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The current 45nm Bloomfield/Core i7 will get a boost early next year when Intel introduces the 32nm Gulftown. Gulftown will feature six cores with HyperThreading for a total of 12 threads exposed to the OS. It will come in LGA1366 and is expected ? but not guaranteed ? to work in most of today?s Core i7 motherboards. A new chipset will be introduced alongside it and supersede the X58 chipset. Clock speeds, cache sizes were not announced but it will include (as will all Westmere-based CPUs) include new instructions to accelerate encryption/decryption. There have been rumors that Intel would bring its Nehalem EX chip, which will feature eight cores with HyperThreading, but it?s unlikely with Gulftown on tap. Nehalem EX will likely live only in servers and workstations.

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LGA-1156 to last six months to a year
One of our sources have been telling us that the yet to be launched LGA-1156 socket from Intel might be very short lived, as its set to be replaced by a new socket that that is is called LGA-1156B which will among other things add IGP support. This is set to launch in early 2010 and will be followed by another socket called LGA-1156C at a later stage.
This is going to be a big concern for early adopters that are waiting to leave their Core 2 based system behind, but don't want to spend the kind of money that the Core i7 platform costs. Not only is the CPU socket a problem, but as we have reported, the P55 chipset might in itself not support certain future CPUs, even if Intel were to make a few SKUs that works with the original LGA-1156 platform.
We're also hearing rumours that the Braidwood Turbo Memory modules won't appear on retail P55 products, as Intel might be keeping this for the P57 and H57 chipsets, as well as some mobile chipsets. This is truly a mess and we hope Intel will clarify things, as not only will they lose customer confidence by doing this, but it will also tick off their partners that might end up with stock of motherboards that no-one will want to buy.
It's not the first time Intel have done something like this, the original Pentium 4 didn't live for long either, but by now we thought Intel had learnt its lesson, but it seems like we were wrong.

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Originally posted by Lp531:

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It's not looking good for a broad choice of CPU's for X-58 boards...no guarantees for the next 32nm chips to work with X-58...that blows...What is Intel thinking making this many choices of sockets...This is making me regret even going with the i7 chips if this is what they are going to pull...Stupid move Intel...
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http://www.maximumpc.com/article/feature..._cpus_this_year

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The current 45nm Bloomfield/Core i7 will get a boost early next year when Intel introduces the 32nm Gulftown. Gulftown will feature six cores with HyperThreading for a total of 12 threads exposed to the OS. It will come in LGA1366 and is expected ? but not guaranteed ? to work in most of today?s Core i7 motherboards. A new chipset will be introduced alongside it and supersede the X58 chipset. Clock speeds, cache sizes were not announced but it will include (as will all Westmere-based CPUs) include new instructions to accelerate encryption/decryption. There have been rumors that Intel would bring its Nehalem EX chip, which will feature eight cores with HyperThreading, but it?s unlikely with Gulftown on tap. Nehalem EX will likely live only in servers and workstations.

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LGA-1156 to last six months to a year
One of our sources have been telling us that the yet to be launched LGA-1156 socket from Intel might be very short lived, as its set to be replaced by a new socket that that is is called LGA-1156B which will among other things add IGP support. This is set to launch in early 2010 and will be followed by another socket called LGA-1156C at a later stage.
This is going to be a big concern for early adopters that are waiting to leave their Core 2 based system behind, but don't want to spend the kind of money that the Core i7 platform costs. Not only is the CPU socket a problem, but as we have reported, the P55 chipset might in itself not support certain future CPUs, even if Intel were to make a few SKUs that works with the original LGA-1156 platform.
We're also hearing rumours that the Braidwood Turbo Memory modules won't appear on retail P55 products, as Intel might be keeping this for the P57 and H57 chipsets, as well as some mobile chipsets. This is truly a mess and we hope Intel will clarify things, as not only will they lose customer confidence by doing this, but it will also tick off their partners that might end up with stock of motherboards that no-one will want to buy.
It's not the first time Intel have done something like this, the original Pentium 4 didn't live for long either, but by now we thought Intel had learnt its lesson, but it seems like we were wrong.

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Link:
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option...12341&Itemid=35

@Rob
Try Linux Mint...probably the easiest version of Linux to use...
Download Linux Mint 6 Felicia Main Edition
http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php

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Originally posted by rick5446:

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Computer acts like its locked, but all other open programs R Working.

DVD SHRINK and DVDFab won't open, but show up in Task Manger. But won't close either through TASK MANAGER Processes. Does this seem to be a fault in WinXP or Hardware problem. I've never run into this B4, they just seem to B Locked

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Originally posted by creaky:

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...nice try, but not unless they're given away free to poor people :)

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rob, the problem you are having i ran into on a customer's brand new pc. tried to load xp & got the blue csreen of death, eventually found out i had a bad stick of ram which i did not have a spare 1 at the time so delayed me a day til got it replaced. after i got windows loaded i found i had a bad videocard so that had to be replaced so the computer ran on a 1meg pci videocard til rplacement came in & no problem since in about 2yrs.

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rob, the problem you are having i ran into on a customer's brand new pc. tried to load xp & got the blue csreen of death, eventually found out i had a bad stick of ram which i did not have a spare 1 at the time so delayed me a day til got it replaced. after i got windows loaded i found i had a bad videocard so that had to be replaced so the computer ran on a 1meg pci videocard til rplacement came in & no problem since in about 2yrs.

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We can now confirm that the X58 platform is here to stay. Intel plans to release a new six-core 32nm CPU next year, and the good news is that this chip will continue to support its X58 chipset.
The socket should be the same, LGA 1366, and a 32nm six-core should make for a good high end CPU. The question that Intel cannot officially confirm is if the Gulftown 32nm CPU will work in all existing X58 boards.
The problem is that Intel still doesn?t have the final silicon and that it needs to do a validation with the existing X58 infrastructure. If the motherboard manufacturers used Intel?s design guidelines, they should be fine. But there is no assurance that your X58 motherboard purchased in 2008 or 2009 will work with Gulftown.

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Originally posted by Lp531:

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@omegaman7
I use both Intel and AMD...AMD has done the same with Socket 939...Socket 940...If your not going to fully support a particular socket for at least some length of time...Don't release it...You are just ripping your customer off...

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gm, both were bad but could still use videocard without using it's drivers as it caused windows to lockup. the videocard actually had hardware issue in that there was spots all over the post screen that was not there in the windows screen. either the videocard cpu was screwing up or more likely was bad ram module. as both were still under warranty, i got them replaced.

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Originally posted by Lp531:

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@Russ,
I just hope that the Gulftown's will be compatible like they initially let on...I was just hoping for a quad that was only producing about a 100 watts like my Q9450...I guess I will have to settle for a (6) core processor instead...
Me Likey how that sounds...}:)

Link:
http://www.madshrimps.be/vbulletin/f22/i...erboards-61969/

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We can now confirm that the X58 platform is here to stay. Intel plans to release a new six-core 32nm CPU next year, and the good news is that this chip will continue to support its X58 chipset.
The socket should be the same, LGA 1366, and a 32nm six-core should make for a good high end CPU. The question that Intel cannot officially confirm is if the Gulftown 32nm CPU will work in all existing X58 boards.
The problem is that Intel still doesn?t have the final silicon and that it needs to do a validation with the existing X58 infrastructure. If the motherboard manufacturers used Intel?s design guidelines, they should be fine. But there is no assurance that your X58 motherboard purchased in 2008 or 2009 will work with Gulftown.

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The i7 will still be a beast...I guess I shouldn't complain...for the price I couldn't have done any better...I'm with Sam...No reason for another 775 build...there is really nothing in that field I don't have covered right now...
I can't wait to see the new case...I am really excited about this build..:)

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The only i7 owner I know here, is Nucknfuts, and I'm very disappointed that he hasn't showcased his system here yet, as requested by Sam and I! He didn't even respond to either request! I know that if I had built one, you wouldn't have to twist my arm! He must know that everyone here is dying to see what core i7 can do in the hands of a member, especially a member with such high overclocking skills! Come on Nuck! Give us what we want to see! Please!

Best Regards,
Russ

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Originally posted by cincyrob:

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well its up and running fine right now.it wasnt the mem,wasnt the ram..it was the crappy mobo.

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