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Yujenh
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13. August 2007 @ 17:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hello guys,
i just took out couple spindle of old stock up ty's.
there are some tyg02 and some 03's and i think
some of them might be value line. is there anyway
you can tell which is which?? i just need to know
which is value line and which one is the premium lines.
so i wont waste the premium ones as give aways.
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13. August 2007 @ 18:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by cincyrob:
we talked about them 8x dvd-r DL TY's in the old thread. a friend pointed this link out to me for some.. they look sweet but when ya look at the sticker price yuor jaw will drop...

http://tapeandmedia.com/dvd-r_dual_layer_taiyo_yuden_ijp.asp

they say they are out of stock... i wonder how many docTY bought up????lmao
What?? TY doesn't make +R DL's yet? I wonder if they ever will? I think my Plextor 716-A with 1.10 firmware will burn -R DL's ok but I've never tried it. Has anyone else with this model of Plextor?
Yujenh
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13. August 2007 @ 19:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
first of all, you might need to download a new firmware.
i think its 1.11. i am not sure about this but
im sure somebody else will confirm this for you.
well, i got couple of the px716
and it does burn DL but at 4x for the +r.
it doesnt say anything about dl-r so i assume
it wont burn them.
However, I have not burn any dl before.
I am sure about those because I read them
out of the box.
Yujenh
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13. August 2007 @ 19:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
this is your lucky day,
got the link for you for the new firmware

http://www.plextor.com/english/support/downloads/firm_716.htm
bratcher
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13. August 2007 @ 19:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Yujenh:
first of all, you might need to download a new firmware.
i think its 1.11. i am not sure about this but
im sure somebody else will confirm this for you.
well, i got couple of the px716
and it does burn DL but at 4x for the +r.
it doesnt say anything about dl-r so i assume
it wont burn them.
However, I have not burn any dl before.
I am sure about those because I read them
out of the box.
Thanks for the info & the Plextor firmware link. I was just about to go there & you posted the link!!
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13. August 2007 @ 23:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
bratcher, yeah thaT 1.11 FIRMWARE BEEN OUT FOR AWHILE, the update had more to do with new Vista OS so you won't notice any difference if you have XP , i didn't

as far as the DL media the PX-716A is capable of burning EITHER the plus format or the dash format DVD+R DL / DVD-R DL up to 6x speed. so yes it will work
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14. August 2007 @ 09:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by aabbccdd:
bratcher, yeah thaT 1.11 FIRMWARE BEEN OUT FOR AWHILE, the update had more to do with new Vista OS so you won't notice any difference if you have XP , i didn't

as far as the DL media the PX-716A is capable of burning EITHER the plus format or the dash format DVD+R DL / DVD-R DL up to 6x speed. so yes it will work
But will it handle (correctly record) those new inverse stack DL's? I hope so!!
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15. August 2007 @ 07:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lately I have been getting a lot of TYs that burn about 20 to 40% and then I get a signal that the burn has not been completed probably due to faulty media. When I take them out they have a slightly different colored ring on the inner portion of the disc. This happens with both of my Lite-On 18A. Does anyone have any ideas?
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15. August 2007 @ 07:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by frbernard:
When I take them out they have a slightly different colored ring on the inner portion of the disc. Does anyone have any ideas?
That just means that the disc has been written to. Discs are written to from the center outward and since it stops half-way you notice the color change. Without you giving specifics as to what you're using (i.e. hw and sw) it's hard to guesstimate what's going on.




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15. August 2007 @ 10:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am using two Lite-On DVDRWLH-18A1P burners and a combination of any dvd and clone dvd for software.
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Originally posted by frbernard:
Lately I have been getting a lot of TYs that burn about 20 to 40% and then I get a signal that the burn has not been completed probably due to faulty media. When I take them out they have a slightly different colored ring on the inner portion of the disc. This happens with both of my Lite-On 18A. Does anyone have any ideas?
frbernard,
You have the LH-18A1P by lite-on right? I would look for the most recent f/w and see about updating your f/w. Here are the links (GLOH/GLOJ) for the 2 most recent that are giving good results and burning TY's like a champ. :) Take into consideration that these are the patched f/w versions and will enable fb/eos for your lite-on. :D You can d/l the latest official f/w from lite-on, here.

hth.....

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15. August 2007 @ 12:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by frbernard:
I am using two Lite-On DVDRWLH-18A1P burners and a combination of any dvd and clone dvd for software.
What speed DVDs are you using and what speed are you burning at? Are you multitasking while burning? These seems minor but along with have the lastest FW as GM as provided to you, they make a difference.

Good luck.


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15. August 2007 @ 12:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I was using 8x dvds and the speed was (I think) automatic maximum
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15. August 2007 @ 13:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not good bro...I burn at half of the rated speed of the media for best outputs...but that just me. The 8x really should be burned at 4x. I have burned with faster speeds when I use overspeed but really dont often do that just to play and test... half the rated speed is a good formula to follow...good luck

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15. August 2007 @ 13:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by frbernard:
Lately I have been getting a lot of TYs that burn about 20 to 40% and then I get a signal that the burn has not been completed probably due to faulty media. When I take them out they have a slightly different colored ring on the inner portion of the disc. This happens with both of my Lite-On 18A. Does anyone have any ideas?
i have that same drive as do a few others here. when i first got mine i went through 3 drives before they got the firmware right to burn 8x TY media. i had the same problem as you are ahven right now. i updated to the GLOH firmware and have been burning TY's with ease now(well the 8x that was given me the problem).

As greensman said try one of the 2 newest FirmWare updates, GLOH/GLOJ.

myself i like the GLOH better. but bot make that drive 100% better.

update to one of those FW's and your problems should be solved..
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15. August 2007 @ 13:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ frbernard,

Update your firmware & burn @ 4x or maybe 6x. Greensman has gotten great burns using the 8x TY 02s.


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15. August 2007 @ 14:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
When I went to Lite-on, they said I was updated to gloj. I downloaded anyway. I couldn't find any place to download gloh. thanks for your suggestions, anyway. Maybe re-downloading will help.
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15. August 2007 @ 15:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the link up above that greensman gave will get you to both of them. the GLOH and GLOJ
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15. August 2007 @ 23:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by hobbit112:
@ frbernard,

Update your firmware & burn @ 4x or maybe 6x. Greensman has gotten great burns using the 8x TY 02s.
i transcode and burn at 8x using the TYGO2s or the TYGO3s when i do the store bought DVD with clonedvd 2 and get a good quality score. when i make a copy of the backup either from an ISO file or "on the fly" burning at 8x gives me horrible quality scores burning at 6x or 4x the quality scores are better but still never very good
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16. August 2007 @ 04:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
now thats funny. i get just the flip of that. when i burn on the fly i get great results. all the 98 scores i have gotten have been on the fly. and when i rip to my hdd then copy from that my scores drop. i havent noticed any playback problems from the 2 ways, just the scan scores.

heck going from disc to disc is the way i do 98% of all my burns.
and all i have been useing lately are my Hub printable 16x+r TY's i am actually burning one here in the next few mins. but i am useing files from my HDD, and not on the fly...lol
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Hmmmm, burn on the fly, haven't done that. I always do the 2-step, rip to hard disk, then burn. I generally get 93-95 scores using Verb 8x -Rs or TY 16x +Rs. I get better results with the 16x disks on my Liteys (LH-20A1Hs).

Never gotten a 98, might have to give that burn-on-the-fly a try. (Where's a disk, where's a disk!)


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16. August 2007 @ 05:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@hobbit

ive only gotten 1 98 score on a TY. about 10 i guess total have been on 16x+r Verbs. all of them have been on the fly.
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16. August 2007 @ 07:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
now here is the scan of the movie i just did from a rip to my HDD. its on a 16x+r hub printable TY.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/caribbean.png

not bad but ive had alot better
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17. August 2007 @ 07:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Not good bro...I burn at half of the rated speed of the media for best outputs...but that just me. The 8x really should be burned at 4x. I have burned with faster speeds when I use overspeed but really dont often do that just to play and test... half the rated speed is a good formula to follow...good luck
hmm, i do full speed all the time, and on the fly often myself and i still get 90-95 scores. as long as i get at least 90 im happy
i actually once ran two dvd burns at the same time at 16x just to see how well it worked and i still got 92 on both discs
speed is important to me. i do more burning than i have time for ;)

on a side note i came across some permanent markers that write really well on the TY silver lacquers, im trying to find somewhere to buy them in packs to save on bulk but no luck. they are duramark CEB50090. suggested for anyone who doesnt like using ultra fine tips lol. i'll be the guinea pig and make sure that i find ones that write as well as the ones i currently have

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Well ILL have to play around... that was a formula that Ive stuck to from way back [when 8x first came out] on different burns though, I was having problems then...

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