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The Official OC (OverClocking) Thread!
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AfterDawn Addict
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1. April 2006 @ 04:30 |
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Now the question answer man becomes the question asking man.
I'm looking at getting an X2 4200+ and overclocking it, as far as is possible with normal resources. I see little point in a 5% overclock, so if that's all I manage (i doubt it) then I ain't going to bother.
Whilst I know what the process involves, I've not done it myself, and in particular with Athlon64s and their hyertransport bus I'm missing a few of the bits of information required to do it successfully.
I'm intending to use an Arctic Cooling Freezer64Pro Heatsink, and Arctic Silver V Paste. Now, how would I go about an overclock, and is standard Kingston CAS2.5 RAM ok for the job?
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3. April 2006 @ 00:05 |
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Well an update on my OC.
I turned it down a bit....my settings now are
PC GEAR
Asus a8n-sli Mobo
Athlon64 3200+ 939 Venice DH-E6 (stock 2.0GHz)
1 gig of Kingston ddr400 pc3200 2x512
NEW SETTINGS
CPU-2.45GHz (10x245@1.5v)
RAM-2.5-3-3-6@2.8v
HTT-4x
PCI Synch-33.33
I am now stable as ever with stock cooling. I have heat spreaders on my ram now and my idle temps are about 31 celcius and my load temps are about 47 celcius. Temps tested at about the 5 hour mark of Prime95.
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3. April 2006 @ 01:46 |
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Not bad, you're running the equivalent of a $330 CPU for $150.
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*agent47*
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6. April 2006 @ 12:00 |
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i have a 256mb X850 agp card. (agp sucks - i know)
how do u go about over clocking this???
for will the benefits be?
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tocool4u
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6. April 2006 @ 12:08 |
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It should have an OC program that is on your comp when you installed it.......O and you have to make sure you have enough cooling...Or you could screw up your graphics
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6. April 2006 @ 13:44 |
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Nah, with stock cooling which is what 99+% of people use, you're not going to wreck the GPU, the software won't allow you. The worst case scenario is that the PC will need to be restarted.
AGP doesn't really suck, you'll find plenty of PCI express cards slower than that one, trust me!
tocool4u, I appreciate you helping everybody out, but sometimes I think you should read through stuff before you post, no offense meant, but sometimes you could lead people down the wrong track.
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tocool4u
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6. April 2006 @ 13:52 |
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YEA OK>>>>>>>But i havn't found a sight with stuff i can learn from...Can you please direct me to 1..O and i knew it would restart if it got to hot or system became unstable..because i have like the crapiest RAM that i can't OC at all wothout out my system becoming unstable....I found a really good Hardware sight but it is only a forum http://forums.vr-zone.com
No but i am serious though i knew it wouldn't srew up his card i was just scaring him...Or just over exaggerating the point :D
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7. April 2006 @ 01:44 |
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Yes well, don't... A lot of people ask because they genuinely don't know, you scaring them isn't going to help proceedings!
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8. April 2006 @ 12:20 |
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ok thanks for that info, what tempurature is safe for the graphics card to be at? wot is the average? what is the safe highest??
and if i did overclock, will extra fans help, or is water cooling needed?
and what are the real benefits? just it really make a difference by having an extra 100mhz memory clock?
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8. April 2006 @ 12:24 |
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With graphics cards there's no real rule of thumb. Some cards will operate significantly above 100ºC whereas others may start to creak at 70. I wouldn't worry about heat too much, if there are any problems you'll hear about them - artefacting, stability problems, restarts. I would never recommend water cooling to anyone as it's a disaster waiting to happen. Just buy plenty of low noise fans (below 25dB). In general you can never have enough cooling, so if there's room to fit it, do it.
An extra 100mhz on memory is quite significant and can reduce the slowdown on games quite effectively in a few instances.
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InvGIR
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8. April 2006 @ 12:34 |
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Well when I o/c my CPU I clock it up by about 50mhz on the core clock and 110mhz on the memory and I can't say that it makes much if any difference. I am only running a GeForce 6200 TD, which is why it can only go up a small amount, plus it is also on stock cooling which means it may not be clockable higher.
Also being a cheap card it doesn't have a temperature sensor (that I know of), which means I can't tell on the temp fronts.
On the side of cooling, you only need watercooling if you are really, really overclocking you pc, as most fan cooling will perfome well enough for the smaller (new to clocking) overclocking.
What I have;
AMD Althon 3000+ 2.0ghz Socket 754 - Clocked to 2.40ghz - Stable
Akasa LED cooler - AK-855-BL
Winfast NFS250 motherboard
Winfast GeForce 6200TD - Unlocked to 8 pipelines and increased mhz, better preformance than 6600vanilla
1256MB Kingston DDR RAM
500W Magna PSU - ATX500W
DVD Reader
DVD±RW
1 Blue and Red LED case fan
1 Blue, Green and Red LED case fan
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8. April 2006 @ 12:47 |
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With a Turbocache graphics card however, not all the RAM is from the GPU, so increasing the memory speed will make very little difference indeed.
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16. April 2006 @ 21:23 |
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Hello guys,I'm new to this thread and don't have much knowledge of overclocking but I have managed this so far.
I would appreciate any suggestions on what you think I might do to get more from this rig or if it's already maxed out.
It is running stable at this speed with a cpu temp.of 31c.(system #2 in sig.)
Main System- Amd/64 3800x2 currently@ 2.5ghz. Asus A8N-E,win.xp-pro.4x1gb.Ocz platnium ddr 400,Maxtor 40gb.& 250gb.ide & 2x W.D.250 sata,Benq 1650V dvd Reader & Benq DW-1655 Writer,EVGA Geforce 7600gs,Creative Audigy-LS,Antec 750w psu. Vizio 37"hdtv monitor 1360x768@75hz.
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18. April 2006 @ 00:32 |
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The image is difficult to read because it's rescaled...
Is that a 2.6Ghz core speed?
If so, that's a very good result and I'd be happy with it!
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boxwrench
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18. April 2006 @ 08:19 |
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@ sammorris,Yes that is 2.6ghz. I have resized it,hope fully it will be more ledgible. This was all accomplished without any voltage changes,or memory timing modifications.My intentions were to achieve maximum performance with my S-754 platform.
Main System- Amd/64 3800x2 currently@ 2.5ghz. Asus A8N-E,win.xp-pro.4x1gb.Ocz platnium ddr 400,Maxtor 40gb.& 250gb.ide & 2x W.D.250 sata,Benq 1650V dvd Reader & Benq DW-1655 Writer,EVGA Geforce 7600gs,Creative Audigy-LS,Antec 750w psu. Vizio 37"hdtv monitor 1360x768@75hz.
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18. April 2006 @ 08:39 |
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and heavens, you have. That's pretty much FX-55 speed, and without any modifications other than FSB!
Nice work.
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InvGIR
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18. April 2006 @ 08:54 |
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Well no offece but I can't see that being much of an overclock guys, I run an AMD 3000+ Skt-754 Newcastle core and it can be happily overclocked to 2.5GHz with the stock speed of 2.0GHz, that's a 25% boost. I'm currently only running at 2.0GHz, but the only reason for that is I was given some extra RAM and it's very cheap stuff which makes the pc unstable.
With the 512mb Kingston RAM I have that I was only using I got it clocked stable at 2.5GHz and the only reason I couldn't clock it more is because my motherboard only allows me to clock it to that.
To be able to get more out of you CPU don't forget that decent cooling is essential, as the more youi push it the warmer it gets. I also recommend pushing it's stock voltage up a fraction of a volt to give it enough power to be able to handle the extra processing.
Memory clock can also give your pc that little bit more of a boost, but just be careful about what you play with, I clocked my ram up from 266 to 400 with a press of a couple of buttons and almost busted my pc (this being due again to the cheap ram that is currently residing inside my case).
Another helpful thing is clocking your GPU and to do this with Nvidia just download any of the modified drivers as they have built in overclocking abilities (right click and select your monitor at the desktop and look in one of the menus).
What I have;
AMD Althon 3000+ 2.0ghz Socket 754 - Clocked to 2.40ghz - Stable
Akasa LED cooler - AK-855-BL
Winfast NFS250 motherboard
Winfast GeForce 6200TD - Unlocked to 8 pipelines and increased mhz, better preformance than 6600vanilla
1256MB Kingston DDR RAM
500W Magna PSU - ATX500W
DVD Reader
DVD±RW
1 Blue and Red LED case fan
1 Blue, Green and Red LED case fan
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boxwrench
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18. April 2006 @ 08:55 |
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@ sammorris,Matching the FX-55 was my intended goal.I have been considering the A/64 4000+ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819104257 appears to be the last possible candidate for the 754 m/b but for the price maybe I should take the S939 plunge.What would you suggest?
@InvGir,No offence taken. The 3400+ from what I 've been led to believe is not much of an over clocker to begin with and as far as voltages etc.. they all remain stock.I have used the Nvidia gpu oc utility but it is set to auto.Cooling appears to be just fine as the cpu has never exceeded 45c even after a half hour of Halo at 1280x1024.
As I noted previously,I am not an avid overclocker simply doing some hopefully non destructive experimentation.
All your suggestions are appreciated.
Main System- Amd/64 3800x2 currently@ 2.5ghz. Asus A8N-E,win.xp-pro.4x1gb.Ocz platnium ddr 400,Maxtor 40gb.& 250gb.ide & 2x W.D.250 sata,Benq 1650V dvd Reader & Benq DW-1655 Writer,EVGA Geforce 7600gs,Creative Audigy-LS,Antec 750w psu. Vizio 37"hdtv monitor 1360x768@75hz.
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InvGIR
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18. April 2006 @ 10:25 |
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Yeah, that's what I started off doing when I did it, I then slowley pushed more out of it etc...untill i got this new ram which makes everything destructive heh.
I think the highest temps I was getting was like 47c which suprises me due to the fact I have a £15 cooler on the CPU. I never saw much improvment with the overclocking of my CPU, but I think it was bottle necking on the mainboard and that reduced the power, as I have a fairly cheap motherboard.
What I have;
AMD Althon 3000+ 2.0ghz Socket 754 - Clocked to 2.40ghz - Stable
Akasa LED cooler - AK-855-BL
Winfast NFS250 motherboard
Winfast GeForce 6200TD - Unlocked to 8 pipelines and increased mhz, better preformance than 6600vanilla
1256MB Kingston DDR RAM
500W Magna PSU - ATX500W
DVD Reader
DVD±RW
1 Blue and Red LED case fan
1 Blue, Green and Red LED case fan
What I am getting;
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boxwrench
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18. April 2006 @ 10:34 |
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I too am wondering if the m/b could be holding me back,this is the third board now(none broken just trying to improve) and they all have been with the nforce 250 chipset.
Question, How do I go about unlocking the pipelines on my video card?
Main System- Amd/64 3800x2 currently@ 2.5ghz. Asus A8N-E,win.xp-pro.4x1gb.Ocz platnium ddr 400,Maxtor 40gb.& 250gb.ide & 2x W.D.250 sata,Benq 1650V dvd Reader & Benq DW-1655 Writer,EVGA Geforce 7600gs,Creative Audigy-LS,Antec 750w psu. Vizio 37"hdtv monitor 1360x768@75hz.
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InvGIR
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18. April 2006 @ 10:48 |
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Well I'd sujest the latest Nforce boards, the Nforce4, but I don't know if you can get them for the Skt-754 chips.
As far as I know the 6600GT has all of it's 8 pipelines unlocked and doesn't hold any more. My 6200 is one of few versions of the 6200 that was made with the 6600 chipset and so instead of having the 6200 4 pipelines it has the 6600 8 pipelines but 4 were locked.
I unlocked them by using RviaTuner which is available most places www.guru3d.com is a good place to get it and other tweaking tools.
If there are unlockable pipelines go here http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:0ACHdq2dqf8J:www.digital-dail... (a quick google soon puts weary heads at rest, along with calming the inquisative minds :))
What I have;
AMD Althon 3000+ 2.0ghz Socket 754 - Clocked to 2.40ghz - Stable
Akasa LED cooler - AK-855-BL
Winfast NFS250 motherboard
Winfast GeForce 6200TD - Unlocked to 8 pipelines and increased mhz, better preformance than 6600vanilla
1256MB Kingston DDR RAM
500W Magna PSU - ATX500W
DVD Reader
DVD±RW
1 Blue and Red LED case fan
1 Blue, Green and Red LED case fan
What I am getting;
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18. April 2006 @ 10:48 |
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Well no offece but I can't see that being much of an overclock guys
Are you kidding? 30% is ample, I'm amazed he got that much, especially without any voltage modifications (which, as has been subtly hinted, will see a further performance boost)
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Question, How do I go about unlocking the pipelines on my video card?
This is done by what is known as BIOS flashing. By changing the graphics BIOS you can run software that allows the card to run with all its physical data lines active.
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As I noted previously,I am not an avid overclocker simply doing some hopefully non destructive experimentation.
Hey, you're one up on me, I haven't started yet!
I'm running a £10 cooler with arctic alumina that I obviously haven't applied very well, and the cheapest RAM out there, so atm I'm not going to bother, it won't be worth it.
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InvGIR
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18. April 2006 @ 10:52 |
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Hehehe, nice, I'm using unbranded thermal paste which ran out whilst applying, so had to be really mean with it...I'm sure there are some gaps in it :/ an Arctic LED cooler, some expencive ram mixed with cheapo ram, and of course the healthy dolop of hope (that it wont break as I cant afford that).
What I have;
AMD Althon 3000+ 2.0ghz Socket 754 - Clocked to 2.40ghz - Stable
Akasa LED cooler - AK-855-BL
Winfast NFS250 motherboard
Winfast GeForce 6200TD - Unlocked to 8 pipelines and increased mhz, better preformance than 6600vanilla
1256MB Kingston DDR RAM
500W Magna PSU - ATX500W
DVD Reader
DVD±RW
1 Blue and Red LED case fan
1 Blue, Green and Red LED case fan
What I am getting;
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boxwrench
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18. April 2006 @ 11:02 |
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Main System- Amd/64 3800x2 currently@ 2.5ghz. Asus A8N-E,win.xp-pro.4x1gb.Ocz platnium ddr 400,Maxtor 40gb.& 250gb.ide & 2x W.D.250 sata,Benq 1650V dvd Reader & Benq DW-1655 Writer,EVGA Geforce 7600gs,Creative Audigy-LS,Antec 750w psu. Vizio 37"hdtv monitor 1360x768@75hz.
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18. April 2006 @ 11:09 |
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I did, and great as the 4000+ is, with that sort of power, you may as well up to 939.
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