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PS3 Vs. XBOX 360
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bones2k
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15. August 2005 @ 23:13 |
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i have a ps2 i say it is better than xbox but i want a xbox only for the halos
the ps3 will be better that xbox 360
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chaos5258
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17. August 2005 @ 12:56 |
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Hey!! Its official now the Xbox 360 will come out for the holiday season and the basic kit witch is only the console and the controller is only $299 which is very cheap considering the original Xbox was almost $400 when it came out. The better deal though is in the $399 Xbox360 witch has all the stuff you'll want too buy anyway. It comes with the console, a 20 gig hard drive, a universal remote, a wireless controller(note basic version has wired controller), a wireless USB headset, ethernet cable, and high-definition AV cables both versions have an Xbox live silver subscription which is free. You'd be a complete idiot or really cheap to by the basic system considering the 20 gig hard drive seperate is already $100.Microsoft will also have other extras like a wireless ethernet adapter for sale.
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bones2k
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18. August 2005 @ 01:55 |
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i am getting the xbox360 and i am getting the ps3 as there will be games for the xbox 360 i will want and the ps3 there will be games i will want.
i want halos for the xbox360
and i will want the new final fantasy games for ps3
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18. August 2005 @ 06:00 |
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Xbox 360 has hd dvd and Ps3 has blue ray to play dvds I know blue ray is better but someone explain to me the stuff that makes blue ray better for playing dvds.
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chaos5258
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18. August 2005 @ 11:45 |
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The Blue ray uses a blue laser instead of the dvd's red laser (witch the 360 still uses) but the blue ray disc is the most impressive which can hold more than 50 gigs of data compared to 360's dual layer dvd which can only hold about 18 gigs that means longer games and more features for the PS3. But the blue ray is still compatible with dvd and the quality is still High-definition no matter what.
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18. August 2005 @ 14:40 |
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It's so funny to see someone come up with this thread again. It's doing the exact same thing the old one did, people are flaming and probally going to get banned...
The Xbox 360's basic version is $300, the one that includes the HDD is $400. This is such a slap in the face, everyone was all against the PS3 for not including it, now MS won't either, they'll just offer you one bundled with a bunch of accessories and say they are "included it".
The huge argument for the 360 was that with an included drive, drive caching would be a default procedure for programmers. Now it's in the exact same spot as the PS3, except instead of powerful hardware for $400 like PS3, they are just going to throw in a bunch of accesories.
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,122232,tk,dn081705X,00.asp
Bend over everyone, Microsoft is back to their old self.
Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.
Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.
Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K
My advice: Wait for PS3.
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HipN
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18. August 2005 @ 15:11 |
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I read that PS3 will probably have Wifi internet or online thingy...and X360 will stay with ethernet.
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Virtus
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20. August 2005 @ 00:19 |
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Last time I looked and compared the 2, on basics of hardware I personally chose the PS3, but things has changed, blablabla
so I keep it to this, I wil just lay my trust on Sony, Im not going to be extreme pro Sono or what ever, trying to sell the PS3 to someone else as many here trys ^^. I have seen the discussions, checked the lists, and Im going for the PS3, just like the different range of games, gfx doesnt mather to me a bit, I prefer a great gameplay, good storyline, agreeable gfx, long range of options, and weapons. Normally I had Nintendo products, simply because of the games, nothing more, nothing less, cause, you can have and/or put in everything you want, but in the end, it comes down on simply playing games, Im not going to put a console in my room for the show, or hang it on the wall, just PLAY ^^
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20. August 2005 @ 00:21 |
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20. August 2005 @ 10:27 |
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PS3 has got the new cell technology but xbox 360 has got 2 processors
in my opinion is im getting BOTH!
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omegamon
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20. August 2005 @ 16:59 |
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oke ill settle this now.
the 360 has 3, 3.2 ghz prosesors that make up for 1 terra flop.
the ps3 has got 1 cell chip that exists of 8 cores all aqctive running at 2 teraflops but there alr always 7 running so itll be 1.8 terraflops.
so ps3 is 2 as fast as 360 but the 360 is 2 as powerfull it has a larger l2 cache and more mb ram
that make up fore eachother
so in preformance they are the same.
about the graphics ... its not siure but sony says that the ps3 is powerfull and fast enough to use 3 gforce 6800
so wat the xbox on the E3 was empty and the games were running on 4 to 5 gforce 6800 and the graphics were still not that great becouse the 360 is made for better.
but that is something we all will see.
and something else ill buye them all.
some usefull info.
360 has got about 200 titles wayting for the release date.
ps3 has got over 15.000!!!.
yes fifteen thousend!!!
oke end of the info:P
ps3 is more made for single player and 360 for multiplayer you can see.
but so far we still agree that the 3601 and ps3 are the seme in the specs but now there is something that i myself ditnot beleve at first.
the thing that makes the 360 better than ps3!
tha online service
ps3 has a memory bantwith of 26.5 gb a second! :P LOL
and the 360 has .. oke hold your breath ....256gigs a second!!!!!!!!
i couldnt beleve it myself so i emaild all the sites and called to microsoft and got the head of the 360 development department and he confirmed all the numbers one by one i quote "yes the numbers are 2, 5, 6, and not 2, 5, dot 6"
"so it is twohundred and fifty six gb a second"
oke now i must apolagise for my englich becouse i typed this really fast and diddnt fell for a chekup :P
lol but no matter wat hapens im gonna buye 360, ps3, and the revolution.
p.s.
the revolution is taken back to the drawing board becouse the console was not hd compattable and the other 2 were so now revolution is hd to :P
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21. August 2005 @ 18:55 |
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The PS3's GPU is capable of 1.8 TFLOPS. The XBox 360's overall performance, both GPU and CPU, is 1 teraflop. The PS3 is 2 TFLOPS overall.
The PS3's SPEs, seven operation, each has their own 256KB LS (load store, or cache, relative to an L2 cache. They both have 512MB of RAM, lukily the PS3 has 256MB of the 3.2GHz XDR RAM, and the Xbox 360 is all 700MHz.
The XBox has a single CPU, three cores. The fact that it all operates in a single socket on one die sharing the FBS is much different than multiple CPU's.
SO much of your information, all of you, is misconstrued. Almost every in these forums argument is anecdotal.
Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.
Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.
Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K
My advice: Wait for PS3.
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21. August 2005 @ 18:58 |
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I missed that. The 256 GB/s overall system bandwidth is firely propanganda. This measure includes the EDRAM which is around this figure and blazing fast.
The fact is, is that there is 10MB of it and it is on a daughterboard of the ATI GPU. The EDRAM is that fast, but the bandwith between the daughter board and main board of the GPU is some ~32 GB/s.
This is a significant bottle neck that leaves that figure total BS.
Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.
Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.
Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K
My advice: Wait for PS3.
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gatmann
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21. August 2005 @ 23:12 |
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The PS3 probably will be better, because there must be a reason for their high price dont you think!?!?
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21. August 2005 @ 23:40 |
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This post goes out to Dan1677.
What a kill joy you are!!!
Hey Pippa, don't mean to be a killjoy. I was exactly the same years ago. I guess when you get a bit older you can just sit back and think "Who cares which is better, just get both!". But you're right, I remember having arguments and the great decision between 3do or Jaguar......and they both sucked anyway but at the time 3do had Need for Speed and Road Rash so it ruled! Heck i bought a Snes the day it came out and then wish I bought a Megadrive. Well enjoy the thread.......and in true spirit of the thread...PS3 will be better, oh wait no Xbox 360.....!!! Jus' kidding. :oP Oh and as for the car park comment can I say at this point I was in the Royal Marines for 10 years? ;oD
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omegamon
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22. August 2005 @ 04:36 |
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i diddnt know the ps3 was more expansive i heard from the shops in europe that the 360 will be 345 euro and the ps3 265 euro:S
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omegamon
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22. August 2005 @ 04:37 |
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i diddnt know the ps3 was more expansive i heard from the shops in europe that the 360 will be 345 euro and the ps3 265 euro:S
but is the ps3 is more expansive itll be becouse sony spent a lot of money on the development of the cell
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omegamon
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22. August 2005 @ 04:37 |
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i diddnt know the ps3 was more expansive i heard from the shops in europe that the 360 will be 345 euro and the ps3 265 euro:S
but is the ps3 is more expansive itll be becouse sony spent a lot of money on the development of the cell
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omegamon
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22. August 2005 @ 04:50 |
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Xbox 360 System Performance Specifications
Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU
· Three symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each
· Two hardware threads per core; six hardware threads total
· VMX-128 vector unit per core; three total
· 128 VMX-128 registers per hardware thread
· 1 MB L2 cache
CPU Game Math Performance
· 9 billion dot product operations per second
Custom ATI Graphics Processor
· 10 MB of embedded DRAM
· 48-way parallel floating-point dynamically scheduled shader pipelines
· Unified shader architecture
Polygon Performance
· 500 million triangles per second
Pixel Fill Rate
· 16 gigasamples per second fill rate using 4x MSAA
Shader Performance
· 48 billion shader operations per second
Memory
· 512 MB of 700 MHz GDDR3 RAM
· Unified memory architecture
Memory Bandwidth
· 22.4 GB/s memory interface bus bandwidth
· 256 GB/s memory bandwidth to EDRAM
· 21.6 GB/s front-side bus
Overall System Floating-Point Performance
· 1 teraflop
Storage
· Detachable and upgradeable 20GB hard drive
· 12x dual-layer DVD-ROM
· Memory Unit support starting at 64 MB
I/O
· Support for up to four wireless game controllers
· Three USB 2.0 ports
· Two memory unit slots
Optimized for Online
· Instant, out-of-the-box access to Xbox Live features with broadband service, including Xbox Live Marketplace for downloadable content, gamer profile for digital identity, and voice chat to talk to friends while playing games, watching movies, or listening to music
· Built-in Ethernet port
· Wi-Fi ready: 802.11a, 802.11b, and 802.11g
· Video camera ready
Digital Media Support
· Support for DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, CD-DA, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 CD, JPEG Photo CD
· Ability to stream media from portable music devices, digital cameras and Windows XP-based PCs
· Ability to rip music to the Xbox 360 hard drive
· Custom playlists in every game
· Built-in Media Center Extender for Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
· Interactive, full-screen 3-D visualizers
High-Definition Game Support
· All games supported at 16:9, 720p, and 1080i, anti-aliasing
· Standard-definition and high-definition video output supported
Audio
· Multi-channel surround sound output
· Supports 48KHz 16-bit audio
· 320 independent decompression channels
· 32-bit audio processing
· Over 256 audio channels
System Orientation
· Stands vertically or horizontally
Customizable Face Plates
· Interchangeable to personalize the console
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omegamon
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22. August 2005 @ 05:08 |
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PLAYSTATION®3 Specifications
CPU
--Cell Processor PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
-1 VMX vector unit per core
-512KB L2 cache
-7 x SPE @3.2GHz
-7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
-7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
-* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy total floating point performance : 218 GFLOPS
GPU
--RSX @550MHz
-1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
-Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
-Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines
Sound
-Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-base processing)
Memory
-256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz
-256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz
System Bandwidth
-Main RAM 25.6GB/s
-VRAM 22.4GB/s
-RSX 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)SB 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)
System Floating Point Performance
2 TFLOPS
Storage
--HDD
-Detachable 2.5? HDD slot x 1
I/O
--USB
-Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)
--Memory Stick
-standard/Duo, PRO x 1
--SD
-standard/mini x 1
--CompactFlash
-(Type I, II) x 1
Communication
--Ethernet
-(10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3(input x 1 + output x 2)
--Wi-Fi
-IEEE 802.11 b/g
--Bluetooth
-Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)
Controller
-Bluetooth (up to 7)
-USB2.0 (wired)
-Wi-Fi (PSP®)
-Network (over IP)
AV Output
--Screen size
-480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
--HDMI
-HDMI out x 2
--Analog
-AV MULTI OUT x 1
--Digital audio
-DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1
Disc media* read only
--CD
-PlayStation® CD-ROM
-PlayStation®2 CD-ROM
-CD-DA CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW
-SACD SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD
-DualDisc DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)
--DVD
-PlayStation®2 DVD-ROM
-PLAYSTATION®3 DVD-ROM
-DVD-Video DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW
--Blu-ray Disc PLAYSTATION®3 BD-ROM
BD-Video BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE
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Virtus
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22. August 2005 @ 06:13 |
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There is no need to post everything twice :D
But the PS3 price wont be 265, I say above the 500 already, cause if the Price would be 265, I wouldnt expect to get incredible quality for that price, Im better off buying 2 PS2's. The PS3 is going to be expensiver then the Xbox360 when its coming out, since the Xbox360 is going to be released sooner, the price of it wil be lowered during the time.
And if the PS3 has a line-up of 15 000 games, as someone mentioned before, that would mean Sony could easaly release 1 or 2 games a week, and keep that up for more then 10 years,
On first, that is great, more games, more fun, more options, but for Sony self it wouldnt pay of more I think, since every consumer has a budget, and wont buy everything, or wont be able to buy everything, but if they let the suplys of games last for 30 years, new products, from Microsoft, Nintendo, or even their own wil automaticly make the wild stock of games useless and a waste of money.
But I think/hope they have a plan for this
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omegamon
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22. August 2005 @ 06:22 |
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wow 500 omg thats a lot but its possible but i mentioned the 15000 games but as you know sony has got a lot of great games but 60 % of all the games are crap and about 60% of the 15000 will be the same still its a lot and i got that info from the E3 :P
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22. August 2005 @ 06:36 |
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PS3 is looking at $400 base price, 1 version, silver. Black and white may have been dropped.
The Xbox 360 is confirmed to come in a $300 package and $400 package.
The PS3 is a $400 piece of hardware, the Xbox 360 is $300 worth of hardware (retail price anyway, they are actually losing money). But to make the 360 look like it's a as good console they will throw in a bunch of accessories to make a $400 version too.
Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.
Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.
Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K
My advice: Wait for PS3.
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omegamon
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22. August 2005 @ 06:39 |
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ke but i think sony must have a lot of curage becouse they spent a lot of money on the cell
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22. August 2005 @ 07:33 |
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In my opinion both of these consoles look pretty good But I dont care how powerful the ps3 is because I mostly prefer xbox360.(well actualy you know what?...I should get both)
It seems to me that in some areas Ps3 is stronger and in others xbox 360 is stronger but both of these systems make up for their weaknesses like xbox 360 has 256gigs and the Ps3 has more terraflop power. And even if Ps3 does have better graphics I wouldnt count xbox 360 out of this fight just jet.
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