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The Official Graphics Card and PC gaming Thread
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12. July 2009 @ 23:06 |
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Well Blast! I can't find much of anything about my mouse and keyboard. Logitech apparently doesnt support any info about it anymore. Perhaps its time to upgrade eh. I dont know though, you guys can't seem to game with your newer wireless mice, that makes me nervous LOL! Im not joking when I say there is NO lag when gaming with my mouse! I was trying to find the Dpi specification of my mouse, but can't find it. Ah well. I wouldn't mind a new mouse that can dock to charge itself. That sounds most useful :D It would have to be NiMH (Nickel-metal hydride) though. I've not seen a better battery yet. However I read about a water based batter a while back that sounded interesting.
Estuansis, your sig link appears to be broken.
You might try photobucket. I switched to them because that happened too many times. I do like imageshack's thumbnail option though. Im not sure if photobucket does that.
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13. July 2009 @ 06:35 |
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30W per channel maybe, but I wouldn't trust it to more than about 15W. I've seen the size of the heatsinks on those regulators. As large as they are compared to other controllers, more than about 15-20W through something cooled like that with no nearby airflow is asking for trouble, especially long-term.
Estuansis: My thoughts exactly, it's peace of mind. In the same way I don't want to have to worry about whether my PC will crash or not during the game, so I settle for a lower overclock, I don't want to run the risk of my mouse not working in a game, so I use wired instead.
I've never heard of the Gigabyte Ghost, I'm curious.
Omega: Laser mice are invisible. Only optical are visible. As for $40, your mouse may well work alright, but the actual performance of it as Estuansis says, is going to be dire compared to the mice we use. The old saying goes, once you buy a gaming mouse, you'll never buy anything else. The old saying actually goes once you buy a Razer mouse, but there we go, lots of Logitech fans in here anyway.
By the way, the shortcomings of wireless mice? Lag isn't one of them. It's drop-out.
My sig has been hosted with imageshack for a solid year now, I've never seen it go down, have you?
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13. July 2009 @ 10:27 |
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I feel depressed now. I have a Microsoft InteliMouse Optical that I've had for years and years and I got rid of my (albeit cheapo) Logitech mouse for it because the Micosoft one fits in my massive hands better.
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13. July 2009 @ 10:28 |
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I still have an intellimouse optical here at home. With the rather premature demise of my KVM switch it's coming in handy.
A note to anyone else: Next time you buy a product and spot 'Solytech' on the power brick, try and get yourself a few spares, you'll probably need them!
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13. July 2009 @ 10:31 |
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The problem with them is when you use someone else's mouse they feel pathetic and tiny and like your going to break them.
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13. July 2009 @ 10:32 |
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Well, no. I feel like the MS mouse would be more likely to break than the Razer. So far at 6 and 3 years old respectively, they're still in good shape.
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13. July 2009 @ 10:44 |
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Not in a quality sense (god no the MS mouse is a right plasticky thing) in a size sense! The MS mouse feels like a brick where other peoples seem tiny small and as if they would crumple like sweet wrappers.
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13. July 2009 @ 10:46 |
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How does the size make any difference to how easily damaged they'd be? I don't get it...
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13. July 2009 @ 12:52 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Laser mice are invisible. Only optical are visible.
Thanks for that sam. As for your mice being better...i'll have to take your word on that. I can't imagine them being any better, but I guess i'll know one day. Actually, I think I have seen your sig broke. Don't quote me though, for it could have been someone elses LOL! I don't know why imageshack screwed up pics so often for me. Photobucket has been 100% dead on.
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13. July 2009 @ 13:32 |
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I always found photobucket confusing and unintuitive, so I never used it.
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13. July 2009 @ 13:54 |
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TinyPic anyone? :o
I guess I'm the only one who thinks these things through logically? :p If you're going to use the sig on afterdawn, where should you host the sig? Yep, afterdawn ;)
I uploaded mine to my profile and link it from there :)
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13. July 2009 @ 13:57 |
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im a photobucket user.
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13. July 2009 @ 14:26 |
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it's probably changed since the ages ago I last used it.
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13. July 2009 @ 19:20 |
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Thanks for that Shokz. I think using tinypic to host it right from AD worked well. Hopefully I have a sig showing now, lol.
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13. July 2009 @ 19:25 |
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Wow, that's going back a bit!
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13. July 2009 @ 19:38 |
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Haha yeah it's an old sig but I like it :P
Going to be making a better one soon. Maybe a Gigabyte logo or AMD or something of that nature.
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13. July 2009 @ 20:34 |
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Yeah, I was noticing the new anime on the sig - you must have used that a couple years ago before I came around. Shaff got me on photobucket, and it's super easy, but shokz is a genius to link to A/D - makes perfect sense.
Originally posted by shaff:
well according to the reviews, its the best mouse ever made, but obviously over priced.
its a newer mouse, newer tech, untill we try it we cant exacrtly dissmiss it. it can be used are wired and wireless. sounds good, but IMO £120 on a mouse it WAY too much, id rather spend it on shsiha :D
I think you have a good point, Shaff. We can't actually dismiss the mamba too fast. I haven't read too much yet - the price IS a little steep for sure. So far the dpi specs are really high, and a couple other things I've noticed is that it has a rechargeable battery - it recharges from the usb - and you can run it from the usb as a true wired mouse.
What about the two buttons that allow you to change the cpi setting on the fly - finer setting for head shots - like defending fence on forklift crescendo - and quicker sensitivity for running around the map - does it offer that? That is one feature I like about the steel series.
Regarding battery power - my little AA coppertop seems to be lasting pretty much f**king forever. Let's see - I picked up my original red (bad) v220 about four months ago. I used it probably for about 20 hours on the laptops. I started using it on L4D about 10 weeks ago, just for a laugh, and so I have probably run it for 100 hours on L4D so far. It is not a laser - it is a 1000 dpi (cpi?) optical, and I don't know how much difference that makes in power usage. Also I don't know what the polling rate is. It turns itself off if you don't move it for a while. The random firing was not a battery problem - and when a change of battery didn't fix the problem, I put the old battery back in (and played for 10 hours a few days ago - no problems.)
For me since I only game once a week - all day Wednesday - (at least that's the plan - but I've been back-sliding a bit lately) if I had the mamba, I guess to recharge the battery I'd have it plugged into my non-gaming rig that I am typing this on, which I use daily. I'd have it sitting off to the side recharging, since I'm fine on my cheap wired ps/2 mouse. Originally posted by rich on l4d news:
Btw 1, I finally played a whole campaign - a good team stuck together after going back to ace the hospital finale with everybody getting out - so I earned my expert "merit badge" on dead air - 3 to go, lol. Btw 2 I'm 'berkeley' now if anybody tries to find me - a search for harvardguy should still find me, or rich estes.
I don't see you other guys complaining about the wire the way that I do, so maybe it's just these cheap mice I have and their rather stiff wires. Maybe you guys just have more pliable wires on your mice that don't push back. For me the "back-push" of the wire is as bad as if, for example, there were a sticky place on the mouse pad, where some jelly had dried, if you can imagine how bad that would be for movement.
Do you guys NOT have a problem with wire back-push?Originally posted by kevin:
I dont know though, you guys can't seem to game with your newer wireless mice, that makes me nervous LOL! Im not joking when I say there is NO lag when gaming with my mouse!
I know what you mean, omega, about getting nervous. They've made me nervous too with all this talk about staying away from wireless, but while I'm waiting for the new mouse to arrive, I played with the bad mouse a couple nights ago (when I got my merit badge, lol) dreading the friendly fire - which fortunately never happened - the gun did not "go off randomly" again. I noted later that I had it plugged into the lower usb on the front - in case that had anything to do with it. But anyway, I HAVE ABSOLUTELY ZERO LAG as far as I can tell.
I read where one guy said - "even 1/1000th of a second is too much" but since then I have thought about it a bit, and 1 ms is probably essentially unnoticeable, isn't it? Or would you see that as a problem if you were awping, for example on counter strike, where they used to say if your ping is not below 100, don't try to awp.
A ping of 100 is 100 ms right? In other words, 1/10th of a second. That's ghastly! I just opened a command prompt window and pinged yahoo - 82, 80, 78, 80. That's almost 1/10th of a second. How could I possibly awp somebody if by the time I pressed my awp trigger 1/10 of a second had passed which would virtually allow their entire body to pass beyond my cursor?
A guy the other night thought I was hosting the server, he said, because according to him, my ping was 5. I never check my ping, but maybe I should. So anyway, I guess my whole point on this was that, like Kevin, I can't notice any lag at all on my little 1000 dpi optical v220 notebook mouse. A 1 ms lag, if that's what happens with wireless, would move me from a 5 ping to a 6 ping, or a 50 ping to a 51 ping. I would not think you could notice 1 more or less ping - or do you guys think I am wrong? Or is there a whole other side of this - besides the reliability issue - that I am missing?
Hold on - here's Sam clarifying things.
Originally posted by sam:
By the way, the shortcomings of wireless mice? Lag isn't one of them. It's drop-out.
Sam, what is drop-out? You just entirely lose the connection for like - a couple seconds?? Never had that happen. And how would I make sure, if I actually got a wireless mouse, like if I sprung the $130 for the mamba, that the mouse is not RF? Besides RF, what are the other communication methods - what is 3.5G? Is that the new standard?
And while we're on the subject of mouse specs, when steel series talks about 40,000 frames a second on their wired Ikira 3200 cpi laser, what do they mean? How does that fit in with 1000 hz polling? Sorry to sound ignorant, but I am. Other than a rough understanding of dpi (why is it cpi, not dpi?) I am lacking on all the other mouse terminology - although I finally understand lift-off I think - the distance above the surface that a mouse will still work at, the higher the better (to a point) so that you can use teflon glides and your mouse will still work.
Originally posted by Keith who thinks he's Quasimodo:
I feel depressed now. I have a Microsoft InteliMouse Optical that I've had for years and years and I got rid of my (albeit cheapo) Logitech mouse for it because the Micosoft one fits in my massive hands better.
The problem with them is when you use someone else's mouse they feel pathetic and tiny and like your going to break them.
Lol, I thought Jeff was the only giant guy around here. Well, do you guys hold the mouse with a "claw" grip, or with a "palm" grip. I recently read about that - and I'm in the claw category - I hold it with my fingers, and rest my palm on the mouse pad - other guys rest their palm on the mouse itself and need a bigger mouse (I don't even know how you would do that - my big wired cheap A-Open mouse that I'm using now - I still use my "claw" grip - now that I know what grip I use, it makes me feel like a pterodactyl.) How can a person control a mouse and rest their palm on it at the same time? (How do you guys hold your pencils - with a "claw" grip, or a Quasimodo grip? hahahaha)
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14. July 2009 @ 00:16 |
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My hands are larger than most peoples. I'm 6foot 5in (1.9558 Meters). I rest the bottom of my hand on the desk while the palm of my hand barely rests against the mouse. I suppose during intense gaming however, I might give a tighter squeeze LOL!
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14. July 2009 @ 04:46 |
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All 7-button Razer mice have on-the-fly sensitivity. It's something I never used to use because it interferes with OpenGL games, but who uses OpenGL any more?
The "wire push back" is something that does bug me with my mouse a little sometimes, but it's mainly down to how you have the wire setup - if it's curled round on the desk, it'll cause you grief. If it's straight until it runs down the back of the desk, it's no trouble at all. Take some care over where the wire is and you'll find yourself less annoyed by this. It's certainly less annoying than using a wireless mouse.
As for lag with a mouse, I wouldn't want any more than 2-3ms lag, due to the USB polling rate with some mice/keyboards, that's sometimes what you get. However, as I explained it's not lag you encounter, it's drop out. it's never as long as a couple of seconds, but it's there, and it's rage-inducing.
I hold the mouse in a rather strange way, so I wouldn't take lessons from me about that :P
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14. July 2009 @ 08:24 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
My hands are larger than most peoples. I'm 6foot 5in (1.9558 Meters). I rest the bottom of my hand on the desk while the palm of my hand barely rests against the mouse. I suppose during intense gaming however, I might give a tighter squeeze LOL!
I hold mine similarly I think...
Meh I've got nothing better to do then take pictures of my own hand:
In that one its not clear my fingers are still reaching the mouse buttons
Hosted on ImageShack no less
I'm only 6ft 3" but I do have large hands for someone my size :-)
my Sig's pretty crappy but I've never been arsed to do another one.
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14. July 2009 @ 13:17 |
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well...I guess im not the only bean pole on the forum LOL! :)
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14. July 2009 @ 13:20 |
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I've no idea how tall I am, it's been a while since I measured myself, I think at last count I was 6ft 1 1/2".
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14. July 2009 @ 13:25 |
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bet I have you guys beat on foot size LOL! Size 15, though I can wear most 14 boots.
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14. July 2009 @ 13:29 |
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Size 7 / 8. I have small feet :(
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14. July 2009 @ 13:37 |
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Size 12. I know that's right because my mum was a shoe fitter :-)
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