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30. October 2007 @ 13:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I was excited when it arrived, but knowing how much work is involved installing it, that excitement has gone. I know once it's done I should have not only a fully operational PC again, but also a higher overclock. However, installing windows and getting all my drivers is at least an hour's job, usually more, and the hardware install will probably be equally long.



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sammorris,
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I was excited when it arrived, but knowing how much work is involved installing it, that excitement has gone. I know once it's done I should have not only a fully operational PC again, but also a higher overclock. However, installing windows and getting all my drivers is at least an hour's job, usually more, and the hardware install will probably be equally long.

The mechanical part isn't too bad, but you are right about the software. I have so many programs that I use that need to be set up. I have some 43 programs on my desktop alone. The worst thing is that some have to be installed before others or everything won't work right and you have to un-install them and start all over again!

If it wasn't for the work involved I would set the new one up with the E4300, just to compare to yours, but getting the CPU cooler on with the MB mounted in the case gets more difficult every time you do it. I'll mod the heatsinks with AS-5 and mount the cooler before I install the MB in the case. I was able to get to a 444MHz (1776MHz fsb) with the E6750 in my 965P-DS3. With full chipset support for the CPU, it should do even better in the P35-DS3R MB. One things for sure! I will find out! LOL!!

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30. October 2007 @ 15:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ugh, I know, I can't wait... :S
On the positive side, I may be able to overclock and actually get realistic numbers, oh and be able to set the timings on my RAM too...



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319 Mhz? Damn that's low. My motherboard goes up to 435 Mhz, and I just pushed it further. You know if you are increasing the FSB make sure you are supply the CPU with more voltage, and maybe the chipset(I have personally never done that). Also your Ram might be holding you back so make sure you don't have the Ram overclocked like hell, turn it down a bit, or loosen up the timings.
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esoteric1, Look into the Abit IP-35 Pro just under $200.00 for one of the better overclocks in the under 200 price range. I know the regulars will have different to say but just thought I'd try to share. It's not quite as top notch as the ASUS P5K Deluxe and Premium, but well above the DS3 series for FSB and performance overclocks. And yes, I can say that now since I have all of the above mentioned side by side to show.

However, if you come up on a P4K, jump on it and go at it for the better of the best for P35. As I said earlier, this mobo really shines even close up against my new ASUS MAXIMUM (DDR2 version of P5E3). But that's gonna change shortly as I tweak it more in the next weekend.

sammorris, If you just wanna' get up and running for now, the ICH9/R is fully compatible w/ the ICH8/R and only need is to update INF for P35 and additional drivers for NIC, audio etc. It isn't the best but will get you going good enough for now till you get time to reinstall. And what do you meen, you can't adjust your RAM nw even if using Gigabyte's ctl+F1?

My Two Cents! For what it's worth.
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Unfortunately no, my current board is an nforce6, I doubt it'll work...



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sammorris,
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Ugh, I know, I can't wait... :S
On the positive side, I may be able to overclock and actually get realistic numbers, oh and be able to set the timings on my RAM too...

After so many years of only using Asus MBs and then buying the 965P-DS3, it was the easiest build of my life. There weren't any surprises and everything worked like it was supposed to. I'm expecting more of the same with this one! This will be my 9th GigaByte MB I've used this year. 7 have been customer builds, and everything has worked without problems. I haven't had to call tech service for anything. My track record this year with GigaByte is much better than the previous year with Asus! I've still not forgotten (or forgiven) that they tried to nick me $40 for a damaged CPU socket, that wasn't damaged. If I hadn't thought to take pictures as it was being packed up I would have been out $40! All I ever heard after I supplied the pictures was that the charge had been "Waived"! I didn't like it then and I still don't like it now!

The one time I did ask for something from GigaByte was in regard to the Specs mixup on my MB in their overview of the product, just recently. They were more than fair about it and I consider the $50 a bargain for the exchange GA-P35-DS3R! They were also pretty quick about handling it too! I like their thinking! I like the way they do business! It shows a commitment to the end users and forever overclockers' like us, that they're there to solve problems so that we all wind up with better products! They'll even answer questions about overclocking, and the settings for it! Given the fact that I've had 8 successful Intel builds without so much as a hicup and zero problems with anything, care to guess who gets my vote?

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30. October 2007 @ 17:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
if this build goes to plan, I'll be a gigabyte convert too, I'm thoroughly impressed with your track record...



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sammorris,
Good luck with the new build Sam! You deserve it!

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30. October 2007 @ 17:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks Russ, I'll let you know how I get on...



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ASUS still meets my personal needs. they can be pickt to get set up at times, but after some fine tuning they really come through (speaking of the flag-ship models).

As for friends & family, it's likely gonna' be Gigabyte now too, since most won't notice the big difference on the upper level & I too, may get less service calls. I myself would've got in earlier if they made a !975X based DQ6 to try.

I had a rough time with ASUS too back in the early days of LGA775 w/ the P5AD2 and later "E" and "E Plremium".

For system builds for sale, it was easier then to use the last true ASUS built Intel brand known favorabily as the bad-ax on !925XE. Since it was ASUS built, it had the performance w/ Intels' reliabilty, and yet Intel allowed a little OC for the 1st time, giving in to the chipset and multi lockout. Plenty of thanks to ASUS. So, for stock builds or mild 15% OC's. The Intel Enthusiast/Performance boards came through in terms of stability and fast RMA service and parts. Loved the Credit approved cross shippment. Abit now does this too, as I'm sure many others are following.

So, now it's looking like Gigabyte can meet those needs for me and my end users.

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crowy,

I did end up getting a X2 6400 Black Edition and just waiting for time to put it together as I'm also working on my X38 build at the same time. While I still have time to return it, isn't their a 2mb L2 version of the X2 5000 Black Edition that runs cooler? Although this looks to be able to hit 3.5GHz comfortably on air but bit warm again and lots of pwr draw on overall system and only @ 1.5v During bench pre test).

This is just to hold me over to nVidia 7x0 series on DDR3 and new 4x4. I imagine you're getin' one of them too?

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NuckNFuts,

There is another version of the 64x2 5000+. See here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103030
Newegg shows both the Black Edition Brisbane and and the 64x2 Windsor having 1MB of L2 cache. The Windsor is 89W compared to the Black Edition's 65W.

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theonejrs,
Im using OCZ Platinum XTC REV.2 PC2-6400 2x1Gb
Unlinked, 800mhz

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sammorris,

Voltages:
vcore 1.36
vfsb 1.5 (max)
nforce SPP 1.55
nforce MCP 1.5

abuzar1,

yeah when I went on my fsb adventure I left my vcore at 1.36 where it is stable for my 2.87 OC and then dropped the multi from 9 down to 6 so I had more then enough voltage. My memory is unlinked so I was under the impression that it doesnt effect fsb, but i could be wrong. I tried losening timings, overclocking and underclocking the memory but nothing seemed to work.

NuckNFuts,

I looked into the P35 lineup and the Abit IP-35 Pro looks like the best and only $200 thanks for pointing me in the right direction, I'll be ordering that soon :)


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Well most motherboards don't have unlinked memory and FSB. It does have a difference if you have a motherboard that doesn't have unlinked FSB and RAM.
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esoteric1,
Don't know if you've read this or not but it's worth reading if you are interested in a P-35 MB.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/06/19/e...oards_compared/


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esoteric1,

you're not going to get a very high OC with the vcore at only 1.36v. try 1.40 or even a little higher. you shouldn't have any heat issues with the cpu hsf you are using. even though the fsb/dram is unlinked, make sure the ram is 800mhz or less at least untill you reach the cpu OC you are trying to achieve. make sure the fsb and PCIe freq is unlocked and PCIe freq is set no higher than 115.

that cpu should OC to 3.0ghz or even 3.2ghz fairly easily.

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1.36v is just the voltage I run at with my 2.87 oc, the highest I've tried is 1.45v but the fsb just wont budge, the motherboard is definitely holding me back. Im just gunna get a better one and give this one to my brother who doesnt know what overclocking is.

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esoteric1,
I'm so surprised. The 850i is supposed to be a good overclocker. When I built my 4300/965P-DS3, I started at 2.25 GHz and jumped right to 3.0 from there. I had no trouble hitting 355 on the fsb for everyday use and even ran it as high as 376 at 3.384GHz.

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esoteric1,

a buddy of mine (DocTY), has an evga 680i mobo and he loves it, even better than his asus P5W DH Deluxe (which is also a very good OC'ing mobo) and he DEFINATELY knows how to OC. he had his E6600 close to 3.8ghz on air and 4.0ghz on water. I seriously doubt the mobo is holding you back. just my .02.

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Originally posted by NuckNFuts:
crowy,

I did end up getting a X2 6400 Black Edition and just waiting for time to put it together as I'm also working on my X38 build at the same time. While I still have time to return it, isn't their a 2mb L2 version of the X2 5000 Black Edition that runs cooler? Although this looks to be able to hit 3.5GHz comfortably on air but bit warm again and lots of pwr draw on overall system and only @ 1.5v During bench pre test).

This is just to hold me over to nVidia 7x0 series on DDR3 and new 4x4. I imagine you're getin' one of them too?
The 6400 black processor is a 90nm windsor core with 2x 1mb L2 cache and 125w TDP.Other 90nm Athlons have a TDP of 89w so I'm guessing these cores are probably getting close to their maximum performance level.With reasonable cooling and quality components ~3.6ghz is going to be a good overclock.Remember they will heat up fairly quickly with vcore increase so good cooling is a must with these.I,m looking forward to seeing some benches from you when it's all together:)

The 5000 black edition is a 65nm Brisbane core and has a TDP of 65w.
There is no 2x1mb L2 cache 5000 black edition processor only 2x512mb L2 cache.These chips are clocking to 3.4ghz+ on air and need minimal vcore increase so heat is kept to a minimum.A good water cooled setup would probably see 3.5ghz+ with the right components.

As far as going 4x4 in the future,thats something to think about when I win lotto!!!

Phenom should be here this month,so I'll wait until next year when the reviews are out and the prices come down.

Regards,Crowy.



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Maybe you just got a bad motherboard, or RAM. Sometimes people get REALLY unlucky.
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NuckNFuts,
There is a 64x2 5000+ Windsor with the same amount of L2 cache. It's built on the 90nm platform and is an 89 Watt chip! See here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103030

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Originally posted by theonejrs:
NuckNFuts,
There is a 64x2 5000+ Windsor with the same amount of L2 cache. It's built on the 90nm platform and is an 89 Watt chip! See here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103030

Clockin On at the Speed of Light,
theone :>)
Russ,Thats the locked multiplier 90nm windsor x2 5000.
It still has 2 x 512mhz L2 cache and won't overclock anywhere near as good as the x2 5000 black cpu.

Regards,Crowy.



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Crowy,
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Russ,Thats the locked multiplier 90nm windsor x2 5000.
It still has 2 x 512mhz L2 cache and won't overclock anywhere near as good as the x2 5000 black cpu.

I thought his original inquiry was about a different 5000+, that might run cooler than the "Black Edition"! The "Black Edition" is 64 Watts and the Windsor is 89 Watts. I thought that's what he asked! Could be wrong though. LOL!!

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