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Real Taiyo Yuden Or Fake???
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mesa101
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4. February 2006 @ 18:15 |
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i just got some ty GH000125 from supermedia store...i ordered 4x and got these 16x i assume....i burned the 4x at 4x and never had trouble. i burned these 16x at 8x and they skip alot..i backed them down to 2x and worked great..i wish they would send what you order.
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5. February 2006 @ 00:26 |
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@mesa
i'm actually not too fond of the TYG03s, while they are good quality TYs, i PERSONALLY have better success with the 4x TYG01s and the 8x TYG02s... :)
i think if you honestly compare the 16x rated DVD-R format discs n the market today, out there, the Taiyo Yudens would STILL be in the top 2 choices...my opinion is that the MCC Verbatims might be a little better or tied for the same spot, in terms of quality. :P
i don't use 16x DVD-R format rated discs often, i'm much more of a "dvd+r" guy; but i do have a few hundred of the TYG03s and only like a 50-pack of the 16x Verbatim MCC03RG20s. i burned mine @8x with fairly good results, not spectacular, but acceptable. (for DVD-R format, my best quality scans are on TYG01/TYG02 media)
anyways, just curious, what is your make and model # of your burner? if it's an "older" model, a firmware update MIGHT help out a lot in terms of your burner recognizing and adapting to the TYG03s in regards to speed and quality...i NEVER burn ANY of my media @2x, i've always gotten the absolute WORST results when burned below 4x. even my 16x burns produce better quality than my 2x burns, but that's just me~ :)
good luck
docTy~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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Crazy098
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5. February 2006 @ 14:08 |
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I've actually never had a ty-02 fail. I have a NEC 3520AW, with 3.05 liggy firmware.
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Crazy098
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5. February 2006 @ 14:14 |
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The seller on ebay is silver-tek-media. When I receive the dvd's, please tell me some software to test them thoroughly.
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5. February 2006 @ 21:22 |
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there WAS a thread on here a few months ago regarding this seller...i believe he actually called me an "idiot" for not knowing what i was talking about when it came to GENUINE Taiyo Yudens..LOL :)
another member had purchased media from him and i declared them as being FAKE TYs...he brought the thread to the OWNER of Silver-Tek media's attention and that's when the crap hit the fan~ :)
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The seller on ebay is silver-tek-media
no worries, we've dealt with him on AfterDawn before...there was even a supporter of his media (i wouldn't be surprised if the poster WAS the owner of said company) LOL..he had like thousands of backups on these FAKE TYs and he said nothing but praise and stuff for the company...who knows?
anyways, the POINT of that thread before was to determine whether the media there was IN FACT FAKE or GENUINE..and i concluded they were DEFINITELY 100% FAKE Taiyo Yudens, perhaps the owner thought he would be losing a lot of business or whatnot because i spoke up about the authenticity issue...it's just a FAKE Taiyo Yuden media ID coding on media that is apparently MADE IN TAIWAN; lot of "smaller" brand name dvd media companies do this, so silver-tek is NOT alone in this...
whatevers, i proved my point back then...i would link you to the silver-tek media thread, but i'm too lazy to search right now..sorry, i remember it from a few months ago... :)
docTy~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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faineant
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14. June 2006 @ 15:51 |
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Just want to let everyone know that this place has been very educational and helpful! Thanks!!!
I too, bought some DVD discs on eBay a while ago from the seller [silver-tek-media] and got ripped off thinking they were actually true Taiyo discs. It turns out they are NOT, no valid serials except for some T307 and T322 crap, and I got like 3 out of 5 coasters on those crappy discs. STAY AWAY!!!!!!!! Here is a link to their eBay store:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZsilver-tek_media_storeQQhtZ-1
NOW, I recently bought some 16X DVD discs from this other seller [postalbay] and I can confirm that they are genuine!!! The inner hub on the discs have numbers that starts with "GH" just as advertised. So far, all the burns have been good. They must be legit! Here is a link to their eBay store:
http://stores.ebay.com/Postal-Bay-Store_BLANK-MEDIAS_W0QQcolZ4QQd...
So, my conclusion is the same as one of the other guy, not all of them are cons, but once you find a trusted source, eBay or not, stick with them.
TAIYO YUDEN #1 FOREVER!!!!
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14. June 2006 @ 16:04 |
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:)
thanks for sharing your experience with us, that will prove helpful to others that consider ebay for their media purchases...i feel for you being scammed by silvertek media though, you are not alone in this~ :)
docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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wykoh
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20. June 2006 @ 10:27 |
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Hi guys, came across a guy with a nick midco88 from ebay claiming that he is selling authentic TYs. He a relatively new seller with around 90 ratings. Has anyone dealed with him before?
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmidco88QQhtZ-1
He claims that he can only ship to Singapore(where i live) if I order 500pcs & above. I've also asked him some questions shown below, his answers r in bold.
Hi black_wing_diaz,
So total price will be 119.99 + 75.55 = 195.54? Sounds good.
How much more to pay for the insurance coverage?$3.
Is this item value line or premium line? This item is Premium line but we do offer Value line if you are interested.
This is an authentic made in japan item right? All of our Taiyo Yuden DVDRs are authentic. We DON'T sell imitation or 3rd party products.
Lastly, is there a TYG02 media ID coding & GG00xxxx inner hub reading? Yes, the ID coding is TYGO2. The inner hub reading is GG000124.
Hope this information is helpful. Please let me know if you have anymore questions. If you can't find the product please let me know so I can upload it onto ebay.
Thanks
What should I do guys? Trust him or not? 500pcs!!! Thanks...
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20. June 2006 @ 13:11 |
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Lots here have been stung by these jackass offers on e-bay, buy them at your own risk..
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downtown
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4. October 2006 @ 22:15 |
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Been reading a lot of the topics on here and I'm scared about the DVD-Rs I just bought. I must admit I didn't do enough research before purchase, or at least not enough to be satisfied. I wantd to know if these are real TY
DVD-R-media-silver-thermal-lacquer1.html" target="_blank">http://store.yahoo.com/cdrdvdrmedia/taiy...l-lacquer1.html
They don't say High Quality as I've seen you all say that other fakes do. They have the GG000xxx code in the center of the discs, so I'm thinking they probably are legit, but just wanted a second opinion. :)
Thanks for the help everybody. Long time reader, first time poster (I think first time).
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5. October 2006 @ 03:06 |
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According to the inner code of GG, they code out as 8X -R media.
(Lifted from Doc TY's wonderful thread about Taiyo Yuden disks.)
Taiyo Yuden rated speed & format/ media ID coding / inner hub reading
4x DVD-R = TYG01 / GD00xxxx
8x DVD-R = TYG02 / GG00xxxx
16x DVD-R = TYG03 / GH00xxxx
4x DVD+R = YUDEN000T01 / i don't know cuz i don't have any :P
8x DVD+R = YUDEN000T02 / TG00xxxx
16x DVD+R = YUDEN000T03 / TH00xxxx
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/296925
this is a great place to learn about TY and fake TY disks.
Hope this helps.
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5. October 2006 @ 03:17 |
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hi downtown,
welcome to your first post here on AD~ :)
if i could get a proper link to the media you are referring to, i could tell you right away...
i don't think you have much to worry about if it's clearly stated that you have Quote:
They have the GG000xxx code in the center of the discs, so I'm thinking they probably are legit, but just wanted a second opinion. :)
also, if i'm not mistaken, cdrdvdmedia is a subsidiary of meritline.com~ :) or allmediaoutlet.com~ (not completely sure which of the two it is) all of the big specialty media online retailers that are located here in southern california are associated with one another; which is the "parent" company of the less known websites, i don't know for certain...but, i know there is a definite "link" between meritline.com + cdrdvdmedia and possibly allmediaoutlet; supermediastore is it's own entity (well, competition to meritline) and rima.com is too~ :)
that's not something most people know, they purchase media wholesale from dealers/suppliers and re-sell them to the public, i know this because i have purchased directly from the big dealers/suppliers myself, naturally not on the scale of supermediastore, meritline, rima, etc...but enough to get my feet wet and know they all buy from the same supplier.
you have nothing to worry about w/ those Taiyo Yudens, i can confirm for you 100% if i can get the link to the media which you are looking at to friggin work!...not your fault, im just frustrated at how the links get all messed up on here sometimes...
docTY
edit: BlivetNC beat me to the punch LOL, he was nice enough to kindly refer you to my thread...thanks for that buddy~ :)
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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downtown
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5. October 2006 @ 06:28 |
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Thanks for the replies. Let's try this again...
(put the http:// in front of that, cuz it's still not showing up right)
www.cdrdvdrmedia.com/taiyo-yuden-8x-DVD-R-media-silver-thermal-lacquer1.html
But by what you've said and what I see on the actual disks, then I'm not worrying too much that they're fakes. If I start getting a bunch of coasters, which I don't think I will, then I'll buy another pack of for sure legit TYs. But again, thanks for the help.
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thunkit
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30. October 2006 @ 14:33 |
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I just got Taiyo Yuden DVD-R from supermediastore, which seems to be well respected everywhere I look. However, the hub numbers do not coincide with what everyone is saying it should say. Mine say ygg25a 4049 70gg. Is it possible that they were sold phony dvd's?
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thunkit
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3. November 2006 @ 18:38 |
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Is this thread 'dead'?
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downtown
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3. November 2006 @ 19:45 |
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Originally posted by thunkit:
Is this thread 'dead'?
I've been asking questions in this thread too, but I would think that you probably got fake TYs if they don't have the right hub ID.
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4. November 2006 @ 05:23 |
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Originally posted by thunkit:
Is this thread 'dead'?
- nope, we don't close threads when they've been answered (unlike some other sites). We only close them if they get out of hand or whatever.
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thunkit
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4. November 2006 @ 08:56 |
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Thanks for the reply, downtown. I know very little about this stuff, so I went with what was supposed to be a reliable place, but I really don't want to get ripped off for $40 by anyone.
Considering the feedback I have gotten, I would strongly advise not using supermedia store. I'll post what problems I have if any returning these things to them. This is a real pita, don't need this aggravation!
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krzn65
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4. November 2006 @ 14:26 |
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Originally posted by thunkit:
I just got Taiyo Yuden DVD-R from supermediastore, which seems to be well respected everywhere I look. However, the hub numbers do not coincide with what everyone is saying it should say. Mine say ygg25a 4049 70gg. Is it possible that they were sold phony dvd's?
I am looking at my media that I purchased 8 months ago from supermediastore. The inner hub says RA614A20834GJ, they are DVD-R 8x do you think these are fake? I also purchased some DVD-R 8x for work about 3 months ago the inner hub says BE617A304823GG. Are these fake?
Thanks
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4. November 2006 @ 14:39 |
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ok, let me put this issue to rest~ :)
@thunkit
ur media is NOT fake from supermediastore.com, the discrepency here is that you are reading the inner-most hub reading, not the inner hub reading that i stated in my Taiyo Yuden thread (that blivetNC posted up) :)
you have the real deal and i hope you haven't returned them yet, the numbers you are posting up here are the numbers on the clear plastic portion of the disc...as close to the "hole" as possible, the other "numbers" that people on here ask for is actually just OUTSIDE of that where the dye begins...if you look closely, they are "laser-inscribed" located right before that "silver lining" (for lack of a better word) on a TY disc~ (where the dye starts, you can find it by looking at the bottom of the disc...OR the top of the disc but it will be a "mirror-image" of the "hub ID" i usually refer to) :)
it's been a few weeks since i've been here, but it didn't seem like anyone else was offering much concrete advice on real/fake TYs, so i figured i would tell it to you straight...u heard it from me if anyone disputes the claim that they are FAKE :) they most certainly ARE NOT FAKE, but the genuine article~
@krzn65
same applies to your discs as well, you are also looking at the inner-most numbers on the clear plastic part...look a lil bit outwards on the disc and you will find what you are looking for~ :)
copied once again from my TY thread:
Taiyo Yuden rated speed & format/ media ID coding / inner hub reading
4x DVD-R = TYG01 / GD00xxxx
8x DVD-R = TYG02 / GG00xxxx
16x DVD-R = TYG03 / GH00xxxx
that about covers it for all the DVD-R format that you guys are using/questioning about~ :)
long live TY~
docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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thunkit
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5. November 2006 @ 06:32 |
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Thanks for the info. Never in a million years would I have looked there if you didn't explain it as well as you have here. I didn't get this from all the other posts, maybe I'm just thick! I don't imagine I'm the first person to return these for lack of seeing that number. I now see it and still can't read it! I could barely see the other number!
I'd be curious, if you know the answer. Why doesn't Taiyo Yuden have any info on this on their website? It seems this would be the most sensible way to handle it. I know if people were returning my product because they thought it was fake, I'd make a real effort to let people know what the real deal was! I suppose this question is best answered by Taiyo Yuden, I just thought maybe it was common knowledge to 'those in the know'. THANKS AGAIN!!
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krzn65
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11. November 2006 @ 23:57 |
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Thanks kivory666 I do have real ones.
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bounce8t4
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7. December 2006 @ 14:59 |
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Finally found a site where people know what they are talking about. hey I'm new to digital editing scene, learning as i go. Was pulling my hair out why things were crashing like they were. Finals looked like crap. After making many "coasters" I "googled" in 'bad blank media' and i came upon this site. I read your takes and was highly impressed and joined. I learned more in 5 minutes from this site than two days of searching. IT'S THE MEDIA! quick ? Due to time restraints I need to replace my memorex media with something from retail. does any "brand name" use TY? sony, pana...i need an initial batch till mailorder is suffice. thanks
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7. December 2006 @ 17:47 |
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@bounce8t4
Sony MIJ 8X with white octagonal spacers on top of the spindle are TY, +R 16X Sony media also made in Japan are, as well as 8X Fuji MIJ (Very hard to find), Some Maxell 8X MIJ. If you can't find any TY try Verbatim, usually on sale someplace or another this week.
A good thread for everything TY related and the such.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/296925
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8. December 2006 @ 18:34 |
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Originally posted by blivetNC:
@bounce8t4
Sony MIJ 8X with white octagonal spacers on top of the spindle are TY, +R 16X Sony media also made in Japan are, as well as 8X Fuji MIJ (Very hard to find), Some Maxell 8X MIJ. If you can't find any TY try Verbatim, usually on sale someplace or another this week.
A good thread for everything TY related and the such.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/296925
hi buddy,
just curious about something you had posted...namely, the " +R 16x Sony media also made in Japan are" comment...to the best of my knowledge AND purchasing a pack of 16x DVD+R Sony MIJ media, they DO NOT reveal Taiyo Yudens :) it's the same Sony D21 coding that is found on their MIT packs as well...
on the 16x DVD-R Sony MIJ, TYG03s can be found which are in fact made by Taiyo Yuden, but this does not hold true with their 16x DVD+R Sony branded MIJ packs...
i know there have been "rumors" going around that Sony 16x DVD+R MIJ are spawning Taiyo Yudens, but i went and bought a 50-pack of Sony MIJ 16x DVD+R myself RECENTLY just to find out once and for all the validity of this statement people have been tossing around...after purchasing ONE pack, i am confirmed FOR MYSELF this is just a RUMOR and is UNTRUE at this point.
i pointed out in the past IF anyone had found YUDEN000T03s under the Sony brand name...MIJ naturally in the 16x DVD+R speeds, i would like to see a scan (dvdinfopro/dvdidentifier/etc.) of one with picture validation...to this point, all i've read are "hearsay" and rumors that are completely unfounded w/ no basis of truth.
i'm not here to be a "thorn" in anyone's side, especially not you BlivetNC as i respect you as an "online friend" and the assistance/advice you share on here...i just wanted to dispell this "myth" of Sony 16x DVD+R MIJ being YUDEN000T03s, i don't know WHO you heard it from, but i would like to see PROOF if they did in fact obtain YUDEN000T03s from a Sony branded pack of 16x DVD+R made in japans (with or without the octagonal spacer) :) added to that i'd like to know WHERE they got the particular spindle from as well, i obviously was not as fortunate as i got SonyD21s from my own Sony branded MIJ 16x DVD+R pack i bought last week hidden in the back behind all the MIT packs on the shelves :P
docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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