus Commando

edit: I noticed after a little use that my cpu temp ~50C and when I started loading 3DMark06 it jumped to 67C. Considering that the ambient temp is ~80F, do you think that I didn't install my heatsink/fan properly, or do I need a better cooling?

Thanks for your help.

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Hi sparker89,
From one newbie builder to another....
At the temps you are running now, a 100% load is going to push it over 75°C. Add an overclock and higher ambient temps and you will have problems. That's too hot.

Those stock intel heatsinks work well enough for non-overclocked PCs. Yours may not be installed correctly. Did you see the Thermal compound on the heatsink base when you installed it? Hopefully you left it on there.

Make sure you have your push-in pins all the way in. If you do need remove it, follow the instructions and you need to clean off the thermal compound and re-apply it when you put it back on.

You have a lot of money invested, why not spend a bit more and get yourself a good heatsink?

Include in your purchase some Arctic Silver heatsink compound and follow the application directions very carefully.
It's not hard to do it correctly.



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eparker89,
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I live in an area where summer temperature is ~90F, will my stock cpu heatsink/fan be enough to keep it cool?

Unless you don't have the stock heat sink installed properly. The best way to work the lock pins is to hold each corner at the metal spring bracket flush with the MB and then push the lock pins in place. Do it cross corner and then cross corner again and it should mount fine. If you have to remove it and start again check all around and make sure nothing is in the way of the aluminum fins like a capacitor or something. I used the one from my Pentium D-940 to put together a friends new E4300. It has a thicker copper core and a little more clearance for mounting and I didn't hit 50C under load at 3.0GHz in an 85 degree room!

If it was me knowing what I know I would buy an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro for about $35. It would work very well with the moderate OC you have in mind! If your MB supports PWM fan control for the CPU Cooler, turn it on. If the fan continues to run at high speeds then you need better case ventilation. I've never seen a better PWM controller than what is on my GigaByte DS3. It's running at 800 RPM and the CPU is 26-27C in a 25C room! If I encode with DVDRB/CCE the speed will go right up to 1600 or so and the temps will be in the mid 40s.

Another thing that might help would be to see if the bios and see if it has a setting called CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) usually found in the Advanced BIOS Features . If it does, turn it on. My E4300 runs at 3.276GHz but it only idles at 2.2GHz. C1E cuts the processor speed when it isn't needed. Some people will tell you not to use it, or it will mess up your benchmarks! Don't know how your's will work but as far as mine goes, that's rubbish! The Benchmarks are identical! Mine clicks the multiplier between 6 and 9, so it's always running either 2.2 or 3.3 according to Everest. Mine works instantly so the minute you click on an app that needs more speed it jumps right up to 3.276. It would seem to me to be a very useful feature when used with an E6600 as it does make more heat than the 4300.

The thing that's so funny with mine is that if I just run the CPU cooler fan at it's highest speed My temperatures are higher! I've had a theory for years that the drier the air, the slower it has to move to cool something down. This year since we are able to use both the swamp cooler and my AC together with the added moisture in the air from the swamp cooler, it makes my temps extremely low at 800 RPM and only goes to about 12-13 hundred RPM.

Anyway give what I've said about those things to try. If the temps still hit 50C then Consider the Arctic Freezer 7. It's outperformed the Zalman 9500 in every computer I own. It's quieter as well.

Clock On,
theone :}

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