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Real Taiyo Yuden Or Fake???
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david20
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16. September 2005 @ 21:15 |
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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:YUDEN000-T02-000]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD+R]
Manufacturer Name : [Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd.]
Manufacturer ID : [YUDEN000]
Media Type ID : [T02]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4.70 GB (4.38 GiB)]
Recording Speeds : [1x-2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x]
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** INFO : Hex Dump Of 'Media Code'-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding 'Media Code'-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 11h (Method 1) - ADIP Information
0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00 .........&.?....
0010 : 00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4e 30 30 30 54 30 32 00 38 ...YUDEN000T02.8
0020 : 23 54 37 10 02 4e 72 02 8c 63 16 16 0b 0b 0a 0a #T7..Nr..c......
0030 : 01 19 1b 0c 0c 0c 0d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0040 : 01 00 38 38 02 34 63 13 05 22 22 10 0e 12 12 01 ..88.4c.."".....
0050 : 00 00 02 34 63 13 05 22 22 10 0e 12 12 01 00 00 ...4c.."".......
0060 : 02 00 54 70 02 4e 64 4a 20 11 08 08 01 18 00 00 ..Tp.NdJ .......
0070 : 00 00 02 67 64 4e 20 10 08 08 01 18 00 00 00 30 ...gdN ........0
0080 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0090 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00a0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00b0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00c0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00d0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00e0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00f0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
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16. September 2005 @ 22:11 |
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Well, when you flip up-side-down, does the inner hub has any of these codes on it i.e. "GG", "GD" or "TG" and some numbers after that? If you have any of the above then it is genuine Yuden. Base on the information you provided, I believe it is real Taiyo Yuden. Here is an example of mine.
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16. September 2005 @ 22:55 |
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to clarify what alkohol stated very nicely, to be MORE precise, look for TG00xxxx (where the xxxx represent the batch number of when it was actually made, the xxxx will be numerical values, NOT letters)coding on the inner hub when u flip it over to check~ :)
these are the 8x DVD+R Taiyo Yudens, but, the media ID coding can easily be faked as i have some 8x DVD-R with almost IDENTICAL coding other than the fact it's TYG02 rather than the YUDEN000T02 coding, the manufacturer/company description is IDENTICAL to the scan you have above...
hope that clarifies things for you, just do a quick check on the ACTUAL disc and see if you can locate the numbers both alkohol and myself have mentioned...if this is AUTHENTIC, it WILL start with "TG00xxxx"
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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david20
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17. September 2005 @ 06:31 |
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I got number in the hub is TG001133 Is that real taiyo yuden code???
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17. September 2005 @ 07:22 |
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Congratulations david20, you've got the real (genuine) Yuden right there. Yep.... Taiyo Yuden ROCK..!!
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david20
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17. September 2005 @ 07:33 |
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Thank :)
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17. September 2005 @ 12:12 |
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alkohol is a quick one~ :)
yes, you heard it from me as well, you got the REAL THING right there~ :) happy burning~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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drummer05
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12. January 2006 @ 16:33 |
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i bought some ty discs off ebay and they garunteed they are real but when i got them today the package says power burn dvd's..im not sure i want to open the package.......they look like ty's but are they real?????? POWER BURN..anyone ever heard of these?????
tahnks
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12. January 2006 @ 16:38 |
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Hmmm, E-Bay and off brand name, smells fishy, look at the area near the inner ring and see if you can read a number imprinted near the inner hub.
Mine say GD000321.
Hope that this helps you...(not powerburn but real TY's from www.supermediastore.com
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12. January 2006 @ 16:43 |
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the only way you gonna KNOW for sure is if you open it up and check for the inner hub coding on the discs themselves, while even i have never heard of "powerburn" brand before, they very well could use Taiyo Yuden as their OEM manufacturer...it IS a possibility...
unfortunately, that is the only way you can be CERTAIN...lastly, i wouldn't recommend buying media off ebay...that's a def. no no~! :)
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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dvdsoul
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12. January 2006 @ 16:59 |
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How about the code GG000077 on the inner hub of the disk? Are they real TY's? Checked the media id and it says TYG02. Does the code on the disc vary for TY's?
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12. January 2006 @ 17:12 |
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Yes, they are batch numbers used to track and keep tabs on quality control during the manufacturing process.
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12. January 2006 @ 17:13 |
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@dvdsoul
well, that coding DOES verify that you GOT REAL Taiyo Yudens, in terms of the coding ON THE DISC, yes, it DOES vary from disc to disc...the ones you got happen to be the earlier 8x DVD-R TYG02s, made quite some time ago...but, nevertheless, they are real~ :)
the GG000xxx (where xxx is the batch number of WHEN it was made...the lower the number, the earlier they were made...naturally, the larger the number, ie. xxxx being 1234 means it was manufactured more recently...natural progression you could say)... :)
the inner hub coding varies for ALL Taiyo Yudens, but is on EVERY SINGLE REAL/AUTHENTIC Taiyo Yuden...
4x DVD-R = GD000xxx
8x DVD-R = GG000xxx
8x DVD+R = TG000xxx
16x DVD-R = GH000xxx
16x DVD+R = don't know yet as my shipment of the 16x DVD+R with the YUDEN000T03 coding have not arrived yet...will update you guys once i get them in... :)
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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drummer05
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13. January 2006 @ 18:51 |
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checked em out they arr tg's wooohooo thank got
thanks guys
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13. January 2006 @ 19:09 |
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isn't that a sigh of relief drummer/? whew~! :)
docTY~ happy burning...
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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soygul
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1. February 2006 @ 05:21 |
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I just got this from an online shop, my first buy there.
Inner ring says GG000077, basically same as dvdsoul. But if these are that 'old', wouldn't it be weird they are still on the market? Or doesn't that matter and it's just real fo show :P
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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:TYG02]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD-R] - [DVD-R]
Manufacturer Name : [Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd.]
Manufacturer ID : [TYG02]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4.71 GB (4.38 GiB)]
** INFO : Hex Dump Of 'Media Code'-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding 'Media Code'-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 0Eh - Pre-Recorded Information In Lead-In
0000 : 01 40 c1 fd 9e d8 52 00 02 87 0d 10 66 78 80 00 .@....R.....fx..
0010 : 03 54 59 47 30 32 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .TYG02..........
0020 : 05 aa a2 22 22 20 02 00 06 08 0e 11 87 78 80 00 ..."" .......x..
0030 : 07 88 80 00 00 00 00 00 08 06 13 0d 10 0e 07 00 ................
0040 : 09 97 07 0d 0b 78 88 00 0a 80 00 00 00 00 10 00 .....x..........
0050 : 0b 06 18 17 85 78 75 00 0c d6 89 a8 92 01 20 00 .....xu....... .
0060 : 0d 10 00 d0 00 00 00 00 00 00 ..........
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dvdsoul
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1. February 2006 @ 05:55 |
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Maybe its some old stock. But so far no problems for me using those discs except that I can clearly see the rings on the recorded surface after I burn a disc. Not sure if its normal but the discs play fine and I also checked for CRC errors and no errors as well. Where did you buy those from? Supermediastore?
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1. February 2006 @ 17:51 |
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they juss "older stock" nothing wrong w/ em'~ :)
burn on !
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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Crazy098
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3. February 2006 @ 17:55 |
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What about this hub id:
1122T
Are these real?
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3. February 2006 @ 18:15 |
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NOPE, def. fake~ :) LOL
docTy~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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Crazy098
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4. February 2006 @ 12:37 |
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Yeah that's what I thought too. There's this seller on ebay selling these "TY"'s with the correct media code, but that as the hub id. I was reading his feedback and noticed that some people had something like 45 bad disks out of a pack of 50. I thought that was odd since I've burnt hundreds of TY's and only had 2 bad disks. Ever. (Those were ty-03 btw). Would it be ok to name the seller here so people know to stay away from the guy? I think that if people don't go through his feedback and do a little research, they might get scammed.
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4. February 2006 @ 13:58 |
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I think that your experience coupled with your lesson to read thru a seller's feedback before buying should educate people about the dangers of buying from an untrusted source, but then again, everytime I go into a store I see someone buying Memorex DVD disks...
Crazy098, join the club, I think most if not all of the AD veterans have purchased substandard media from time to time, and no matter how many people get on as many soapboxes as we can find, people will still buy cheap stuff.....
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Crazy098
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4. February 2006 @ 14:28 |
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I didn't buy them. I was thinking about it, but didn't. I asked the seller to send me a couple free just to check them out and he said ok. Haven't received them yet. I bought some crappy Riteks a while ago, most of them failed, and the ones that didn't are no longer readable (about 1yr old). Since then, all I've ever used are TY's.
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4. February 2006 @ 17:43 |
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btw: where do u guys recommad to buy media online? cheap and seletion
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4. February 2006 @ 17:56 |
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@crazy
go ahead and let us know the seller's name...that way, we can protect ourselves from the fakes...that would be a SERVICE to the afterdawn community, i don't see anything wrong w/ that~ :) if you get heat for it, then have the people bring up the issue with me personally...PM me and i will get it taken care of...
while i would never personally recommend people buy ANY media off ebay for this reason alone, it's better to be educated and informed when people DO decide to buy media on ebay; much like how you have done your research and decided NOT to buy from this particular seller. :)
@burningas
www.supermediastore.com would be my #1 choice...
www.rima.com would be my 2nd, but price shop a bit, sometimes rima.com sells the total SHIPPED product price cheaper than supermediastore, but when supermediastore has their sales, it's tough to beat the deal~ :)
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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