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23. June 2006 @ 12:13 |
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Despite their "designed for Windows Vista" claims.
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InvGIR
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23. June 2006 @ 12:29 |
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Yeah, trsut them to do that...well it is partly runable, and Vista runs on DX9 cards anyways, so technicaly it is Vista compatable.
Back on topic, I got some new RAM for my PC now I'm running 1200mb of Kingston DDR 200mhz RAM. I was running 512mb Kingston and 1000mb of unbranded stuff, removing my overclocking ablilities.
With this new RAM I have overclocked my PC again, I put it to the max of 2.5GHz (that's the most my mobo allows) and kept getting crashes in games, so figured I would go down the correct route of overclocking.
I'm running OCCT and Speedfan (SF just because idealy OCCT needs it) and it crapped out at 2.5GHz, and thenagain at 2.45GHz and so far it is running stably at 2.4GHz using about 97% of the CPU pushing the temp up from 35c to 47c (well in the limits of my AMD Althon 64 3000+).
This test runs for about 30mins and full pushes your CPU and will automaticaly stop if it encounters a problem and you can easily stop it if you think it's getting hot.
If anybody is overclocking make sure you run stress testers before you run anything else incase you completely mess up your PC. I don't mind screwing mine up so will run things anyways, probably best not to take after me :D
What I have;
AMD Althon 3000+ 2.0ghz Socket 754 - Clocked to 2.40ghz - Stable
Akasa LED cooler - AK-855-BL
Winfast NFS250 motherboard
Winfast GeForce 6200TD - Unlocked to 8 pipelines and increased mhz, better preformance than 6600vanilla
1256MB Kingston DDR RAM
500W Magna PSU - ATX500W
DVD Reader
DVD±RW
1 Blue and Red LED case fan
1 Blue, Green and Red LED case fan
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23. June 2006 @ 12:32 |
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1200MB? are you sure?
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InvGIR
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23. June 2006 @ 12:34 |
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Yeah, 1.2GB Kingston RAM, 2x512 1x256 I often list it as the MB instead of the GB. Ok, so technically it's 1256MB, and 1.25GB but i's close enough.
What I have;
AMD Althon 3000+ 2.0ghz Socket 754 - Clocked to 2.40ghz - Stable
Akasa LED cooler - AK-855-BL
Winfast NFS250 motherboard
Winfast GeForce 6200TD - Unlocked to 8 pipelines and increased mhz, better preformance than 6600vanilla
1256MB Kingston DDR RAM
500W Magna PSU - ATX500W
DVD Reader
DVD±RW
1 Blue and Red LED case fan
1 Blue, Green and Red LED case fan
What I am getting;
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23. June 2006 @ 12:35 |
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ah, so 1280 then, not 1200.
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rick5446
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24. June 2006 @ 14:21 |
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New here,hope some help is available..I just got a new Board GIGABYTE K8 TRITON [GA-K8VM800M]W/AMD SEMPRON 3100+ I'M a little disappointed its only 1.8MGz..It seems to run slowew then my older E-Machine T2625 ATHLON 2.0GHz 2600+
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24. June 2006 @ 14:44 |
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1.8Ghz doesn't matter, it'll run more like a 2.7, your XP 2600+ would be more like a 2.3. It won't be much faster, but a bit, and it'll be a lot faster in Vista. I assume you still have as much RAM and as good a GPU etc.
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rick5446
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24. June 2006 @ 15:05 |
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sammorris..I USED MY OLD RAM 512meg
What is in vista ?
My old 1 was actually 2.16
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24. June 2006 @ 15:09 |
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no rick, mhz isn't the only factor in how fast a CPU is. AMD CPUs have technology that means that with a low mhz speed they can run like a faster mhz processor. Although the Sempron is 1800mhz versus 2165mhz, it will run like a P4 2700 whereas the 2165mhz XP would run like a P4 2300, that's how AMDs work.
Vista is the next version of windows that'll be faster on 64-bit CPUs like your sempron - the XP was 32-bit.
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rick5446
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24. June 2006 @ 20:33 |
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sammorris..Well thanks..U Got any suggestions on O/C this partic. Brd.[GIGABYTE K8 TRITON]
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24. June 2006 @ 22:42 |
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There are other factors to consider like buss speed and hypertransport. I would be a little leary of vista. It still has some bugs.
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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InvGIR
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25. June 2006 @ 00:15 |
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Well rick I'd say first off you need to get more RAM, 512mb RAM with Windows XP is a very small amount really, get like another 512mb or 1024mb and it'll run a lot faster. The PC's speed isn't just dependant on the processor it's also on the RAM and the motherboard, if that's a new motherboard then it should run nice and fast with some more RAM.
What I have;
AMD Althon 3000+ 2.0ghz Socket 754 - Clocked to 2.40ghz - Stable
Akasa LED cooler - AK-855-BL
Winfast NFS250 motherboard
Winfast GeForce 6200TD - Unlocked to 8 pipelines and increased mhz, better preformance than 6600vanilla
1256MB Kingston DDR RAM
500W Magna PSU - ATX500W
DVD Reader
DVD±RW
1 Blue and Red LED case fan
1 Blue, Green and Red LED case fan
What I am getting;
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25. June 2006 @ 09:56 |
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LOL I'm not going for Vista until at least 6 months after it's out, possibly 12. You would want 1GB of RAM to get best results though, I regularly exceed 512 in windows, I've exceeded 800 once!
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rick5446
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25. June 2006 @ 12:18 |
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InvGIR..Thanks..I appreciate your help..Any input on what type of ram to buy..I'll probably buy 2 new 512's instead of 1024..Just in case one goes ZAP!!
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25. June 2006 @ 12:56 |
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Sure, that makes more sense than you think. 2 sticks = dual channel = faster and cheaper. I'm using 2x1024 in my next system because 1024 is as high as you can get at present.
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rick5446
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25. June 2006 @ 13:23 |
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sammorris..What MEM do suggest
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25. June 2006 @ 13:30 |
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Corsair. Value Select or XMS stuff. Latencies aren't terribly important for most, I've chosen Value Select CAS3 for my new PC and don't expect any problems. It's top quality stuff. You'd also be fine with OCZ and Crucial Ballistix but for the money, Corsair VS is excellent.
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25. June 2006 @ 13:48 |
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I'd recommend corsair XMS or OCZ over value select but that's just my opinion and you didn't ask me. Actually it also depends on what memory you already have and if it is good quality as well as dual channel. If it is both then you could consider getting another same size module of it. It also depends how many memory slots you have. It might be better to just start with a set of fresh/new memory modules. 2 512 sticks or 2 1024 sticks.
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 25. June 2006 @ 14:05
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InvGIR
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25. June 2006 @ 13:53 |
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Personally I'd get Corsair XMS RAM as I'm always very weary of 'value' RAM.
Dual Channel only has effect if you buy dual channel RAM, if you buy two sticks of 512MB RAM seperatly even if they are the same timings and make they will not have the dual channel ability. Also your motherboard has to have Dual Channel capabilities.
Also note that Dual Channel RAM only increases the performance over buying two sticks of the same RAM by about 5%-10% it is much more of a marketing gimick than a proper technical item.
I would say go for two sticks of 512MB Corsair XMS DDR RAM as it has a better reliability and performance percentage than the same of 2 x 1024MB - basicaly the less MB in a stick of RAM the more likely it is that the RAM is all perfectly stable and will run really well without any problems.
One thing that you haven't mentioned is what you use your PC for, gaming, video editing, audio editing, word processing, etc. - knowing this means we can easily be able to know the sort/amount of RAM you are in need of.
What I have;
AMD Althon 3000+ 2.0ghz Socket 754 - Clocked to 2.40ghz - Stable
Akasa LED cooler - AK-855-BL
Winfast NFS250 motherboard
Winfast GeForce 6200TD - Unlocked to 8 pipelines and increased mhz, better preformance than 6600vanilla
1256MB Kingston DDR RAM
500W Magna PSU - ATX500W
DVD Reader
DVD±RW
1 Blue and Red LED case fan
1 Blue, Green and Red LED case fan
What I am getting;
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rick5446
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25. June 2006 @ 14:17 |
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InvGIR..Mostly Video & Audio conversions & Backing up DVD'S
Most used Programs
Dr Divx
Auto Gordian Knot
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MainConcept [more so then ProCoder]
Womble Mpeg VCR... For all TV capture
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AfterDawn Addict
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25. June 2006 @ 14:22 |
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"value" RAM is usually admittedly cause for concern, but not with corsair. Another member of aD, namely crowy has overclocked an Athlon64 X2 by FORTY PERCENT using value select RAM. You'd never make half that with the dodgy value RAM that plagues the market thesedays...
InvGIR: are you sure about that? I have two sets of DDR RAM and was told by a PC repair shop that as long as they're in the dual channel slots they'll run in DC mode (even with a 333FSB.... so i was a bit sceptical). As far as I knew, matched sets were just two of the exact same, so guaranteed for DC mode. Plenty of systems run stable with 2GB of RAM, and that's what I'd recommend for those programs, but I suppose unless you do go mad, 1 would probably be enough.
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InvGIR
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25. June 2006 @ 14:24 |
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So a fair amount of audio/video editing/converting, this means that you'll be needing a fair amount of RAM as I know (from lots of experience) video editing/encoding takes a lot of RAM, and the more you have the faster your processes will run.
I'd say you are going to want to get 2x 1024MB Corsair XMS RAM to give your PC the power and ability to keep it running well with the things you are using it for. - Also this is really the best you can get as your motherboard only has the 2 channels.
sammorris: Yes I am sure of this. There are slight differences in RAM due to impurities in the slicone, DC RAM is made of identical chips from the same batch of silicone. Standard RAM is made from all different silicone/chip batches and can contain different impurities which means it has slight different power ablities etc.
What I have;
AMD Althon 3000+ 2.0ghz Socket 754 - Clocked to 2.40ghz - Stable
Akasa LED cooler - AK-855-BL
Winfast NFS250 motherboard
Winfast GeForce 6200TD - Unlocked to 8 pipelines and increased mhz, better preformance than 6600vanilla
1256MB Kingston DDR RAM
500W Magna PSU - ATX500W
DVD Reader
DVD±RW
1 Blue and Red LED case fan
1 Blue, Green and Red LED case fan
What I am getting;
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 25. June 2006 @ 14:37
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rick5446
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25. June 2006 @ 14:45 |
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InvGIR..So far the problem I've had is CPU Consumption..I'm going to buy a Dual Core..Anybody got a suggestion over & above this particular one..or does this look like a decent system for the money
BAREBONES System
Processor:
AMD Athlon 64 x2 4200+ Dual Core (2000FSB) 64bit CPU
CPU Fan: AMD Heavy Duty Cooling Fan With Heat Sink
Motherboard: ASUS A8N-SLI Socket 939 new 64 bit CPU support
Memory: not included (supports up to 4GB DDR400)
PCI Express: 16x DUAL SLI PCI-Express slot
IDE/SATA: Supports Four Serial ATA and four IDE ATA 133 devices
PSI: 3 PCI slots and 2 16x PCI Express slots
Ports: 6 USB 2.0 ports two iEEE Fire Wire ports
Sound: AC 97 6 channel 5.1 digital sound (onboard)
Network: 10/100 RJ45 network card (Ethernet, cable or DSL)
Ports: 1 serial, 1 parallel, 1 microphone jack
Case: Black Neon Mid Tower 450W (upgrade to 600w add $25)
Case Bays: 4 external 5.25", 1 external 3.5" , 6 internal 3.5" bays
Cooling Fan 80mm case fan with neon light
MICRO ONE COMPUTERS... $569.00+$35.00shipping
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InvGIR
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25. June 2006 @ 15:10 |
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Well in my personal views the 4200+ isn't the best value for money in CPUs, the 4400+ has a 1MB cache whereas the 4200+ has a 512MB cache, making it a bit slower (ignoring the GHz speed).
The motherboard is a good one, I would like to build a PC with an Asus A8N series motherboard. Asus appear to be a strong force in computer parts thesedays.
I don't know much about the price of PC parts outside of the UK so can't help much really, although I will list the main parts I would recomend.
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+
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CPU: AMD Opteron 148 (single core)/ 170 (dual core)*
Motherboard: Asus A8N series
RAM: 2GB Corsair XMS - running as 2 x 1024MB (Dual Channel system).
* The Opterons are designed for servers and so are stress tested a lot, which means that they are great OC chips, if you aren't interested in OC then the 4400+ is the best bet.
What I have;
AMD Althon 3000+ 2.0ghz Socket 754 - Clocked to 2.40ghz - Stable
Akasa LED cooler - AK-855-BL
Winfast NFS250 motherboard
Winfast GeForce 6200TD - Unlocked to 8 pipelines and increased mhz, better preformance than 6600vanilla
1256MB Kingston DDR RAM
500W Magna PSU - ATX500W
DVD Reader
DVD±RW
1 Blue and Red LED case fan
1 Blue, Green and Red LED case fan
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rick5446
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25. June 2006 @ 15:30 |
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InvGIR..Well what do U think of the 3800+ heard a lot of good about this one
System Configuration:
Processor:
AMD Athlon 64 x2 3800+ Dual Core (2000FSB) 64bit CPU
CPU Fan: AMD Heavy Duty Cooling Fan With Heat Sink
Motherboard: ASUS A8N-SLI Socket 939 new 64 bit CPU support
Memory: not included (supports up to 4GB DDR400)
PCI Express: 16x DUAL SLI PCI-Express slot
IDE/SATA: Supports Four Serial ATA and four IDE ATA 133 devices
PSI: 3 PCI slots and 2 16x PCI Express slots
Ports: 6 USB 2.0 ports two iEEE Fire Wire ports
Sound: AC 97 6 channel 5.1 digital sound (onboard)
Network: 10/100 RJ45 network card (Ethernet, cable or DSL)
Ports: 1 serial, 1 parallel, 1 microphone jack
Case: Black Neon Mid Tower 450W (front USB & Fire Wire)
Case Bays: 4 external 5.25", 1 external 3.5" , 6 internal 3.5" bays
Cooling Fan 80mm case fan with neon light
$499.00+$35.00 shipping
Come-on all U good people help me out here..I'm definetly going to buy a new system..if it does'nt crunch my pocket book
Anybody know the MGz of these diff CPU's or where U can find the definitions
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