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22. January 2008 @ 20:29 |
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oooh That's gonna be a bit over budget. Shaf, you sure you can't do some magic and make that 300? ;)
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22. January 2008 @ 21:16 |
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hell im hoping itll be under £300 in the UK.
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22. January 2008 @ 21:39 |
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Hopefully they won't try exchange rate trick.
BTW who is that in your Sig?
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22. January 2008 @ 21:59 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Sorry I have a 3850, but I though they had the same problems. If I try to use that BIOS, well "poof!" would describe what would happen.
I hate the fact that the 8800GT is a single slot! It could use the extra cooling.
what bios are you using? theres a fixed one for the hd3850's too I believe.
http://www.mvktech.net/component/option,...ctfolder/cat,1/ look there under your card manufacturer's name
if you want a copy of winflash (ati's version) pm me
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23. January 2008 @ 00:00 |
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Thanks for the thought, but keeping it at 55% is fine with me. I don't want to void my warranty either.
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23. January 2008 @ 05:01 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Hopefully they won't try exchange rate trick.
BTW who is that in your Sig?
its the middlesbrough football club logo,(who i support) but with didier Drogba on it, who's the best player ever.
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23. January 2008 @ 07:05 |
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If the card's $450 in the US, it'll be between £240 and £270 in the UK.
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23. January 2008 @ 14:23 |
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thats what i thought. even if its near the high end of that, its about the same price of Xfire 3870s, and has better results than them.
if ati dont realese anything more highend, (or even nvidia) by end aug, early sept, its going in my uni rig. :D)
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23. January 2008 @ 15:04 |
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haha "uni rig" - that's exactly how my PC was born.
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23. January 2008 @ 15:10 |
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It seems that ATI has finally taken the crown on the most powerful card again. That is until the 9800GTX comes out...
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23. January 2008 @ 23:33 |
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24. January 2008 @ 08:04 |
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heh, the 9800GX2 versus the HD3870X2, well that's basically an SLI vs Crossfire match isn't it? Somehow I'm thinking the SLI version is going to win... THG posted a recent article on how Crossfire fares up in PCIe 2.0 versus SLI. The results are just as appalling for CF as I remember.
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24. January 2008 @ 10:57 |
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xfire is not crap. most games support it very well. you really have to stop putting it down. :( :P
Sli is in the same catagory, just that xfire scales MUCH better than Sli, as it is newer technology, and can be updated easily per card, seeing as it relies on drivers, unlike SLi which is hardware focused.
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24. January 2008 @ 11:13 |
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I would love Crossfire to be good, I really would. it's an ideal way of solving the slump in new advances in graphics. Trouble is though, it really isn't. In the games it works in, it now scales excellently, but those games are too small in number to make the additional expense worthwhile.
Have a look at this
http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/23/c...ts_pci_express/
Let's see, in Blacksite Area 51 crossfire doesn't work at all.
In Call of Duty 4, the results are hardly mindblowing for either platform, around 20-25% at best, down to 10% at high resolutions.
In Crysis, it doesn't work at all according to the article. I'm dubious of that, but either way, if tom's couldn't get it to work, it can't be that easy to do!
In Doom 3, SLi scales pretty well, up to 60% at high resolutions, and even then it's presumably only limited by the CPU, since the frame rate is well over 100 even at the highest resolution tested. Crosfie on the other hand does, in the words of Adam Savage, "bupkiss".
What about Half-Life 2 episode 2? An important game in the minds of most true PC gamers. Well, the CPU ceiling is a pretty low 75fps, so it's hard to test, but the results are promising, around 40% improvement for the 3850, potentially could be higher due to the ceiling, so we have one game that crossfire benefits from. Or do we? I played HL2:E2 at 2560x1600 on max detail on my single X1900XT, it ran alright. If the game's smooth without crossfire, there's no need for it here.
How about Flight sim X? A bit of a disappointing turnout for ATi here. The ATi drivers induce a CPu ceiling of only 25fps. In addition to that, the gains from crossfire are nil, when it works at all. In PCie2.0 mode, it doesn't.
Lastly, World in Conflict, a demanding but superb game, I'd love crossfire to work here. Notice that when Anti-Aliasing is introduced, crossfire fails completely. That's not good, I like my AA. Additionally, the few tests that did pass show zero improvement, and since all the ATi cards are already slower than all the nvidia cards, the game is pretty much an nvidia only zone.
I fail to see how anybody can be impressed with crossfire after reading that article. It's a real shame, as I like CF as a platform, but the benchmarks don't lie, it's completely useless.
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24. January 2008 @ 11:37 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
.........I fail to see how anybody can be impressed with crossfire after reading that article. It's a real shame, as I like CF as a platform, but the benchmarks don't lie, it's completely useless.
Well that's disappointing to say the least. My mobo supports CF but I don't know if I'll ever take advantage of it. ;) Is this lack of improvement due to the abilities of the video card or the lack of support from games and game creators? I know almost nothing on this subject so a quick learning curve may be in order. :)
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24. January 2008 @ 11:51 |
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24. January 2008 @ 11:58 |
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A bit more impressive. Makes you wonder what drivers THG used to mess up so badly...
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24. January 2008 @ 12:03 |
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yeah. and this review was in DEC 5th. so wonder the better results it would have now
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24. January 2008 @ 14:20 |
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Of course the burning question is, will the 3870X2 give similar results? I won't be buying a new motherboard any time soon, so I'm limited to a single graphics card.
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24. January 2008 @ 14:23 |
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im sure it will be betetr, as there will be no bandwidth linit betwenn the pcie lanes and the xfire connector. because that is all internal now
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24. January 2008 @ 14:27 |
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true, but it means one PCI express 16x connector has to run two cards. Given the peformance of one of the cards running at 4x rather than 16x though, I doubt that's much of an issue, the performance drop was something like 10%. If each card gets 8x, it's probably going to be negligible.
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24. January 2008 @ 14:28 |
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http://www.bhfo.org/news/news-articles/h...ked-r680-5.html
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Due to irregularities presented by the inefficient drivers, the real performance of the new HD3870X2 is stunted. It also makes it hard to judge the AA and AF performance differences in the cards. Despite this abnormality, AMD-ATi still manages to outperform NVIDIA overall, and they may be the new leaders. Whether or not the 9800X2 will be able to compete is in the balance. It will be especially difficult to match the 449USD price point that ATi set. If AMD can optimize their code before the NVIDIA launch, they have a legitimate chance at maintaining their pole position.
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24. January 2008 @ 14:57 |
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Shaffaaf,
From what I'm seeing it seems that the HD 3870x2 suffers more than the 8800 Ultra does when all the eye candy is turned on in most games. The performance hit seems fairly high. I also notice that the HD 3870x2 is kind of fussy as to what resolution you use for what game. It's CrossFire doesn't seem to work all that well, as the percentage of improvement is marginal at best over the 8800 Ultra. The HD 3870x2 may be the fastest card, but it should come with an * on that one, as not everything runs faster in the real world! We'll see what nVidia brings to the table in the coming weeks!
Best Regards,
Russ
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24. January 2008 @ 15:35 |
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Might want to make those images links, they're vast!
I'm loving those benchmarks. As for Crysis, even the 8800 ultra isn't fast enough to make it playable at a decent resolution, so I'm not so interested in that test anyway. Bioshock and COD4 are games I liked though, so the good results are very pleasing.
In fact, by sheer coincidence the games I play out of that list are all the games where the ATI card fares best!
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24. January 2008 @ 17:54 |
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sammorris,
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In fact, by sheer coincidence the games I play out of that list are all the games where the ATI card fares best!
I would take that to mean the ATi would be best for your needs, so for you a perfect choice! In other games with all the eye candy turned on, it's a different story. Like I said, Ati can claim the crown, but only with an *! I would like to see another match up once they get all the bugs out of the drivers and bios firmware. There's just got to be so much untapped potential there. Either that or it will become a 1 hit wonder, and back to the drawing board for ATi!
Best Regards,
Russ
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