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24. June 2009 @ 14:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Sophocles:
Dump files are usually reported system error files that can build over time. It should be safe to delete them.

I had a thought about that. Still to green LOL! Guess im just not confident enough yet.



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Originally posted by Sophocles:
Dump files are usually reported system error files that can build over time. It should be safe to delete them.

and that is what they were from.. all the BSOD's i got when i had the memory problems a few weeks back. i just deleted them all and all is well. just gained 246gb back..lol
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Originally posted by Sophocles:
Dump files are usually reported system error files that can build over time. It should be safe to delete them.

I had a thought about that. Still to green LOL! Guess im just not confident enough yet.

Oman7,
We could always paint you blue and ship you to the Dodgers! ROFLMSOAO!!

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25. June 2009 @ 00:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LOL!!! :D I guess im just afraid of looking stupid ;)



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
LOL!!! :D I guess im just afraid of looking stupid ;)

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Well then we could paint your shoes white and ship you to Oakland! LOL!!

Just funnin you,
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Wow! Spendy little intel micro Atx board! Yes, im looking at the intel side of things for once LOL! I promised myself, the next build I work on, would be an intel. I gotta give them at least one more shot. Everybody deserves at least 2 chances!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130227
Sure is looking like an i7 build is gonna be fairly spendy! Well...I am a few months out, on deciding on something :D No doubt i7 will drop at least a little. But who knows what will happen with the economy in that time. Not really into politics/economy. I suppose this thread isn't either LOL!



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Wow! Spendy little intel micro Atx board! Yes, im looking at the intel side of things for once LOL! I promised myself, the next build I work on, would be an intel. I gotta give them at least one more shot. Everybody deserves at least 2 chances!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130227
Sure is looking like an i7 build is gonna be fairly spendy! Well...I am a few months out, on deciding on something :D No doubt i7 will drop at least a little. But who knows what will happen with the economy in that time. Not really into politics/economy. I suppose this thread isn't either LOL!

Oman7,
I just heard something on the radio on Saturday where i7 production is being switched to a server chip based on i7. I haven't heard anything to confirm it yet, but it's a reasonable possibility because Intel has discussed doing just that with i7. I also think that the switch to another different socket for i5 even helps doom i7 even more, by eliminating an upgrade path to the i7 from i5 without having to change platforms, yet again. Perhaps in a different economy it would work, but right now to me, it's the wrong move at the wrong time. Nothing more than my opinion of course, but it is based on the facts of what's going on right now and the effects it's been having on everything in our everyday lives. Believe me when I say that I hope that I am wrong, but I just don't think so!

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i7 will become the server grade/ultimate enthusiast choice, where as i5 should be more main stream/ gamer versions.

i.e 6 core will hit i7, about 6 months to a year if not longer before i5 and it has full dual 16x PCIE2.0 slots and 16/16/8 for tri sli, and with NF200 full Tri SLI.

where as P55 only has tri SLI with the NF200, and 8/8 dual card configuration



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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
i7 will become the server grade/ultimate enthusiast choice, where as i5 should be more main stream/ gamer versions.

i.e 6 core will hit i7, about 6 months to a year if not longer before i5 and it has full dual 16x PCIE2.0 slots and 16/16/8 for tri sli, and with NF200 full Tri SLI.

where as P55 only has tri SLI with the NF200, and 8/8 dual card configuration

Shaff,
I hear what you are saying, and I hope the economy has come around some by then, but all we can do is wait and see. There's just no precedent for what is going on with the world's economy right now, so there's no model to follow. 1929 was completely different and look what happened to the world then, and look at how long things took to recover! I do know this! Recovery is a long way off, and things are going to get much worse, before they get better. It took time for the world to get in the shape it's in and it's going to take a lot of time to repair all the damage that has been done to get things back on an even keel.

Personally I believe Nostradamus. I think the end is getting close. Man is destroying himself, and the world with him. I don't think I will be around to see what happens, but I do sympathize with the people who I'll leave behind. So much is changing in the world, and not just with the people. It's no longer just about money. Climate changes and Weather pattern changes, caused by the shift in Ocean currents due to the Salinity of the ocean water that's being diluted by the melting of fresh water into the oceans by rapidly vanishing glaciers that have existed for thousands of years.

California has been waiting for "the big one" since long before the great San Fransisco Earthquake. Things are happening here right now that defy explanation! About a month and a half ago, about 90 miles from here, the Saltin Sea suddenly had a rise in temperature of 2 degrees in one day. That doesn't sound like very much, but it can only mean one thing! The earth is getting hotter closer to the surface, and that means magma is pushing closer to the surface, and the pressures within the earth are building up, and it's only a matter of time before the plates finally let go. We are starting to see an upheaval, like what created the great mountain ranges of the world. I have a genuine Civil War Cannonball that's 143 years old that Russell found sticking up out of the ground in plain sight! It wasn't there a few days before he pried it out of the ground. Someone would have seen it if it was. Earthquakes are increasing in number and strength, volcanoes are becoming active all the way up the Pacific coast from the South America to Alaska, and that's only here. Much the same can be said for Europe, Asia and Australia as well. I could be wrong, but I think that in a few years, computers will have taken a back seat to the things that are going on around us. No one knows when, but they do know there's no if about it. The big one will happen, and there's nothing that can be done to stop it. Where man will go from there is a total unknown!

A little off topic, but it will ultimately have an effect on all of us computer enthusiasts!

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25. June 2009 @ 08:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
Trimming is one thing, not stocking any is different. Samsung and Pioneer are now the only S-ATA DVD burner providers at newegg, and Pioneer only have one model left in stock. Most of the IDE ones are fast disappearing as well. It doesn't seem to have happened with many other components...

maybe im missing part of the convo here. but there is way more than those 2 with sata interface.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLis...06820&name=SATA

7 different manufacture's to choose from but 1 i wouldnt recomend to my worse enemy..lol
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im showing 3 optiarc burners in stock
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcom...N82E16827118033



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I don't really see what need there is to preserve an upgrade path from a mainstream platform to the elite top-end solution. i5 and i7 will be so comparable, there's no need to upgrade to i7 from it. i7 is simply what you buy if you want the top end. I don't really conside the different sockets a problem. You buy an i7 with an i7 board and it just works, no risk of the CPU not being detected due to BIOS problems and s on.
Most gaming builds for $1000+ are going i7 these days. That's a pretty good indication that the technology is worthwhile.
Is P55 seriously only 8x/8x again? I have to say, that is a big blow to i5 for me. The DX11 generation of graphics cards are going to be severely set back by that.
We'll leave the off-topic doomsday theories behind if you don't mind. I appreciate your thought, but the fact that the world is allegedly coming to an end doesn't have much to do with i7.
Rob, Omega: Yes, newegg have taken another batch. There literally were only those drives in stock a few days ago. What is wrong with the people reviewing the LG GH22NS50, or should I say, the single person that's reviewed it 10 times. It's a poor decision on the part of LG to adware their drives, but it's so easy to get past stuff like that...



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25. June 2009 @ 15:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Haha all this Doomsday talk makes me glad I live in Wisconsin. The weather's already wacky here year round so I'm used to it! lol Not to mention I won't be getting covered with water any time soon. The soil is way too sandy to even have a flood around here.

Wow Newegg is having a tough time with their drives! One company I seriously hope doesn't go under :S

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Is P55 seriously only 8x/8x again? I have to say, that is a big blow to i5 for me. The DX11 generation of graphics cards are going to be severely set back by that.
Ouch. Not good for technology that fast. I personally might look into i5 once the tech matures a little. Though I want to see what AMD does with AM3 before I make my decision. They have seriously brought it back in a big way. Hopefully we see some sort of i7-ish behemoth from them.



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nforce 200 can provide full 16/16/16. ad its just there for the pcie slots like i i5, no SB to currpt HDDs and no nb to mess voerclocking



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Just read there'll apparently be a P57 chipset? Interesting development, perhaps that will address the issues. I doubt Core 2's successor will be implemented without full PCIe support.
Wasn't the nforce 200 supposed to cause reliability issues?



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P57 sounds like it could be a winner. I bet the Gigabyte boards will be popular as ever :P



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p57s only updatwe is including intels ibex peak



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Thing is - all the P55 boards have a northbridge. The only P57 boards I've seen so far (all Asus ones) don't have one at all. Why?



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the p55 shouldnt have a nb iicr



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Every P55 board I've seen so far has one, or there's a big heatsink covering bare PCB...



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its plainly for looks



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I lol'ed. Not every manufacturer but one would put a pointless heatsink on all of their boards. There's clearly a northbridge there.



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well then un lol

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3570&p=2




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A Lynnfield system only need two chips (CPU + PCH) while a Bloomfield system needs three (CPU + IOH + ICH)

The 16 PCIe 2.0 lanes can be configured as one x16 or two x8, allowing you enough bandwidth and very low latency to do things like CrossFire or SLI. Any additional PCIe lanes will branch off of what Intel is now calling the Platform Controller Hub (PCH). The first PCH is Intel?s P55 chipset; all you need is a Lynnfield CPU and the P55 PCH, no additional ICH is necessary as all of that functionality is embedded in the PCH.




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Here's something interesting.
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/20...an-appearance/1
No Northbridge here either, but look at the specified PCIe bandwidth.

Is there a possibility that something else is going in the space the MCH once occupied and is being cooled using a heatsink, since there's room for one?



not the sort of heatsink you'd include for looks. The higher end DG80 has nothing there.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m24/d...pg?t=1245985341
This Gigabyte board has nothing in the middle.

But this one does:





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Wait a minute, Shaff suspended permanently? What's he done now? lol



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