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The Official OC (OverClocking) Thread!
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19. June 2007 @ 23:52 |
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LOL you guys are showing your true colours, the only reason noise is an issue to me is because this pc is being used for audio production, if it was my gaming pc i wouldnt give a damn about the noise, but not everyone is into having loads of noise comming from their pc, you all seem to be silverstone fans, thats good for you but i dont need the output they produce or want that kind of output as that itself would create more noise.
ie when your recording and monitoring accoustic guitar and vocals you dont want the hum or rush of air in the backgound, noise cancelling headphones arent any good for this, and you dont always want to have studio monitors up at stupid levels just to compensate for the fact your pc, sounds like a vacuum cleaner.
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20. June 2007 @ 04:13 |
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thats with it running as my sig, but i still run 3ghz most of the time as it feels like it runs better with my ram running cas 3 1t. for mine to run like that it needs 1.41v to the cpu but my nb still only needs 1.2v. it adds about 2/3c to my cpu temp so it idles around 35/36c and hits about 45c under heavy load.
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results from latest stable release of sandra lite.
@redice
i like everyone else here, are more than happy to help if and when we can.
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20. June 2007 @ 08:22 |
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marsey99,
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thats with it running as my sig, but i still run 3ghz most of the time as it feels like it runs better with my ram running cas 3 1t. for mine to run like that it needs 1.41v to the cpu but my nb still only needs 1.2v. it adds about 2/3c to my cpu temp so it idles around 35/36c and hits about 45c under heavy load.
Thanks for posting these.
Other than yours having a wider memory bandwidth by about 1000MB/s it's about the same as mine. Your memory runs at 820MHz while mine runs at 910 but mine is timed 5-4-4-12. It will run at 4-4-4-12 but I don't like having to up the voltage for the memory as it makes it run pretty warm, so I run it at 1.9V! Not sure about the 1T as I thought all Intels ran at 2T. I looked in my P5N-E manual but I couldn't find a way to change it to 1T. I remember with Gina's that you could change it and set it to 1 but it would change itself back to 2T every time!
I run my CPU voltage at 1.392, and that's as high as I'm willing to go. It will run at 3.366GHz but It won't remain stable unless I up the CPU voltage to over 1.4V, which I'm not willing to do. The difference in speed is not enough to warrant risking the CPU so 3.276GHz it is! You are very lucky that you can get your buss above 400MHz. Most E4300s won't go that high except the early B stepping ones. I'll be curious to see what an E4400 will do once I get one. In theory it should be able to run the same settings with a 10x multiplier but I don't think it will run 3.740GHz, at least not on air! LOL!! Anyway, thanks again for the benches.
Clock On,
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20. June 2007 @ 09:32 |
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theone,
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Another thing that might help would be to see if the bios and see if it has a setting called CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) usually found in the Advanced BIOS Features
asus mobo's have this feature but it has to be disabled in order to raise the vcore (at least it does on my P5W DH Deluxe). the commando being asus is probably the same way. it could be a difference between the 965 chipset and 975 chipset too. my bios specifically says "to increase vcore C1E must be disabled". may not have too with the 965 chipset tho. eparker may have to disable C1E in order to increase the vcore in order to OC. he definately needs a better/aftermarket cpu hsf 1st tho before he does anything.
@fasfrank,
I see you have both the asus P5W DH Deluxe and the thermalright ultra 120 extreme. I am interested in getting a thermalright cpu hsf to put on my P5W DH Deluxe but I have a 40x40x20mm chipset fan on my northbridge chipset hs. will the thermalright ultra 120 extreme still clear my northbridge chipset with the additionional height of 20mm from the chipset fan?
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 20. June 2007 @ 09:36
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20. June 2007 @ 09:52 |
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ck, actually I tried Silverstone fans to see what effect they had, but they pull temperatures that are much lower than what I actually need to be below, so they can be slowed down by a hell of a lot. This is where using a Scythe or Nexus fan kicks in. The Noctua fans were great (especially for vibration using the rubber gromets) but for that defect which put me off. If you do audio work it'll probably stick out like a sore thumb. check out (if you haven't already) http://www.silentpcreview.com - they're full of ideas to help you get a quiet PC
Rules of thumb:
Hard disk vibration softeners
Quiet HDDs to begin with (often Samsungs)
Low speed fans (and as many passive coolers as possible)
Silent PSU (Corsair/Seasonic)
High quality silent fans (Nexus, Scythe, and definitely NOT Silenx)
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20. June 2007 @ 09:58 |
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russ, i have mine setup much the same, i leave mine a 3ghz as it only needs 1.35v and it runs quite cool.
my chip will do 440 on the x6 multi but it totaly refuses to play ball on the 7 multi, i dont know why but it only works on x6, x8 and x9.
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e4300 cpuz world record
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=186330
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20. June 2007 @ 11:03 |
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@marsey99
ok thanks. so what do you need to know from me about the computer in order to do the oc?
edit:just notice that i'm now a senior member.
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20. June 2007 @ 11:16 |
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Congrats redice!
As for the CPUZ, that's a nuts score for a 1.8ghz processor, how on earth did he do that?
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20. June 2007 @ 11:23 |
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thanks sammorris
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20. June 2007 @ 13:04 |
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I looked around a bit and noticed that for some people the asus temp program didn't give and accurate temp reading for their cpu. Since my motherboard temp read 38C and my cpu temp read 60C, I thought that that might be my problem until my computer restarted while beginning to install CoreTemp to verify the reading from the asus program. My stock HSF is seated with AS5 right now so I don't think that my thermal compound is the problem. I am going to get the Arctic Freezer 7 pro (as soon as I make sure it will fit) and would like your opinion on the MX-1 thermal compound that it comes with. Some say it is equal to or better than AS5. What would you recomend using?
Thanks.
edit: I pulled of the stock cooler and noticed that the AS5 hadn't spread completely over the HSF or the contact area of the cpu. Having followed the Arctic Silver online directions to the dime (with the exception of cleaning the cpu with theircleaner), I was a little surprised to discover this (not really though with my cpu v. MB temps). To be honest I was a little skeptical of their application method, being putting a single line of AS5 done the middle of the cpu, as I didn't see how it would spread properly. Can anyone comment on their application method and possibly give a better way to apply the thermal compound?
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20. June 2007 @ 16:30 |
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sammorris,
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As for the CPUZ, that's a nuts score for a 1.8ghz processor, how on earth did he do that?
Well for starters, it's not air cooled! Throw in a well binned E4300 and about $700 worth of MB and memory and it's easy! ROFL!!! I spent $228 for my MB and memory! LOL!! You do the math! LOL!! My whole build didn't cost as much as his MB and memory!
eparker89,
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I am going to get the Arctic Freezer 7 pro (as soon as I make sure it will fit) and would like your opinion on the MX-1 thermal compound that it comes with. Some say it is equal to or better than AS5. What would you recomend using?
I've tried both and I see no difference. Whatever the put on the Arctic coolers works very well! Good Choice for your needs!
Clock On,
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20. June 2007 @ 16:41 |
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@parker
alot of people do say that mx-1 is as good as it gets for paste, i am going to get some of it myself in the next few weeks(i want a new heatsink for my nb, and may be a new case) and i can then say how it compares to the arctic silver in my setup. i didnt wipe it off mine when i first got it, but i had to refit it the next day because my mobo was broke.
@sam
its under a tube full of liquid nitrogen, puts ours into perspective tho dont it :(
@redice
everything will help, mobo, ram type, psu, graphics. the more info now the easier it will be to spot what might make it fall over when you turn up the wick.
this is free and can monitor your temps in real time.
http://www.almico.com/speedfan432.exe
this will show you all the info about your cpu, mobo and ram.
http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-140.zip
if you get to know your temps now you will see how much they go up and it will help you know when its time to stop.
cpuz is good to see what your changes have done to all your clocks and it shows all the info you need to know about your ram and mobo too.
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abstract overclocking
ive just overclocked my usb mouse. it was running @250mz and it now runs @1000mhz it has took its response time down to 1ms from 8ms.
this shows you your frequency and response time,
http://files.filefront.com/dx_mouse_time...;/fileinfo.html
and this alows you to change it,
http://files.filefront.com/usbmrs11exe/;6313268;;/fileinfo.html
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20. June 2007 @ 16:56 |
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Lol Liquid Nitrogen, that makes it irrelevant in my book, as while it's achievable, it's terribly impractical. The single line approach for applying Arctic silver V is correct, it's what I did and I get reasonable temps. The stock cooler always runs hot, but not quite that hot. Perhaps it became unseated, that often happens with the terrible mounting method for standard heatsinks (the Freezer 7 Pro does not rectify this). All I can say about thermal pastes is that Arctic Silver V is excellent, and has a lot of history.
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20. June 2007 @ 17:01 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Lol Liquid Nitrogen, that makes it irrelevant in my book
i know what you mean, unless you live next door to BOC gasses its no good for day to day use but it does show what these chips can do. 4.1ghz is still the best i have seen on air (pics i posted weeks back) but even that was on a bench covered in fans.
i also just edited my previous post :)
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20. June 2007 @ 17:09 |
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marsey99
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20. June 2007 @ 19:56 |
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sammorris,
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Lol Liquid Nitrogen, that makes it irrelevant in my book
Not just irrelevant, but with the potential for a leak to be fatal, heightened by the fact that at those temps the tubing would be very brittle so they would have to be isolated from vibration! I'm not afraid of dying but I don't want them to come in and sweep me up in a dustpan when my frozen body hits the floor and shatters into a million pieces. Talk about Humpty Dumpty! LOL!!!
marsey99,
I have a motto for people who OC breadboard style out of the case with fans everywhere! "If it's not in a case, It's out of the race"! What good is umpteen GHz, if you can't use it?
Clock On,
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20. June 2007 @ 21:23 |
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Russ,
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I have a motto for people who OC breadboard style out of the case with fans everywhere! "If it's not in a case, It's out of the race"! What good is umpteen GHz, if you can't use it?
It's a different kind of race.
A top fuel dragster will go 1/4 mile very quickly but thats all it does.
Like a mega sub zero cooled pc can hit extreme mhz but not for long.
The average family sedan with a little bit of work can be made to go quick and still be reliable enough for everyday use.
Thats like fitting aftermarket coolers,good memory etc and tweaking the bios on a pc.Faster than stock,but still reliable for 24/7 use.
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20. June 2007 @ 21:25 |
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It's a different kind of race.
A top fuel dragster will go 1/4 mile very quickly but thats all it does.
Like a mega sub zero cooled pc can hit extreme mhz but not for long.
The average family sedan with a little bit of work can be made to go quick and still be reliable enough for everyday use.
Thats like fitting aftermarket coolers,good memory etc and tweaking the bios on a pc.Faster than stock,but still reliable for 24/7 use.
that's one of the best simple analogies i've heard in a LONG time, nicely put Crowy~ :) right on the mark there for ANYONE to understand.
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20. June 2007 @ 21:46 |
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docTY,
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that's one of the best simple analogies i've heard in a LONG time, nicely put Crowy~ :) right on the mark there for ANYONE to understand.
Thanks for the kind words,
I like to keep things simple!!:)
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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20. June 2007 @ 22:53 |
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Crowy,
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It's a different kind of race.
I can admire bigDK, docTY, mort81 and several others for what they have accomplished overclocking. I can admire all of those who have given their time helping others learn about what makes a computer fast! I just have a very hard time getting excited over someone doing something as rediculous as a computer that you can't use and cost way more than the average person can afford, just for bragging rights!
I would get far more satisfaction out of helping feed the millions of children around the world, who go to bed hungry every night through no fault of their own and help make a difference in their lives, than to throw money away for 15 minutes of fame on something that's basicly useless and helps nothing but someone's ego!
It's just me! It's how I feel about useless things! I have a hard time seeing money thrown away when there are things people could accomplish with it that would help someone less fortunate than themselves! Me personally, I wouldn't need recognition for doing that, as the feeling in my heart would be all the reward I would ever need or desire! There's a lot to be said for silent pride and a sense of accomplishment that you alone enjoy!
Sincerely,
Russ
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21. June 2007 @ 01:03 |
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Russ I agree.
But someone always want's to have the record for doing something
Like athlete's traing for years to get to the olympics hoping one day they might get a gold medal or world record.
Or to hold the land speed record.
Or water speed record or whatever.
So someone will always want to have the record for fastest cpu.
Regards Crowy.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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21. June 2007 @ 02:24 |
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Crowy,
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So someone will always want to have the record for fastest cpu.
I know, and you are right! I know the mentality! LOL!!
I knew a guy once who belonged to this "Better's" club whose sole object was to out do the other guys crazy off the wall bets. I took 10 Grand off him with the 74 NBA Playoffs. The Bullets were favored to sweep Golden State in 4 games. Golden State won the first game! My betting friend turns to me and says "I'll give you 100 to 1 that the Warriors don't sweep, so I spent $100 that I could afford and took the bet. The Warriors swept the Bullets. 16 total difference in points for the entire 4 games! After the final game my friend went in his office and brought me out 10 Grand! I very quietly tried to give it back to his wife a few days later and she simply asked me, "he made the bet didn't he"? And when I said yes, she said "Then he can afford it"! I didn't find out until many years later that that was the most money ever that he had lost on a bet! Kept him at the top of the Club list for a couple of months. I think it was mainly because he lost! LOL!!
Best Regards,
Russ
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21. June 2007 @ 04:55 |
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o no what have i started :)
i love the drag racers is the best way to put it, same as how i love the f1 and moto gp. these are cars/bikes but not as we know them, they cant be used 24/7 but when they go, they go and everyone looks.
i understand what your all saying, but wouldnt you like to have a go of a f1 car (indy car if you like going left?) or moto gp bike, even just for a few laps?
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21. June 2007 @ 05:52 |
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That's what I've been waiting to hear from people for so long, I loathe when people test any components outside of a case, it doesn't give an accurate simulation of how a PC will actually run. "breadboard style" like it!
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21. June 2007 @ 15:41 |
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@sam
so you have been waiting to say you loathe people? strange indeed.
to be totaly honest if i didnt have 2 young kids running around all the time plus their mates i wouldn't have mine in a "case" i would have mine setup on one of those twin level shelf things that you can mount a mobo on the top of and put your drives and psu on the lowwer shelf. not only would it be easier to cool it would also be easier to clean, add to this it looks quite good.
but hey horses for courses eh?
i will post a link when i find it again.
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