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4. June 2007 @ 15:14 |
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NuckNFuts,
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Excuzzi! but who can help me identify the ATX start circut in the PSU? I need to locate the actual pin or lead from PSU 24pin that starts the ATX PWR so I can intergrate my old time delat circut into power on byy keyboard.
It's the green wire to any black lead (ground)
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6. June 2007 @ 21:51 |
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The waterblocks I used cost $34.00 US but also on other mobos, I'm using these (Thermalright HR-09U/S) from Thermalright, picked up locally at SVC in San Jose for $17.95. No more then &21.00 online. They camoe as both S (slanted) or U (upright) to make room for large CPU sinks and The early rev. ASUS P5W-DH (new rev with slight bending of clip) and ASUS CROSSHAIR, A8N-SLI and P5WDG2-WS and P5N32-SLI nicely. Check Thermalright's site for more compatibilty on other mobos. Use w/ a thermalright NB cooler and optional 40mm fan and it really runs nice.
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9. June 2007 @ 15:38 |
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Overclocking On Air
Let's recap on some of the cooling solutions us guys here are using and have been using for so long.
I will say, I've bean using Zalman since the 1st flower for S1 Intel. But by the time of midddle of '03, I was introduced to ThermalRight. Now I continued to try the newest Zalman products along side but have to admit I was really impressed with ThermalRight. Now I know they dont have the "bling-bling" of the more popular off the shelf consumer store products, but wow, they really shine in performance.
I'm currently on the ThermalRight Ultra 120 Extreme cooler w/ a aluminum PAPST 120mm 12VDC low noise below 19db. Now I love the look and feel of my Zalman CNPS9700 but this older moder still outperforms it in many aeras of even quiet ness. They have a newer model out for a month or so as model IFX-14 ( a 14mm dual fan capible). I can only imagine the gain over my current 8 pipe XP-120 Ultra Extreme.
I hear a lot about reffered cooling on air in this tread but can't help to nitice, or NOT notice any mention of the know great performers such as ThermalRight XP & Ultra series, Enzotech Ultra-X, Tuniq Tower 120, Monsoon II lite, Scythe Infinity Dual Fan.
Let's share some feedback on these units. For those of us who wish to stay on air, you really should look into any of these excellent cooling solutions as offering the best on air and right there on the tail strings of lower end water cooling.
Let's hear some more COOL ideas,
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9. June 2007 @ 15:55 |
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My HR-03 is an absolute monster at cooling my GPU. The X1900XT is one of the hottest cards out there and it idles lower than the stock cooler even without a 92mm fan attached. Full load with silent case fans (1000rpm or less) and it doesn't break 90C.
I'm now interested in getting a Thermalright Ultra 120 too, from the reviews I've seen. Looking for something quieter than my Freezer 7 Pro more than anything, it can only cool my 3Ghz E4300 sufficiently during gaming at 70% fan speed. That's not loud, but if I can silence my PC effectively, it will become annoying.
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9. June 2007 @ 16:19 |
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NuckNfuts,
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I hear a lot about reffered cooling on air in this tread but can't help to nitice, or NOT notice any mention of the know great performers such as ThermalRight XP & Ultra series, Enzotech Ultra-X, Tuniq Tower 120, Monsoon II lite, Scythe Infinity Dual Fan.
Some of these are just too damn heavy, like the Tunig Tower. Without some sort of external brace it will warp the MB. Expense of some is an issue as well. Noise as with the Sythe Infinity Dual fan and the Ultra X.
My person computers (we Have three) all have Arctics! The D-940 and the E4300 both have Arctic Freezer 7 Pros and the A64 4000+ has a Freezer 64. All work very well. I had a Zalman 9500LED originally for the D-940, but the Freezer 7 Pro proved better and quieter. I did some testing on both last summer and The Arctics won! Not by a lot, but they cooled slightly better and were much quieter! For a very dusty environment like where I live, the 9500 is a poor choice because of the design. All those little Vs start collecting dust almost immediately and it builds up to a thin carpet in about a month. It's also a bear to clean without removing, which in itself is another bear!
I'm sure you have seen my posted temps, so I personally have no need for anything better than the Arctics. I now put one in every customer build I do. I figure I must be doing something right as I've only had one failure in the past 3 1/2 years, and that was caused by no one ever cleaning out the fans. It finally overheated and cooked itself. Both case fans were so choked up that they wouldn't even turn. The CPU Cooler was barely turning. Like I said, it's very dusty around these parts!
I personally would like to try something like this.
VIGOR GAMING CLT-M2A 92mm Thermal Electric CPU Cooler
They are expensive ($129 USD) but I know a lot of gamers here in Ca. that swear by them. You do need a good PS and good case ventilation!
I would use it on the 4000+ as it's the hottest of the three computers we have, even hotter than the D-940 at 36C idle and 57C load.
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9. June 2007 @ 17:41 |
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I too am considering a thermalright 120 ultra. my pc is never moved so weight is not an issue besides they have a backing plate. I was contemplating a tuniq tower but it is now bested by the thermalright 120 ultra. only thing holding me back is the fact that I'll have to remove the mobo to mount it. my cpu temp (36c at idle) is not too bad or anything to be concerned about now but I liked the temp (33c) better during the winter months.
I've debated on replacing my 9500 with a 9700 as it will bolt onto the existing backing plate but if I'm going to invest in another cpu hsf I might as well go for one of the best or quite possibly the best.
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9. June 2007 @ 18:43 |
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I too am considering a thermalright 120 ultra. my pc is never moved so weight is not an issue besides they have a backing plate
First, let me say that I would never buy a CPU cooler in this day and age with an aluminum heat sink. Second, man this thing is heavy! 745 Grams, only 43 Grams less than the Tuniq Tower and neither weight includes a fan. Even if you don't move it, 745 Grams is a lot of weight to hang at a 90 degree angle to a MB mounted vertically, back brace or not. I read a bunch of reviews on it and there also seems to be some problems with some motherboards being shorted out by the back brace. I can't seem to find out what material the heat pipes are made out of. If they are aluminum, I wouldn't consider one where I live as here, the earth moves.
There seems to be a lot of issues with the finish and flatness of the heat sink as well. Even with the "Idiot Factor" considered, the reviews from people who actually bought one, don't exactly inspire me to run right out and buy one. I think if I needed better cooling I would give Vigor Gaming a shot! Gamers here seem to love it!
Just my thoughts!
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9. June 2007 @ 19:01 |
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theone,
albeit aluminum it did best the tuniq tower which was cpu hsf of choice used for most cpu OC'ing reviews and articles. I'm also going by what docty has reported. he has one on his E6600 rig now as he moved his water cooling to his Q6600 rig. he also lives in southern CA as you know and has used the zalman cnps9700led as well. he likes the thermalright 120 ultra and reports he is getting the lowest cpu temps now of all other air coolers he's used. here is one of the reviews I've read in case you're interested.
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9. June 2007 @ 19:23 |
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That's Right
Will beat most towers and to date only beat slightly by a TEC tower and the case heat load is so high, oyu need faster, noiser fans to exhaust the air generater heat off the "Peltier cooling" hot plate. And for me, the $$ price to get the barely 2c cut under load was not worth the near 45% increase of cost and added noise level.
If you're looling for a new cooler, look at the new IFX-14. it is large but effective if you can make use of it. I can switch NB out for SLI version but would still contact Domonator RAM slot 1 & maybe 2, (I gotta measure). On some mobos, it will stand beyond the top edge of mobo and can touch PSU if you have tight ATX case. It has a nice mobo back plate 2nd cooler to take heat away from back of mobo like ASUS Stack Cool but in heatpipe form. It doesn't seam to fit most MSI and Gigabyte (DQ is one) but not tested on ASUS yet.
Any HSF unit should be cleaned periodically to keep performance up. I agree, the Zalman flowers get carpeted w/ lint faster but not hard at all to get in w/ household vac and suck it out. Air cans just blow the dust somewhere else in thre same case. My nickeled 9700 didnt give too much over bare copper 9500 for compared to any thermalRight in the same price range. I do like the looks and concept of the fans used on the Artic Freezer Pro. Most the loudness is due to fin design. So I will look into mounting one on the XP-120 to test for noise and performance at low speed too using ASUS PWM speed control w 4-wire. I do use the Scythe S-FLEX? 12cm from the xtra tower as a single and does nice on the ThermalRight Towers.
So in the end as for today, that's why I give good praise on these ThermalRight Towers as they can offer better weight, less noise, and lower buy-in then some of those big fancy unitsthat can only offer a few c cooler. But if money is no object, go for what you like or just feel comfortible with.
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9. June 2007 @ 19:32 |
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he also lives in southern CA as you know and has used the zalman cnps9700led as well.
He's about 50 miles or so from me. Where I live you would swear it was high desert, but it's not. When you drive from LA to here, and you get about 25 miles away, the temperature goes way up. LA is usually much cooler. We get so little rain here, yet Riverside which is about 20 miles away gets pounded. I doubt we've had an inch of rain all year. We sit sort of in a bowl, surrounded by hills and backed up to a mountain. When there is a storm locally you can sit here and watch the lightening all around and know someone is getting pounded, but rain is rare here.
If docTY says it's good I guess it's good, as he knows his stuff better than most. Maybe the issues people complain about are quality control problems. I certainly can't imagine someone making up complaints about heat sinks not being flat or roughly finished.
EDIE: Informative article BTW! Thanks!
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Russ,
the concaveness of the contact plate is made that way intentionally to contact primarily the center of the cpu.
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9. June 2007 @ 19:58 |
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Mort81,
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the concaveness of the contact plate is made that way intentionally to contact primarily the center of the cpu.
You certainly can't argue with the results! Wonder what would happen if they made one out of copper?
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9. June 2007 @ 20:40 |
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Wonder what would happen if they made one out of copper?
it would most likely cool even better but talk about heavy! they would almost certainly have to incorperate a bracket of some kind to brace the top of the hs.
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9. June 2007 @ 22:10 |
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I can't seem to find out what material the heat pipes are made out of. If they are aluminum
The 1st origional XP-120 aluminum finned model was built on copper heatpipes w/ aluminum fins to reduce weight. Of corse, IF the pipes were aluminum as well, they would weigh less, but then might need more air to keep as cool as before. Even the base is solid copper w/ nickel plating to brighten up all.
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Mort81,
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it would most likely cool even better but talk about heavy! they would almost certainly have to incorperate a bracket of some kind to brace the top of the hs.
I always prefer Desktop cases to towers, but there just aren't any good ones made anymore. Maybe we will see a new trend develop. I always thought they made a great deal of sense. Put your monitor right on top of them with the keyboard and mouse right at hand. Frees up a lot of desktop space as well. Lets the CPU sit upright, along with the cooler so the natural progression of heat rises smoothly and is efficiently blown toward the rear and out by the rear case fan. Since heat rises, less would get trapped so the computer should run even cooler. Heat pipes would be more efficient as well as they were originally designed to be mounted that way. A bit like the old fashioned bubble lights for Christmas trees. Besides, desktops place a lot in a very small footprint. I know I would love my printer on the desk instead of having to be located elsewhere, but the console takes up that space.
Putting a tower on the floor here is not practical. Too much dust gets stirred up and sucked into the console when people just walk by, so it's relegated to the desktop, like it or not. Same thing with the sound system. It has a remote but in reality, it's very impractical. Using the SPDIF takes away my volume control on the keyboard, so it needs to be in reach. The high definition sound is awsome so I guess all of this is worth it.
I have to ask! Why the quest for a better cooler than what you have already? Are you looking to overclock higher and don't want to go to water? With mine I've reached the practical limit. My fsb is at 1456MHz and won't go higher no matter what multiplier I use. Temperatures are not an issue as mine Idles right at room temperature now. I seriously doubt that I could gain enough to make it worthwhile as the difference between 3.393GHz and 2.756 are slight. Now that I've got the memory running at 910MHz, it runs better than ever. Even when I set the memory to cas4, i didn't gain any MIPS and I only gained 41MB/s in bandwidth. Most 4300s I've come across are running between 2.7 and 3.0. I've even seen claims of 3.6 but I haven't seen any benches to back up those claims. It might be possible with the B's stepping on a high end MB, but it's not going to happen on an Asrock or ECS MB, definitely not with the L2's stepping. I may wind up putting an E4400 in as the 10x multi should let me get to 3.6 as I would only need the fsb to get to 350x4=1400, and the 800fsb of the 4400 shouldn't be a problem. we'll see!
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9. June 2007 @ 23:14 |
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I have to ask! Why the quest for a better cooler than what you have already?
I'm sure I can speak for all the serious PC OC enthusiast to answer "YES" more or better cooling is always welcomed. Most by now know the ability of water, but air cooling is getting so much better these days that it is now easy to have medium OC on air w/ low noise and low maintainance. "YES" we like to know we can clock that much higher and nice to know we can quiet it down for m=normal use if need be. I use water for both quietness and cooling on my gaming or CAD system rig but air is better for my servers and main workstations and new test builds.
Descktops They are back but under a new class of media center PC's (HTPC) used to blend in w/ existing livingroom Hi-Fi components. They do cost more since usually more fancy. There is now a great selection of HTPC (descktops) cases to choose from. Most are aimed at small/low profile and lower wattage PSU, but good amount allow full ATX mobo and PSU w/ good venting through top. I use a large HTPC descktop w/ custom window top w/ direct vents to ported heatpiped sinks for various items, so not a good idea to put anything on top of these guys. I like the look and feel of a Stereo Hi-Fi Reciever w/ media center buttons for DVD and large dial for volume and menue selector.
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I'm sure I can speak for all the serious PC OC enthusiast to answer "YES" more or better cooling is always welcomed.
Right now I don't need it as I don't think it would do me any good but as I said in my post I may buy a 4400 and put it in this one. With the 10x multiplier I should be able to reach 3.6-3.8, and I may well need better cooling. 3.6 is only a base of 360MHz and I know the 800fsb can handle that easy! I'll bet I can run the same settings, or at least close to them so the limit seems to be just over 3.6 with a 10 multi!
So far I've been pleased with the performance of the Arctic Freezer Series. I know they are overkill for my customer builds as they are all stock, but I sleep better nights! LOL!!
I'll look into those cases and see what I can find. Thanks for letting me know!
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Theone: The Freezer 7 Pro is clearly a good cooler, because with the massive additional TDP created by the silly voltage the P5N-E demands I run my CPU at, it still keeps my CPU at a respectable temperature at high speed. Low speed however, and it all falls apart. At idle, the temps barely change, at load the difference is huge. The Thermalright ultra 120 is unnecessary extra cooling performance, but it can offer more at a lower noise level, which is what I'm after.
My Zalman CNPS7000Alcu is an absolute carpet, and cleaning it is going to be a real pain. yet it still cools ok!
The problem with a TEC is you're solving the problem of heat by adding more heat. Great if you want to get good cooling performance on your CPU, but it'll heat your case up a treat. You get the same net effect by running a tower heatsink with a low speed fan. The CPU stays cool, the case gets hot. Same with my GPU cooler too. Tower heatsinks like the Thermalright are expensive, but far cheaper than TECs.
The 4000+ you have is a mystery to me. What fan speed do you use, and do you have cool 'n' quiet enabled?
My CPU at lowest speed (900rpm) manages 45C idle and 58C load, and at a high speed (2000rpm) gets 38C idle and 47C load, I can't get such a dramatic increase from one to the other.
Mort: My PC is moved a lot (LAN parties) but I'd worry less about an Ultra 120 than a Freezer 7 pro because it relies on the very weak method of attachment intel specified as standard for socket 775.
NuckNFuts: I think that combination will be my next HSF of choice, the Ultra 120 with a Scythe S-Flex 1600 attached to my fan controller.
Theone: Desktop cases were good back when PCs didn't create loads of heat. Now, you'd lose the advantage of case side ventilation, unless you used a top/bottom fan. The only cases I've seen that make good use of top/bottom cooling are the Antec P180/182/190 and 900.
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10. June 2007 @ 04:29 |
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I mentioned these high end cooling solutions because this is an Overclockers tread and this is what those coolers are aimed toward. Stock can always make best use of them for near quiet use.
For high end heat pump cooling you can now watercool them too, taking the heat off the hot plate.
About the 4000 mentioned, what version and model? My OC'd aMD X64 x2 4400+ (939) 89w ver w/ 2x 1m L2 cache is a great OC'r and runs cool on air and never over 48C on load of video encoding and below 32C idle w/ CNPS9700-NT on 1.350v
sammorris: I also found the Artic cooler fans in a 120mm size w/ same 4-wire connector and specs show it to be as quiet but haven't tested yet.
Descktop case have all the better advantage over tower in such ways as you can port and cool like BTX and even "stove pipe" all sinks and on mobo including RAM, CPU, chipset, and of corse VGS's in SLI. A properly vented "Stove pipe" tube directed over a spacific unit can provide either fresh air in and as well heated air out by heatrise convection. Momo can also be cooled from below as well.
Just some tested ideas for the ATX/BTX descktop style HTPC Media Center PC
Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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10. June 2007 @ 06:45 |
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With the 4 pin connector? PWM type or the standard large molex? If it's PWM I'm not really interested, since that's my moan about the 64 Pro, you can't connect it to a fan controller, you have to wait until windows loads then open speedfan. Asus Qfan is as good as useless.
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10. June 2007 @ 07:45 |
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I agree that the artic freezer 7 pro does a good job cooling but the one con and reason I never owned one is that it doesn't use a backing plate for mounting. most high end cpu coolers do. I want my cpu hsf to be screwed down securely not held in place with push n latch pins. it wouldn't be a big deal with a desktop case where gravity is your friend and pushing straight down against the cpu but with towers where gravity is your enemy, their mounting configuration is too weak for my liking.
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the case gets hot. Same with my GPU cooler too.
almost all the high-end gpu's vent out the back of the case nowadays. that was one of the main reasons I went with my X850XT PE.
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10. June 2007 @ 11:32 |
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Which screams like a banshee. My GPU cooler sounded like that, until I replaced it with a Thermalright HR-03 and it now makes very little noise. (I can't say no noise since the circuits themselves make quite a loud scream when playing games, but I can't exactly replace those).
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10. June 2007 @ 12:57 |
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NuckNfuts,
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About the 4000 mentioned, what version and model?
It's an A64 single core, San Diego! 2.4GHz mildly OC'd to 2.76GHz. It OC's higher but I'm using the on-board video right now and it won't clock higher without the video crashing. Good processor!
Clock On,
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10. June 2007 @ 13:18 |
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I wouldn't argue with a 15% overclock with Onboard video. I only managed 9% with my X2 and that was with a dedicated card! It did however use Value Select RAM.
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10. June 2007 @ 13:39 |
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TO: theonejrs,
Well the mobo plays a big part in this of corse. My retired single 3800 San Diago moved to a A8N-VM CSM/NBP (sml ATX) and it did fine to 2.6G on air w/ Zalman CNPS7700-Cu. This is more like 20% on a mobo w/ onboard nVidia gForce w/ DVI out and did good but leave better as 2.50GHz as 250x10 RAM 1:1 daily user w/ XP Pro x64 SP2 Edition. This single got a bit warmer then my x2 4400 but better cooling would help reduce that. Currently only 4 - 5c over the x2 OC (37c idle/58c loaded. I am also using onoard HD audio, This was gifted last yr to a inlaw w/ hapy results and still god to go.
Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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