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11. August 2007 @ 19:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by abuzar1:
Mike, I think the 8600 Gt is a waste of money when its performance is a little less than the 7600 GT. BTW what kind of RAM is that. I mean like speed, and latency.
I just shop at canada computers, and all the 7600 are more money, the ram is 800MHz, and 5-5-5-12, (2.2v)

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11. August 2007 @ 19:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, they are about 80 at newegg. BTW that Crucial memory is 1000 Mhz, and people have it running at 4-4-4-12 timings at that speed. So I think that memory might be a better choice. Oh and if you are in Florida(or maybe it goes for the entire US) Tiger Direct charges you sales tax. To go around this shop at Global Computers, no tax there.
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11. August 2007 @ 19:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by abuzar1:
Ok, they are about 80 at newegg. BTW that Crucial memory is 1000 Mhz, and people have it running at 4-4-4-12 timings at that speed. So I think that memory might be a better choice. Oh and if you are in Florida(or maybe it goes for the entire US) Tiger Direct charges you sales tax. To go around this shop at Global Computers, no tax there.
How is there no tax? I would drive to the US just for that!

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11. August 2007 @ 19:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lol, well if you order it from them they don't charge you tax. If you have friends in the US you can get it shipped to them and go pick it up. I noticed things tend to be more expensive in Canada then in the US. I buy phones here sometimes and sell them in Canada. I usually make about a 100 dollars on each phone.

BTW that memory I was talking about, well I have the same one and I just changed the timings to 4-4-4-12 and so far so good. So it can run at these timings.
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12. August 2007 @ 01:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hehe, optional case fan? Most of the PCs I spec have at least three!
While I'm passionate about building PCs, I also like keeping them quiet. More fans actually equals less noise, if done right, because each fan can be slower.

I don't like Thermaltake fans. One of mine broke. How does a fan BREAK?
it stopped turning and then the connector got really hot. All attempts to power it out of the case gave the same result.

As for the self-build, I'm saying go with what Abuzar put down, but with this power supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...=Corsair%2b520W

I suppose to compete with the dell maybe we ought to add a quad core.


So then, here's what I recommend:

CPU:
EITHER
Core 2 Duo E6750 $212 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...15029&Tpk=E6750
OR Core 2 Quad Q6600 $295 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017

Motherboard: GA-965P-DS3 $110 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...BYTE-_-13128012

RAM: Corsair XMS2 PC6400 2GB $116 ($40 rebate)

Graphics card: GeForce 8800GTS $310 ($30 rebate, free game)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150173

Hard Drive: Samsung 500GB $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...Samsung%2b500GB

DVD-RW: Samsung $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151133

Case: NZXT Lexa Blackline $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...exa%2bBlackline

(Case is pretty much personal preference, go with something that can take, or has lots of 120mm fans)

PSU: Corsair $170 ($30 rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...=Corsair%2b620W

Floppy/card reader $19
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16821104104

Freezer 7 Pro cooler $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...eezer%2b7%2bPro

Arctic silver V $6
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007

That's $1228 or $1321 depending on which processor you get, but with $100 of rebates, and a free game you can probably ebay to get some additional cashback.



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12. August 2007 @ 04:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
Hehe, optional case fan? Most of the PCs I spec have at least three!
While I'm passionate about building PCs, I also like keeping them quiet. More fans actually equals less noise, if done right, because each fan can be slower.
It also depends on the case. I sometimes use aftermarket hsf and I am not counting the 2 80mm or 1 120mm fan the PSUs I use have.

Originally posted by sam:

I don't like Thermaltake fans. One of mine broke. How does a fan BREAK?
it stopped turning and then the connector got really hot. All attempts to power it out of the case gave the same result.

I had the same problem with the fan in a zalman cpu cooler, I need to find a 92mm fan to replace it.

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12. August 2007 @ 04:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nor me, I said 3 case fans. My PC has 7 fans in total, and my graphics card is fanless, and I have single fan power supply.



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12. August 2007 @ 05:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
Nor me, I said 3 case fans. My PC has 7 fans in total, and my graphics card is fanless, and I have single fan power supply.
what case are you using

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12. August 2007 @ 07:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
This one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...1146018


i just got this, do you think there is any way i can make a window on it?

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12. August 2007 @ 07:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This? I see no link...



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12. August 2007 @ 07:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
This? I see no link...
lol, i think i pasted it in the wrong window: http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=...9739&cid=CS.664

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12. August 2007 @ 07:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
With most cases, like the Matrix, you'll have to either find a windowed side that happens to be the right size (unlikely), or do the job yourself.

Typically, if you want a windowed case, you buy one.



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12. August 2007 @ 08:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
or do the job yourself.

I did that last time, and it when really bad. . . . really really bad!

I would have got this: http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=...9735&cid=CS.664

but it was more then what i wanted to spend

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12. August 2007 @ 08:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, then no window for you I'm afraid!

Specific Thermaltake cases do have 'window panel's you can buy but these are usually different windows for already windowed cases to allow the use of bigger fans.



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12. August 2007 @ 08:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Can we see the really bad window?
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12. August 2007 @ 08:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lol that's what I was going to ask!



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12. August 2007 @ 08:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by abuzar1:
Can we see the really bad window?
i would love to post a picture, but the thing fell off after a week, and the metal part it a total wreck (apoxy all over the back, sharp edges) Right now the computer has no side pannel (i know there is going to be lots of dust)

If I can find it i will post a picture of the metal part.

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12. August 2007 @ 08:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sounds like your handywork is as good as mine! :-)



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12. August 2007 @ 08:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You have no idea how bad mine is. Once in school I tried to make a neuron out of styrofoam, it turned out HORRIBLE. Hell I can post a pic of the remaining styrofoam.

I cant imagine working with metal.
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12. August 2007 @ 08:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lol, someone like me, hooray!



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12. August 2007 @ 08:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by abuzar1:
You have no idea how bad mine is. Once in school I tried to make a neuron out of styrofoam, it turned out HORRIBLE. Hell I can post a pic of the remaining styrofoam.

I cant imagine working with metal.
i cut my hand sooo many times when I was making it

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12. August 2007 @ 08:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh that sucks. I HATE the little cuts that don't bleed much but they are always there throbbing in pain.
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12. August 2007 @ 09:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
All you need to do is build a PC with a cheap case to get those...



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12. August 2007 @ 09:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Remember the beige cases that were full of SHARP corners.
 
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