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18. August 2008 @ 17:46 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
No, it's £751. You forgot we don't get free delivery. I hope this isn't going to be a common ocurrance... :P
Deny it as they might, the users are correct, that was always the case with shop-related threads before, just because I'm not a registered member of the OcUK forums (and refuse to be) doesn't mean I don't look on it sometimes.
but they are improving. they allow forum shop talk, free dellivery, for people who havent shopped in a year are getting 10% disccount vouchers, and this trial is going so well for them, yewen has been telling me they will be doing a 4 dayfree shipping if the trial goes as good as this,a nd loyal customers will be getting much better deals, if customers who havent shopped in a year get 10% off, the loyal ones will be getting a much better deal.
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18. August 2008 @ 18:18 |
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You know what I think?
Newegg is better.
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18. August 2008 @ 18:20 |
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Lmao, I think newegg > any UK store to be honest, but between them Aria and Ebuyer do as best they can. Ebuyer and Scan are the UK's newegg and tigerdirect methinks. Tigerdirect have a UK store, Misco, but realistically their terms of service and product range mean they rarely get used.
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18. August 2008 @ 18:22 |
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if only we had rebates :) with this new CS, OcUK, are even better, but then im a fanboy :P
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18. August 2008 @ 18:31 |
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About as fanboy as they come really, restricting yourself to products OcUK sell since you never recommend anywhere else...
Rather than look for what you can get from OcUK specifcially, I look for the product first, then where to buy it. This is rarely an issue, as what I'm after can usually be found from no more than 2 stores, and since ebuyer offer free delivery to all customers, and Aria offer low cost shipping on smaller items with royal mail, your options are far more open if you're more open minded with where you shop.
OcUK are still out to mislead the customer to boost themselves, and this is another good example:
HIS ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 2048MB GDDR5 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express) - Retail
The worlds fastest graphics card - The HIS 4870 X2 features 2x 4870 Cores, 2048MB GDDR5 Memory, 1600 Stream Processors resulting in unrivalled speed.
was £349.99 ex vat
10+ in stock
£319.99 ex vat
It was never £349.99+VAT.
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18. August 2008 @ 18:40 |
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18. August 2008 @ 19:07 |
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no i do not restrict my self to OcUK. they were 349.99 on release day, their proce fluctuated that day ALOT.
i have used scan, ebuyer and tekheads aswell as OcUK. OcUK have a MASSIVE range of items, that you cannot deny. their prices are competitive (bar gouging) and CS is absolutely brilliant.
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18. August 2008 @ 19:15 |
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I never saw them go for that much. Even on release day the highest price I saw was the one they quote now.
OcUK's range is good, there's no denying that. Like all shops they lack a few items but on the whole there's little they don't sell. Their prices are competitive on some items, but are pretty pathetic for specialist items like watercooling parts. Customer service, perhaps until the last couple of months is obviously the letdown as their past ineptitude has delayed not only a build of mine, but also a couple of friends, all by significant margins. Customer service from Ebuyer and Aria is uniformly excellent - I'd have to say that despite all the 'improvements' to OcUK's service, I would still rate Ebuyer #1, even if I didn't have my past misgivings about OcUK.
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18. August 2008 @ 19:18 |
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Is anyone interested in an HD4870X2 for £255 + postage? I have been contacted by the same person who sold me my 4870 and he's selling on an HD4870X2, which I can blag for the above price. That's a full £100 less than you're likely to find one for currently.
Send me a PM if you're interested,
Low price is, as before, due to it being an engineering sample.
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18. August 2008 @ 19:37 |
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their W/c parts overpriced?
i didnt know, but i havent seen others stock such an extensive W/c section, if the shop isnt specifically targeted towards water.
the CS is turnign around. yewen was talking and said since spring last year they have tujned it around amssively, and are trying to become number one on all fronts. and its was £411 inc VAT, we were attackign them for that, and they lowered the price.
could you put up some comparrison w/c parts prices?
having msn talk to their manager is the best CS :D haha.
I WANT THAT CARD... its a shame this 4850 i got was duff, and now OcUK gave me the refund, and im going to get he his ICEQ 4850 as soon as its in stock:http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-102-HT
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18. August 2008 @ 19:43 |
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I'm sure we can come to an agreement... haha
I caved on the 4870X2 deal. My first email was 'sorry, unless you can wait six weeks until I get my loan, I'll have to say no' - 5 minutes and some thinking later I added 'I'll ask around and see if any of my mates want the card' - 5 more minutes and some more thinking later I added - 'screw it, I'll buy it, I have a job now, I'll either find a buyer or use it myself'.
Who am I to refuse a hundred quid off a 4870X2? Now of course I'd love to whack it in my existing PC but I'd need a much bigger PSU. I'd also love to 3dmark the 4870X2 but for that to be worth it I'd need a quad core CPU. This is all, 'wow, what I'd do when I get some money' and the offer of this 4870X2 has rushed it too quickly for me. I'll see what I can do, I don't want either my 4870 or this 4870X2 sitting on a shelf losing money for any period of time, nor do I want to fork out extra on a big time PSU and CPU and have a crazy loud PC. Decisions, decisions. Hell, I don't even know if the 4870X2 will fit the Lexa. It'll probably be a tight squeeze.
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18. August 2008 @ 19:48 |
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sell me the 4870 then :D
looks liek i got the RMA too soon. the 4850 is meant to be sent tomorow. i had replaced ALL but my mobo and it wouldnt go above 20FPS. so right now i checked on my old PC with P4 3.06Ghz and 2GB of DDR1 at 200MHz.
at 1920 all low a solid 90 FPS, which before on my 3.4GHZ E2140 and 4GB of Geil 1193MHz (IICR) RAM was going about 20FPS. RMA to my mobo should sort that :)
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18. August 2008 @ 19:52 |
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So it's your mobo not your GPU? Hmm, that's the second case of poor frame rate due to a motherboard I've seen today. Both Asus - nope, no snide remark here.
If you want my HD4870 that can easily be arranged. However, I will have to run-in the 4870X2 first to make sure it's happy with my existing system, so the earliest it'll be sent off will probably be the beginning of next week. It will hurt but I can't Crossfire the X2 and the solo card without a major infrastructure change, and to be frank, I'm not even sure it's necessary, especially when you consider that 4870X3 is vulnerable to the 4870's own limitations with memory, to which the standalone 4870X2 isn't - of course this is all irrelevant if you don't use 2560x1600.
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18. August 2008 @ 20:05 |
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mm yeah :(
oh well its been an amazing board and to think i took my E2140 from 1.6 to 3.4 with a tad over 1.38on the Vcore....amazing!
and RMA to that, and i might sell the RMA for a P45 P5Q PRO.
PM the details, or MSN me :D
also ironically the crap P915 chipset mobo that my P4 is on is an asus aswell :D
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18. August 2008 @ 20:37 |
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Well Sam, now that you'll be stepping up to the 4870x2 (that was fast!) it would be fun to see some more Crysis numbers.
On your "does anybody have a fortune to spend?" I didn't see Crysis at 2560x1600. But now with the 4870x2, we should see some good crysis fps data at that resolution, right? Congrats again - and more power to you shaff for nabbing Sam's single 4870!
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18. August 2008 @ 20:48 |
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depends on his price:)
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19. August 2008 @ 06:47 |
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I had to request the 2560 crysis numbers, they weren't in the article. They are as follows:
Originally posted by Zardon:
4870 X2 CFx all very high at 2560, avg around 33, dips into the 10fps zone from time to time.
280 GTX slix3 all very high at 2560 avg around 53 dips into the 28-30fps zone in firefights from time to time.
thats DX10. Slix3 is playable, 4870 X2 cfx isnt really. ATI need to work on optimising for this game. scaling is poor.
Haven't had to chance to try DX9 yet.
You have to remember of course that Crossfire X doesn't really work in Crysis with four GPUs yet, so the result with two 4870X2s is about the same as with one - namely the one I should be trying out soon. The GTX280 triple SLi combo is unstoppable though, maxing out Crysis at that res in DX10 with no trouble whatsoever, still no AA though, but in Crysis, I don't consider it necessary.
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19. August 2008 @ 09:58 |
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I spent ~$3000 on my comp, bit much, but I'm glad I did...as I will have a sick setup for quite sometime...with continued updates.
I am a fanboy of my local store, memory express. Almost always cheaper than newegg (and in Canadian prices!), but I have ordered from NCIX, and have an account on tiger direct.
I will have to download 3dmark06 off filehippo.
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I play crysis with one GTX280 just fine...
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19. August 2008 @ 10:18 |
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At 2560x1600?
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19. August 2008 @ 12:25 |
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Nope I think its 1650xsomething, one down from the max I do believe.
Shaders are on full though and not medium. I don't have any program that measures frame rates though, so I couldn't tell you how good it is, but it plays without problems.
xfx 790i P08 Bios
Q6600 at 3.4GHz
Patriot Viper DDR3 1600MHz 7-7-7-20-1T
GTX280 710 core clock i think
Dual boot system with:Ubuntu 64-bit,Vista Ultimate 64-bit,
Electrical Eng, Gamer, and Heavy PC user.
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19. August 2008 @ 13:30 |
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What's your setup again?
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19. August 2008 @ 14:17 |
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GTX280 clocked to 677 core clock, upped the shader clock and others too but can't recall what they are at again.
Q6600 at 3.4
Patriot Viper DDR3 clocked up a bit at 1620 with 7-7-7-20-1T
790i
Vista x64 SP1 with blackviper tweaks
xfx 790i P08 Bios
Q6600 at 3.4GHz
Patriot Viper DDR3 1600MHz 7-7-7-20-1T
GTX280 710 core clock i think
Dual boot system with:Ubuntu 64-bit,Vista Ultimate 64-bit,
Electrical Eng, Gamer, and Heavy PC user.
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19. August 2008 @ 14:23 |
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3Grand is a bit much isnt it?
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19. August 2008 @ 14:37 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
3Grand is a bit much isnt it?
Yeah I actually didn't price it out though, as I bought it overtime and some things were considered sunk costs. I bought my case/power supplies/hard drive/monitor/keyboard n shit first. Then I got the MB, Ram, Processor, and last the graphics card.
My full system is:
CM Stacker 830 Case (Black) ~350
Thermaltake 1200W modular ~350
20in Syncmaster ~200
Microsoft Basic Keyboard n mouse ~20
Some portable speakers 2.0 free
XFX 790i ~350
Q6600 ~250
Viper DDR3 ~450 (yikes~!)
eVGA GTX 280 ~650 (first day out haha, never got my rebate)
Hitachi 750GB ~150 as my main drive, OS's Vistax64, XPx86, and Ubuntu x64
New additions:
Spinpoint 1TB ~150
Dlink Wireless Extreme N PCI-E adapt ~100
umm that comes to very roughly ~ $3020
xfx 790i P08 Bios
Q6600 at 3.4GHz
Patriot Viper DDR3 1600MHz 7-7-7-20-1T
GTX280 710 core clock i think
Dual boot system with:Ubuntu 64-bit,Vista Ultimate 64-bit,
Electrical Eng, Gamer, and Heavy PC user.
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19. August 2008 @ 14:55 |
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Well you overpaid a LOT on the Case, PSU, GFX Card, Motherboard, and memory.
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