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14. February 2008 @ 07:35 |
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Blimey, that's an impressive amount of connectors. Two gigabit ports would be nice, I've had to install a Belkin PCI card to directly network my server. The S-ATA ports aren't really that much of a necessity on my main PC, I just wish I had a board with that many for my server - thing is, it seems pointless buying a full on gaming motherboard for a PC that doesn't have a graphics accelerator in it most of the time, it doesn't even need onboard graphics!
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14. February 2008 @ 11:02 |
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i have heard it thru the grapevine that intle have stopped shipping the duo wolfdales to uk retailers due to manufactoring defect and they will only be back in stock around the 11th of next month.
not the news i was looking for after i just told my mate to stick his q66 on fleabay as i was going to get a 8400, well still am.
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14. February 2008 @ 11:03 |
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It's possible but I've heard this before, it's more often than not "we didn't make enough".
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14. February 2008 @ 11:27 |
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I'll chase up Scan, as they are supposed to be giving updates if anything changes on the order ie. major delay.
My order is still sat in 'paid but not picked' status at the moment.
If its going to be that long, I think I'll change the order to the Q9450, as that is supposed to out about a week after that.
I've not heard any reports from users who either got the first UK batch, or chips from the States, Do you have any more detail of what exactly the problem is?
I also see OC'ers UK are still apparently in stock 10+, it's been saying that for quite a while, either they have no issues with their stock, or they never had any to start with, and have been taking the orders and expecting to get away with it?
If anyone has managed to order and take delivery of an E8400 from Overclockers UK post 12th Feb let me know 'cheers'
I also popped another 2GB of Dominator 8500C5 in my basket at the same time £61 INC VAT (too good to be ignored) thats a third of the price I paid for my set I already own 'shows how times have changed with DDR2'
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14. February 2008 @ 11:38 |
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With overclockers I'd assume the latter. I've placed a lot of orders with them where the item apparently went out of stock after I ordered it, but too shortly afterwards for me to actually get what I asked for. The OcUK stock on their site is manually updated (It baffles me why) so if 20 people order something in a day, if there were only 6 there, tough luck for 14 of you, your order will either be cancelled or won't get dispatched until some real stock actually arrives.
I agree on the DDR2, my first set of PC6400C4 XMS2 cost me £135 from Dabs in January. The latter set I bought last month was £30, and it's only £40 new...
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14. February 2008 @ 12:52 |
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if they do have the stock, then they are stingy....with £164 tag.
but then again, you pay premium for the onyl shop in the uk ot have stock.
i webnote them, and they said, once more stock is available, ie freely in scan, ebyer, etc, they will reduce the price to under £130, which is just off the E6750 :)
EDIT, called about stock, and they said they have quite a lot in stock.
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14. February 2008 @ 14:38 |
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no details just that they had stopped shipping stock till it has been fixxed, could be related to the temp sensor but thats just my guess.
i want a new proc to play with, hhmm an old p4 sounds like it might be a good idea :D
tell me about it with the price of ddr2, about this time last year 2gb of cas4 ddr800 cost me £180 ush and i just bought 4gb of cas5 ddr100 for £60.
you all seen the news about ageia physx on a gpu? another reason to buy a second gpu.
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14. February 2008 @ 15:55 |
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I've seen the reported problems with the sensors, it appears that they show the temps are too high even at stock, but the people I've seen reporting it have been Asus users and they don't mention what they are using to do the readings, I've found plenty of issues with PC Probe so I never install it on my Asus PCs anymore, core temp is far more reliable, so is Everest
Scan still showing the E8400 as awaiting stock, so have cancelled that order and ordered the E8500 instead, should give a bit more to play with, even if it is an extra 0.5 multi.
That now isn't due to turn up until monday as I wasn't going to pay over £20 postage for Saturday delivery.
I finished lapping my 630 tonight and the mobo is all sealed ready to fix the phase head, my bits haven't turned up so I can't fit it yet.
My voltage mods and cap mod are all working, so no sparks seen on latest power-up after doing them.
I'm keeping a log on the latest efforts as well this time around so I can post some info if anyone needs it if they tread down the road of phase cooling.
Once or if I've mastered the art, I intend to build the whole system into a V2000 or V2100 case, so the water cooling and phase are all inside, pretty much like the big cube I built but hopefully a more usable system that doesn't take up half my desk.
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14. February 2008 @ 16:28 |
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i know there the only ones in stock but fu(k me
£176.24
E8400
OMFG!!!
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14. February 2008 @ 16:51 |
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£11 under the E8500, plus their shipping rates are one of the highest.
It about sums that place up, but if 'big if' people are stupid enough to pay the prices they are charging, then they deserve to get ripped off.
I don't trust a word they say either, I bought the P5WD2 as a b-grade from there, I phoned and asked if it had the IO shield, they said all their b-grade boards came with IO shields.
When it didn't I phoned to be told that they would never say that, as they never come with IO shields, the board was cheap anyway so I didn't take it any further, but it's the last time i ever deal with them as they are just a bunch of *$%****^5%4$ 'please fill in your own description'
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14. February 2008 @ 17:00 |
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tbh, the stuff i have bought has never been more expensive than other places. i get it normally next day, even though its meant to be 2-5 days. and postage for the bigger and heavier items is fair, btu for lesser items, if you buy them their self, is crap.
and i havent had a bad experiance with them.
yes their prices for some stuff if crap, but for others, well for my purchases, have been stop on.
PS never buy B grade in the first place :P
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14. February 2008 @ 17:29 |
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BigDK,
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I've seen the reported problems with the sensors, it appears that they show the temps are too high even at stock, but the people I've seen reporting it have been Asus users and they don't mention what they are using to do the readings, I've found plenty of issues with PC Probe so I never install it on my Asus PCs anymore, core temp is far more reliable, so is Everest
I tried the CPUID that someone posted earlier and it's not as accurate as Everest 4.0 Corporate edition which is spot on! I think it has to do with the different methodology in how the sensors are read. Voltages are far more accurate, as well. I get a bit suspicious when I don't see the numbers move at all! LOL!! As far as Core temps vs CPU temp, the difference is the ability of your CPU cooler to remove the heat from the CPU, faster than the cores can make it! Under full load the numbers are a lot closer!
I always had problems running SpeedFan or Sandra for system Information on the last 2 Asus boards. PC Probe was better! Then someone gave me a copy of Everest Beta Edition 3.86 and I could read the information with it. Sandra Professional Business XIB doesn't read everything properly on my DS3R either. Some of the voltages are way off! The 12v reads 2.06v, while the Everest 4.20 Corporate Edition reads it at 12.26v, the actual voltage value which I've confirmed and are accurate to 2-4 hundredths of a volt!
Best Regards,
Russ
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14. February 2008 @ 17:50 |
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Shaff: They said they do, but since when does that mean anything? They say they offer next day delivery, that's only true half the time.
I don't mean to be unduely unfair to a retailer, but OcUK are very close to the bottom in terms of my success with them as a seller compared to all the other places I've used. I've done business with ebuyer, Aria and Scan more for each than I have with OcUK, and it has to be said you get fewer issues. Scan and Ebuyer are sometimes late with deliveries too, but at least they tell you. With overclockers you just have to wait and hope it turns up.
As for physics on the graphics card, I'll wait for the benches thanks very much... especially since I need a second board to get two PCIe 16x slots, that and the fact that I need an nvidia chipset, after having had two fail on me, no thanks.
BigDK: I couldn't agree more. The forum is a sham as well. It's for the reasons that you mention that I avoid B grade stuff. It's essentially the same as buying from ebay. If what you get isn't what you want, tough luck!
Russ: Perhaps unsurprisingly, Speedfan will bluescreen all recent DFI boards. DFIStreet says it's because the program's incompatible apparently!
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rvinkebob
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14. February 2008 @ 19:35 |
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Hey everyone. It's been a while since I've done CPU OC'ing so I may have forgotten a few things. Just needed to ask, is it possible to unlock the multiplier on my ASUS K8V-X mobo? I've heard of custom BIOS' and desoldering pins on the board but I haven't found anything about my board. I need it since I remember last time I tried to OC, my memory was getting screwed and the PC locked up occasionally with a BSOD so I assume a higher multiplier will help keeping the FSB low. I also haven't found any direct memory speed selectors either so it just uses the FSB.
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14. February 2008 @ 20:28 |
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I don't know about the unlocking multi on the Motherboard.
Are you sure it had no memory multi settings? That seems weird.
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rvinkebob
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14. February 2008 @ 23:25 |
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Unfortunately, there is no multiplier for anything. The memory is a measly DDR400 so I'm limited to 200MHz FSB or lower if I don't want memory lock ups and the only way to OC is to obviously raise the FSB. I know that this processor can go up from 1.8GHz to 2.3GHz without a problem but it's the stupid FSB that's constricting me. I would rather have slower memory by a margin and a much faster CPU frequency than a overspeed memory and a fast CPU frequency as it's much more stable and still fast.
All I want is a 11x-12x multi so I would have 200 for FSB and 2.2GHz-2.4GHz CPU.
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15. February 2008 @ 02:50 |
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First off, you want to utilize the down dividers for RAM so you can up the FSB. This is the VIA KT800 (not the "Pro") chipset so it has no unlink, you must choose a preset for either DDR333 or less to keep RAM under DDR400 when overclocked. The mobo allows the CPU unlock if the CPU does, and if so stick to the evens of 10, 9 8 etc as the .5's change something in the CPU/RAM ratio and end DDR and FSB speed. I never realy overclocked on VIA but I know they can to a bit. Most the s754's I had to play with wern't the best of overclockers even on good ASUS mobos and a lot of budget CPU's were locked anyways. If you must stay on s754, I'd at least would have opt'd for an nForce4 for that time. I had better luck with them, especially the SLI versions, but then I never stuck with Athlon 64 for socket 754. I'm sure others here can share their OC experiences with that socket and chipset.
Good luck.
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rvinkebob
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15. February 2008 @ 04:31 |
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So in other words, change the DDR limit to something below DDR400, right? If so, I've done that before, all the way to DDR200 which is the lowest it would go and that was the only speed that the computer would boot on with my raised FSB. Still it took a week before the BSOD and I'm worried it might happen again if I redo this.
BTW, if my memory doesn't support 166*2 (DDR333) or any other and the limit is set to it, is it possible that this could be causing the lock ups and memory errors? Just wondering since one stick of RAM support 133,166,200 while the other doesn't support 133.
Thanks for all the help and I wish I had an nForce board right now. I upgrade my PC every five years and I still have another two to go. I'm not that demanding with speed anyways so it doesn't really bother me. My next board will definitely be the latest nForce, perhaps 8 if they come out with it in 2010.
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15. February 2008 @ 04:34 |
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Having a non matched pair of memory sticks is going to add another area of instability, if you are determined to OC this system you may want to replace the memory with a matched pair or at least get an extra stick that matches the best one you have, and remove the other from the system.
You should also download memtest and you can then test the memory settings at low level through dos 'you need a floppy drive' easiest method although there is also an ISO version now.
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rvinkebob
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15. February 2008 @ 05:30 |
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Well the funny thing is they're exactly the same models but the chips were made differently. One was made by Kingston as well as the chips, and the other was made by Kingston with the exact same model but the chip was made by Nanya and the stick looks different as well. I've had it for quite some time now.
As for OC'ing, I currently limited ram to DDR333 and set the FSB to 244 and am getting 2.2GHz freq (from my old 1.8GHz) and my ram is at exactly 200MHz like before. I also changed my HT speed since I was thinking that this may have been an issue as well. I changed it from 800MHz to 600MHz but with the OC, the HT speed is 732MHz which is fine for me. I know that both sticks have the ability to do DDR333 so I assumed it would be fine.
Also, I should probably mention that I'm using cpu-z to report all this info. It's been very handy for me.
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15. February 2008 @ 06:58 |
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Nanya chips are awful in my experience, it's probably low quality memory that's causing your BSODs. Using a pair of proper Kingston chips you could probably use the same settings and not get the Blue screen.
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15. February 2008 @ 15:44 |
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My E8500 is now not happening, even though stock was still showing as in, they are now out of stock until next month.
Have binned that order and have now pre-ordered the Q9450 as it should be in at the same time.
Finally got my phase cooler fired up in anger again on the P5WD2, run number 3 had the P4 650 running at 5.1GHZ 300x17, so the volt mods are now starting to do their tricks as I couldn't get that high a fsb before.
Will start doing some bench tests tomorrow hopefully, picking up a new puppy in the morning so will likely get distracted.
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15. February 2008 @ 17:49 |
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I daresay that's a worthy distraction! :)
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15. February 2008 @ 18:13 |
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Failing Orthos after 30 mins ao far, need to do some tweakingwith the settings to get it stable and then see exactly how far I can push it, hopefully over 5.5GHz.
This also shows the difference in core technology performance, even at 5.1GHz it doesn't beat my E6600 at stock speed 2.4GHz at 1M SuperPi.
Main point though isn't benching, but perfecting the art of insulation, which touch wood seems to be okay this time around.
Diode can't handle the extreme temps either is every tool is reading +121'C 'get the eggs ready'
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rvinkebob
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15. February 2008 @ 18:23 |
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