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The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.
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Originally posted by thashit:
I just want to say thanks for the geniuses that originated this thread, and gave out the gold!... i definitely have no intentions of spamming or sh** but i have some of the finished m2ts products on *** if you guys wanna take a look. no bulls***... ive coded at least 45 br's and theyre perfect. just hit bdrp under search and thats all my stuff, all following ryu77's awesome instructions. i took off the turbo from the profile(because i have the time) so each took about 24 hours, and im just trying to save time for everyone else... spread the wealth! dont reinvent the wheel! in no way do i benefit from that site, or get anything from it... if you need an invite, just pm me... im 'thashit' here and there. if this isnt allowed here, i apologize, but im not trying anything stupid
I appreciate what you are trying to do but you really should have read the rules before making that post. Please read (especially rule # 5 and the section on invites to private sites)...
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487
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25. December 2008 @ 13:26 |
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Hey guy's i want to start getting into burning BR's. I just have a couple questions. I want to get a list going of stuff i will need to get started. i will obviously need to invest in a Blu-Ray Burner, AnyDVD-HD. i was also wondering if my Nero will work for this also?
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25. December 2008 @ 15:03 |
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Originally posted by proxpilot:
Hey guy's i want to start getting into burning BR's. I just have a couple questions. I want to get a list going of stuff i will need to get started. i will obviously need to invest in a Blu-Ray Burner, AnyDVD-HD. i was also wondering if my Nero will work for this also?
There's a good guide and download with everything, except the BD writer, in one bundle with all of the apps and a good description. Download it a read up, come back here if you have more questions.
For starters though you should have;
-BD read/writer, bonus if it reads HDDVD (for HDDVD->BD conversion)
-AnyDVDHD
-Burning software, your new BD drive will come with this, or you can use IMGBurn, it's free.
-Blank BDs and/or DVDs
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25. December 2008 @ 15:19 |
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hey Ryu,
i wanna make a 1080p WMV with 5.1 sound file to play on my XBOX360 Elite. I intend to stream it through Windows Media Extender. i already have a 21 GB .m2ts file that i ripped with tsMuxeRGUI. I made it from backing up a Blu-ray disc I own. can you point me to a guide or post you made in this thread that can show me how to go from there to make my 1080p WMV 5.1 file? i have all the programs and files you mentioned to download in the first post in this thread. Please let me know. thanks a lot.
Merry Christmas! :D
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2. January 2009 @ 18:35 |
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Thanks guys for all your insight and knowledge. I am just now ripping blu rays to my hard drive with anydvd and have the m2ts file with the movie. My problem is the language is in French and I want to have it in English. I have have downloaded Tsmuxer and eac3to because I have heard yu can use these to strip away the audio you dont want and mux the audio track you do want with the movie. Can someone tell me step by step how to do this? Or point me to a great guide on doing this? I have looked and read but havent found exactly how to do it. Thanks
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alcOre
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@Ryu77
What's the difference between your MeGUI AVCHD/Bluray profiles and the ones that come with MeGUI?
And what's the difference between the AVDHD profile and the Bluray profile?
I convert down to 720p from 1080p source to fit on a dual layer dvd to play on my standalone bluray player...which profile should I be using...AVCHD or Bluray? (Been using Bluray) And which profile outputs better quality...yours or the one that comes with MeGUI?
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4. January 2009 @ 19:09 |
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Originally posted by alcOre:
@Ryu77
What's the difference between your MeGUI AVCHD/Bluray profiles and the ones that come with MeGUI?
And what's the difference between the AVDHD profile and the Bluray profile?
I convert down to 720p from 1080p source to fit on a dual layer dvd to play on my standalone bluray player...which profile should I be using...AVCHD or Bluray? (Been using Bluray) And which profile outputs better quality...yours or the one that comes with MeGUI?
The difference between his two profiles is the max buffer size and max bit rate. His new profile is geared more towards HD content on regular DVDs where the bitrate would lower than that on a Blu-ray. This also creates better stability amongst non Sony BD players that support AVCHD. Sony generally handles AVCHD content well regardless of the media or content.
If your encodes are 720p on a DVD you can use his latest AVCHD profile. Use his early profile for content on BD-Rs. Notice the lines highlighted in red.
Here is his AVCHD profile.
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program --pass 2 --bitrate 6015 --stats "C:\.stats" --keyint 24 --min-keyint 2 --ref 4 --mixed-refs --no-fast-pskip --bframes 3 --b-pyramid --weightb --direct auto --trellis 2 --partitions all --8x8dct --qpmin 8 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-bufsize 15000 --vbv-maxrate 17500 --qcomp 0.5 --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-dct-decimate --no-psnr --no-ssim --output "output" "input" --mvrange 511 --aud --nal-hrd --sar 1:1
Here is his Blu-ray profile.
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program --pass 2 --bitrate 8377 --stats "C:\Program Files\MeGUIv3\logs\.stats" --keyint 24 --min-keyint 2 --ref 4 --mixed-refs --no-fast-pskip --bframes 3 --b-pyramid --weightb --direct auto --trellis 2 --partitions all --8x8dct --qpmin 8 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --vbv-maxrate 38000 --qcomp 0.5 --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-dct-decimate --no-psnr --no-ssim --output "output" "input" --mvrange 511 --aud --nal-hrd --sar 1:1
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4. January 2009 @ 21:09 |
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Ok...but which will yield better results (video quality) between the AVCHD profile in MeGUI or Ryu's?
And why is the level unrestricted/autoguess?
Doesn't the AVCHD spec or whatever have a max? Like 4.0 or 4.1?
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5. January 2009 @ 03:08 |
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Originally posted by alcOre:
Ok...but which will yield better results (video quality) between the AVCHD profile in MeGUI or Ryu's?
And why is the level unrestricted/autoguess?
Doesn't the AVCHD spec or whatever have a max? Like 4.0 or 4.1?
Thank you for the previous explanation odin24. Very well laid out...
My profile has been tweaked to provide better quality output than the Blu-ray profiles included in MeGUI. Along with this comes slower encoding time. However, after lots of research and testing, I have found my profile settings provide the best compromise between quality and encoding time.
I could explain ways to further increase quality but I am talking 5% improvement with at least 50% more encoding time. I believe I have hit the sweet spot between quality and encoding speed. Please feel free to change things if your preferences desire.
In regards to the autoguess, this means that the x264 will tag the video file according to whatever settings you choose. Previously if you changed a setting that was outside a level boundary, an annoying message window would show up on the screen.
Max Blu-ray spec is 4.1. However, in the past those that used the x264 encoder tagged the media file as 4.1 even though it may have really only been a level 3.0. Autoguess will tag the file correctly for you.
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5. January 2009 @ 17:49 |
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Alcore can you tell me if Eac3toGUI or Eac3to moreGUI will work on a Vista system? Also I tried Eac3to and got the first [art of the batch file to run that tells me what the parts of the movie there is but to get it to demux I am having trouble. I added the lines like it showed but I dont know if I am putting them in the wrong spot. What and where should I be putting the syntax command to demux my M2TS file that I ripped to my HDD? If you could give an example that would be great Thanks again for helping me. I have tried looking in many different forums for the anwer but am having trouble locating my problem. If you need more info let me know. I am using Eac3to v2.85.
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6. January 2009 @ 01:10 |
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@jr2647
Hey...
First let me preface this response by saying I am far from the expert at this stuff...Ryu and Odin seem to be the most knowledgeable. That being said, and even though I'm pretty much a complete nub at this stuff, I should still be able to help you out since I've successfully transcoded quite a few blurays now to avchd format.
On to your question : I can't say for sure whether or not eac3to works with vista, but I see no evidence anywhere that it doesn't. I've read every single post on the eac3to thread up till about 2 weeks ago, and not one post had mentioned any problems specifically related to vista. I use XP and will not be switching over to vista anytime soon. I work on computers for a living and I pretty much hate vista. The only thing I can think of that would be causing an issue in vista would be user account control feature. But honestly that would be a big surprise to me if that was the issue since I highly doubt eac3to requires administrative privileges. But hey, try turning off UAC anyways and see if it helps. Go to the control panel. Go to the user settings, and uncheck the option that says something like "enable user account control." Reboot and try again.
Honestly though its probably something in your command line that's causing the issue. Would be helpful if you gave me an error or something from eac3to.
You asked for an example. I don't have a Bluray ripped to my hard drive right now so that's gonna have to wait for a couple of days (my desktop is currently busy encoding a few blurays.
I might be able to help a little though. Before I say the following, let me preface this : in my opinion, you should play around with the command you're throwing at eac3to and get it to work...if you understand how it works at a command line level you'll better understand what you're doing. Here's an example of an eac3to command line run against la confidential bluray rip :
"C:\Program Files\VideoTools\EAC3To\eac3to.exe" "D:\BDRip\LA Confidential" 1) 1:"C:\BDRip\LAConfidential\1_1_chapter.txt" 2:"C:\BDRip\LAConfidential\1_2_video.mkv" 3:"C:\BDRip\LAConfidential\1_3_audio.ac3" 4:"C:\BDRip\LAConfidential\1_4_audio.ac3" -core 12:"C:\BDRip\LAConfidential\1_12_audio.ac3" 13:"C:\BDRip\LAConfidential\1_13_subtitle.sup" 28:"C:\BDRip\LAConfidential\1_28_subtitle.sup" -progressnumbers
Its not going to be easy for me to explain this in this format, expecially since I don't have a full bluray rip available to me right now to use as an example. Hopefully that example command line helps, but if not maybe I'll write up a simple tutorial myself. Not to say at all that the tutorials that are out there aren't sufficient, but perhaps I could explain it in a more layman terms, since I'm a nub too.
One other thing you could try (but like I said you really should learn to use eac3to first through the command line in my opinion) is the HdBrStreamExtractor program. Its a simple GUI for eac3to written by the author of MeGUI (he's going to eventually incorporate the program directly into MeGUI...but for now you can use it as a standalone program.) There's a link to the program on the first page of this thread but here it is anyways [url=http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141829][/url]
Extract that program to the same folder you have eac3to extracted to. Run the program. In the input field, browse to the folder where you have your bluray extracted to (specifically the BDMV folder.) In the output folder, browse to a folder where you want your elementary chapter/audio/video/subtitles extracted to. I usually make a folder called Demuxed in the folder where my movie is. For example c:\BDRip\LAConfidential\Demuxed
Then hit the features button. Give it a minute or two and you'll see the features of the bluray movie listed in the upper box (labeled features.) Click on the feature you want (the main movie...figure it out by looking at the length of the movie that's listed and the resolution...the main movie is almost always 1080p.)
Anyways, after you click on the feature you want, you'll see the streams listed in the lower box (the one labeled steam(s). Put a check next to each stream you want to extract. Select the extension you want. For example for the video stream the extension can either be the raw file or .mkv. I recommend you use .mkv for the video stream. The chapter file is always .txt. The Subtitles are always .sup. The audio files though you need to choose. For example if the audio stream you want is a dts stream, you can choose .dts for extension and it'll just extract it without any conversion. If for example you choose .ac3 for that dts stream, eac3to will convert the dts stream to ac3. Its gets more complicated cause there are a few different audio steam types for high def content. Hopefully this gets you by. Re-read the tutorial that I posted earlier. Try again. You'll figure out what the issue is. If you still can't get it let me know, but tell me what kind of error you're getting from eac3to.
On that note : Do you think it would be helpful to you if I wrote up a more step by step tutorial aimed at new users? I can do that if you would think it would help you out, but it'll have to wait until the weekend.
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6. January 2009 @ 21:31 |
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@Ryu or Odin (or whomever can answer)
Started using your profile Ryu...slightly modified (like I set the level to 4.1 just for my peace of mind.)
Muxed streams with tsMuxer just like I have in the past. In the tsMuxer log I noticed a new line.
B-pyramid level 1 detected. Shift DTS to 2 frames
What exactly does that mean that it shifted DTS to 2 frames? Is that affecting the quality of my audio or video or is that just a sync thing?
Another question : When I'm playing my AVCHD movies on my panasonic bluray player, the movie seems to kinda stutter when the camera pans. Like if the actor is walking and the camera is moving following the character, the background seems to stutter...its not smooth motion. I thought maybe it was the way my tv was handling the 23.976 FPS but I don't see this issue when watching regular bluray movies. For that matter it doesn't do that when I watch HD-DVDs either. Only seems to be an issue with my transcoded avchd movies. Any ideas? PS...It doesn't seem to be an issue when I play that same transcoded video on my computer...just on the bluray player on my tv. Doesn't make sense to me why the video stutters...
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7. January 2009 @ 11:30 |
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System specs:
2x dual core Xeon 2.4ghz (4 total cores)
4gb memory
2x 146gb SAS drives in RAID 0 (aka, FAST)
I?m working on turning Blueray movies into nice tidy x264 encoded MKV files for use on my network media tank.
I have been following the guide @ http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346
I have ripped my Blueray movie.
I used tsMuxeR to demux the main movie and audio stream that I want. The source file was 00000.m2ts
This gives me two files
00000.track_4113.vc1 (16gb)
00000.track_4352.ac3 (1gb)
I open MeGUI to encode the vc1 file into an x264.
I open the avisynth script screator and select the video input file, and this is where it all goes wrong.
Disk activity goes crazy mad for a while, I assume it?s reading the file. Disk activity stops, and CPU usage goes up to about 25 percent on a single core and just sits there for hours and hours and hours?. And hours.
Is this normal? What am I doing wrong?
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7. January 2009 @ 11:52 |
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Use the m2ts file that the VC1 stream is in... not the actual VC1 file. The encode will take about 10-14 hours, even on your PC.
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That worked. :)
How does it know which stream to select?
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7. January 2009 @ 13:41 |
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There should only be one video stream in the m2ts... sometimes there is two, in that case remux the demuxed 1080p file. The only other video stream that would be in there is a 480p stream.
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19.11 average frames per second on this server. :)
3 frames average on my desktop!
Dell 2950's for everyone!
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Hi,
Thanks for the information.It is really helpful article and can solve problems of many people.
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Alcore thanks so much for the help. The GUI for eac3to has helped do what I wanted to do but I intend to learn how to use the comman line. IF you could make a simple tutorial for the laymen that would be great. Like how to make a batch fiel what lines go where and where to save the file etc. that would be helpful. One thing that I am having a problem with using the GUI is that some movies have 2 english subtitles...is there a difference in them? Also sometimes the demuxing will stio because of a problem with the subtitle script. Any ideas on why that happens. Thanks agian for the help.
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11. January 2009 @ 21:06 |
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Originally posted by jr2647:
Alcore thanks so much for the help. The GUI for eac3to has helped do what I wanted to do but I intend to learn how to use the comman line. IF you could make a simple tutorial for the laymen that would be great. Like how to make a batch fiel what lines go where and where to save the file etc. that would be helpful. One thing that I am having a problem with using the GUI is that some movies have 2 english subtitles...is there a difference in them? Also sometimes the demuxing will stio because of a problem with the subtitle script. Any ideas on why that happens. Thanks agian for the help.
-448 Use e.g. "192", "448" or "640" kbps for AC3 encoding
-768 Use "768" or "1536" kbps for DTS encoding
-core Extract the DTS core of a hd.cfm" class="forum_link" target="_blank">DTS-HD track
+/-100ms Apply a positive or negative audio delay
+/-3dB Apply a positive or negative audio gain (volume change)
-0,1,2,3,4,5 Remap the channels to the specified order
-edit=0:00:00,0ms Loops or removes audio data at the specified runtime
-down6 Downmix 7 or 8 channels to 6 channels
-down2 Downmix multi channel audio to stereo (Dolby Pro Logic II)
-phaseShift Shift phase (when doing stereo downmixing, see "down2")
-mixlfe Mix LFE in (when doing stereo downmixing, see "down2")
-down16 Downconvert decoded audio data to 14..23 bit
-slowdown Convert 25.000 and 24.000 content to 23.976 fps
-speedup Convert 23.976 and 24.000 content to 25.000 fps
-23.976/... Define source fps to be "23.976", "24.000", "25.000", ...
-changeTo24.000 Change source fps to "23.976", "24.000", "25.000", ...
-resampleTo48000 Resample audio to "44100", "48000" or "96000" Hz
-fast Use fast, but lower quality SSRC resampling
-r8brain Use r8brain resampler instead of SSRC
-quality=0.50 Nero AAC encoding quality (0.00 = lowest; 1.00 = highest)
-8 Define PCM file to be "1".."8" channels
-16 Define PCM file to be "16" or "24" bit
-little Define PCM file to be "little" or "big" endian
-96000 Define PCM file to be 44100, 48000, 96000 or 192000 Hz
-override Forcefully overrides PCM auto detection with manual values
-sonic/nero/... Force the use of a specific decoder (not recommended)
-keepDialnorm Disables dialog normalization removal (not recommended)
-decodeHdcd Decodes HDCD source track (usually 16 -> 20 bit)
-demux Demuxes 1st video track and all audio and subtitle tracks
-stripPulldown Strips the pulldown from MPEG2 video tracks
-keepPulldown Disable removal of pulldown for MPEG2, h264 and VC-1 tracks
-seekToIFrames Make all h264/AVC "I" frames seekable
-check Checks if the source EVO/(M2)TS file is clean.
-test Checks if the external filters are installed & working
-lowPriority Moves processing to background/idle priority
-shutdown Automatically shutdown the PC after processing is done
To check subtitles, you could use SUPread or SupRip. These applications allow you to check the text to see whether or not it is a forced subtitle that you need to keep, or one for the hearing impaired etc.
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11. January 2009 @ 21:14 |
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Multiple english subtitles can mean a few different things.
They could be just the regular english subs...they could also include english subs that are SDH or something like that...basically the subs that not only subtitle the spoken words but also sound effects, etc. Sometimes a bluray/hddvd will have just regular subs, just the sdh ones, or both. They could also be subs for the commentary tracks or a separate forced subs track. Extract all of them imo. I have also seen issue where eac3to gets stuck on certain sub tracks. Try the just released eac3to (like, 2 hours ago or something.) If that doesn't work you can use tsmuxer to demux the subtitle tracks also and just use eac3to for the audio/video/chapters.
I'll get around to making a tutorial eventually...
PS. Sometimes the forced subs are not a separate subtitle stream. Blurays can specify certain parts of the main subtitles as forced. If you use suprip to ocr the .sup files, always click the "only forced subtitles" or whatever the checkbox is just to make sure there aren't any forced subs in there.
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@Ryu77, or anyone who has advice.
I am re-encoding a BD for a friend, except he wants 720p. I this as simple as just resizing or are there other factors to include? Should I use a different profile, or will either of Ryu's or a fast SA_Blu-ray work fine?
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