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20. February 2008 @ 22:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
bottlenecks are a pita, my 76gt wasnt a great clocker only hitting 640/1680 but when i changed from a 3400+@2.5ghz to a e4300 i gained about an extra 15%. that was on a last gen gpu, if i run mine at stock speeds atm i would get about9k in 3d06 but if i oced my gpu i might get a 1k in points but ocing my cpu as well has me hitting over 14k and as of yet im still not sure if they found the point at which cpus stop bottlenecking current gen gpus.

quite relavent really, what kind of proc power will you need to power 3 or 4 g cards in pcie 2. slots with out starving them of the info they need???

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21. February 2008 @ 01:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
3DMark06 is quite CPU dependant in its scores, as such it does not always give a true reflection in real gaming performance, although it does show how likely you are to suffer CPU bottlenecking.

Changing from an E6600 @3.6Ghz to a Q6600 at same speed took my score up over 2K to 17.5K in 3D06, but real frame rate increases in games has been nothing at all to warrant the upgrade.

One thing to note though, I do play all games max'd out in quality and size 'if they go to 2560x1600, thats what they get set to' maybe there are different gains seen at lower resolutions, bit I haven't tested for them.


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Well that's exactly it, as you can see from the frame rate the 3dmark test pulls when running rhe CPU test, it doesn't exactly replicate a real world environment for the test. If, on the theoretical side of things you had an infinitely fast CPU, 3dmark would effectively give you an infinite score based on that fact, even though the GPU would limit your game performance. Additionally, as BigDK says, when you game at such high resolutions, your CPU limit isn't really top of your list of priorities.



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I have a related subject question. Who has experience with loss data to to check disc errors or file corruption. Not just for files deleted my me to recycle, files damaged by crash and or deleted by check disc fail.

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21. February 2008 @ 21:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Don't know if this link is of any help, for I haven't had the need for any of these utilities, but.....

http://www.download.com/3120-20_4.html?q...g=srch&tg=dl-20
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First of all hi to theonejrs! long time! I just put the q-6600 in my system oc'd to 3.2 and temps are running at 25c. does that sound right? system seems to be stable.

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I just put the q-6600 in my system oc'd to 3.2 and temps are running at 25c. does that sound right? system seems to be stable.

Sounds fine to me! How's it run? Better yet, how do you like it? I don't know what MB or memory or anything like that you have, but the 25C sounds very good! Doesn't sound like you had to struggle to get it there!

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23. February 2008 @ 08:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Run the PC in Orthos for half an hour or so and see what the temps reach. The killer with the quads is the load temperature, of course.



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@ AMD guys, What kind of OC'n can I get out of these Phenom Agena 9600's? I have an extra ThermalRight Ultra 120 to drop on it if need be, if they get hot like the 6400+ BE.

I am still on the 3yo nV590 ASUS CROSSHAIR but with new BIOS for Phenom so not sure if it's gonna' be as good if on a new nv7x. I will likely grab one here shortly to keep on DDR2.

Wow, 3yrs, that sounds old. As you can see,I don't usually upgrade my AMD side as often. Not since s939. How long do we have left on AM2 before we need a new socket?

EDIE: Oh ya, what kind of volts are you guys using on the x2 6400 BE to hold 3.5? Mine needs 1.52v fro a 1.19v vdroop under load. Is this fair for AMD. It does get nice and hot for the 9700 Zalman both lapped to eachother. What is too warm for these cores? I think it was pushing 63c last time under load at only 3.45GHz.

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23. February 2008 @ 16:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well I know that Phenom Agena 9600 Black Edition only does 2.6ghz to 2.7. You know the Q6600 is such a better choice as it OCs so much more and is only 10 dollars more.
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ok...went in an had a mess about in the bios..set the cpu fsb frequency up to 300,using ATITOOL 0.27 to check on things..

Core is sittin at - 796.00
memory - 693.00

fan speed is 47%
GPU temp is 43

i have no idea if this is a good or a bad thing...

my cpu was 1.8...its now sittin at 2.7
Im pretty new to all this an dont really wanna wreck my pc,lol
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23. February 2008 @ 18:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What CPU and Graphics card are you using?
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23. February 2008 @ 18:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by abuzar1:
What CPU and Graphics card are you using?
MSI P35 Neo2-FR iP35 Socket 775 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard

PowerColor HD2600XT 512mb DDR3 128bit DVI PCI-E

Intel E2160 Socket 775 Pentium Dual Core 2x1.8Ghz 800FSB

+ 4 gig of ram
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23. February 2008 @ 19:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't know much about the 2600XT's clock speed, but your CPU clock speed is pretty good. You might get past 3Ghz on that CPU.

What are your CPU temps?
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23. February 2008 @ 19:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by abuzar1:
I don't know much about the 2600XT's clock speed, but your CPU clock speed is pretty good. You might get past 3Ghz on that CPU.

What are your CPU temps?
im not sure,is there a program i can use to check (instead of bios)
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You can try HW Monitor.

http://www.hmonitor.net/
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23. February 2008 @ 20:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I noticed this turned more toward a GPU Overclocking tread so maybe somebody here can help.

My m8 has old PC with dual nV6600-GT's and one is not working correctly on its own as a single primary. Also when tested in my 590i ASUS P5N32-SLI it rendered with a white line down the left edge about 1" in from left side. It was the 2nd card and I dont have this mobo anymore to test as single primary.

It can install fine, load to XP x64 SP2 but as soon as I install firmware for it (this was back in Feb of last year - first of 9x series) it would not allow me to open up many type of media video files without crashing and restart. It happened on both the ASUS A8N-SLI nV-NF4-SLI as single, in each slot, and on Abit AW9D MAX !975X ATI Crossfire in each slot. This was a year ago but woudering if this was noted or been worked around or an issue with this model. I never had it happen with my , then, 7900 and older 6800 Ultra's. They belong to a friend and he cant find the receipt for RMA and they are PNY. I'd like to give him an extra mobo but he needs to have this card work on either one. Can they be firmware flashed like back with the old nV-MX4000's from LeadTek and others?

Any thoughts or ideas?

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Originally posted by inkleach:
Originally posted by abuzar1:
I don't know much about the 2600XT's clock speed, but your CPU clock speed is pretty good. You might get past 3Ghz on that CPU.

What are your CPU temps?
im not sure,is there a program i can use to check (instead of bios)
I use core temp, and Everest, bot give good results and the latter is useful for testing as well.

I presume your system is the one that you built from the list provided.

How did everything go, and have you played any games yet?


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24. February 2008 @ 04:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by BigDK:
Originally posted by inkleach:
Originally posted by abuzar1:
I don't know much about the 2600XT's clock speed, but your CPU clock speed is pretty good. You might get past 3Ghz on that CPU.

What are your CPU temps?
im not sure,is there a program i can use to check (instead of bios)
I use core temp, and Everest, bot give good results and the latter is useful for testing as well.

I presume your system is the one that you built from the list provided.

How did everything go, and have you played any games yet?

It went pretty good man,had a little help from one of my pals in the end tho.
Not played anythin too demanding,running stalker with everythin maxed out tho.
Yeah the system is the one i built just recently,just tryin to get that little extra kick outta it tho
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ok,using core temp...

Tj Max - 85C
core #0 - between 28-30C
core # - between 28-30C

thats before ive tweaked anything
How far, safely, do u think i can push it?
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You will be able to get it to 3.0GHz without any issues
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Depending on the the board and cpu you may get away with default voltage.

The E2160 is rated at the following voltages 0.85V ? 1.5V

That CPU should get all the way up to 3.6GHz on that board, but that is going to require some good cooling on the CPU.

As suggested by Sammorris, use Orthos to strain the system, this will show the max temps under a controlled stress test and also show if its stable.

Thermal Specification: 61.4°C as stated by Intel.

At 333x9 you'll have to either use a divider on the memory (P35/X38) seem very good at this) and take it up to or just over 6400.

You can then either tighten or relax the memory timings, I would just use 1:1 for now with slack timings and concentrate on getting the CPU and board stable.

A good read on your board is here: (Courtesy of Xtremesystems)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=161618





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24. February 2008 @ 06:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by BigDK:
You will be able to get it to 3.0GHz without any issues
333x9
Depending on the the board and cpu you may get away with default voltage.

The E2160 is rated at the following voltages 0.85V ? 1.5V

That CPU should get all the way up to 3.6GHz on that board, but that is going to require some good cooling on the CPU.

As suggested by Sammorris, use Orthos to strain the system, this will show the max temps under a controlled stress test and also show if its stable.

Thermal Specification: 61.4°C as stated by Intel.

At 333x9 you'll have to either use a divider on the memory (P35/X38) seem very good at this) and take it up to or just over 6400.

You can then either tighten or relax the memory timings, I would just use 1:1 for now with slack timings and concentrate on getting the CPU and board stable.

A good read on your board is here: (Courtesy of Xtremesystems)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/show...=161618


well im using Orthos on my system just now, pushed cpu speed up to 2011MHz
Both cores are going no higher than 51C tested on orthos and 31C idle,i think i'de be happy settling for 2.4GHZ,but im not too sure of what the actual safe temp i should'nt go past is?
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24. February 2008 @ 09:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Stick within the rated temperature from Intel 61.4'C


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24. February 2008 @ 09:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not that I'd take my CPU above that, but 61.4C seems pretty low, I remember my old Athlon XP ran at 77C for many months without issues.



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oh hey! BigDK is back!

on my board the normal voltage is 1.3500v i Can't clock pass 2.0Ghz without increasing the volts, it's b/c of my crappy board. If i had a P35/X38 Gigabyte board i should be able to clock it to 2.8ghz without raising the volts.

Oh by the way my friend said that someone lowered there cpu volts below the normal and it runs stable on default clock speed, is that possible? I've lowered my volts to 0.5xxxV and my pc won't boot(that was stupid)

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