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17. July 2008 @ 01:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have a question?????????????????? my rig is at cyberpower now with in it:

E6850
ASUS striker II formula
2 gb corsair value select ddr2 800mhz
320 MB EVGA 8800GTS superclocked
Tagen 1100 watt power supply
150 gb raptor western digital 10,000 rpm
500gb western digital 7200 rpm
vista ultimate 32 bit
sony 16x dvd burner
16x dvd rom
coolermaster liquid cpu cooler

question is cyberpower what's to know if I'll be willing to swap my Strker II formula for a EVGA 780i motherboard at this point I don't know If it's the win version [PART # 132-YW-E178-A1 ] or the older one [part#132-CK-NF78-A1 ]but I've had nothing but issues with ASUS motherboards , I started with a ASUS striker Extreme, and went through 5 of them in 10 month's, and then they up graded me to ASUS striker II formula . It ran 2 day's !!! then I shipped it to cyberpower , they changed motherboard and put another Striker II Formula in it . and claim It's ran for them since last Friday , but they want me to change , and take the EVGA board. what do you fine folk's think I should do????????????I need a answer by morning!!! And I'll Most likely go with your advice!!!!!! a big difference is warranty ASUS 3 years , EVGA has a limmited life time warranty, ASUS has suprime fx sound card , EVGA has on board sound

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I know that you've really looked at ASUS so far but there are some other good candidates out there. ;) If you were buying today I wouldn't mention the options but building in a few months you have the ability to give it some more thought. ;)

Have you considered these??? ;) linky to DFI X48 mobos I included some Open Box deals too... saves a little money... but I understand if a person may NOT wanna deal with those. ;)

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someting is fish'ee about that 3 outta the 4 boards are Green are you trying to tell me someting greensman Go Green..lol they look good brother but that Memory Standard DDR2 800 think pushed me away can them boards not handle 1066 ? i'm sorry greens that's little bit more that..i can spend on a board..but to make you happy the nexts built is gonna be Green all Led's even the cooling flow..i think RedRob is headed that way towards dfi knowing that we work for a company called dsi..:)

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Originally posted by haskins69:
I have a question?????????????????? my rig is at cyberpower now with in it:

E6850
ASUS striker II formula
2 gb corsair value select ddr2 800mhz
320 MB EVGA 8800GTS superclocked
Tagen 1100 watt power supply
150 gb raptor western digital 10,000 rpm
500gb western digital 7200 rpm
vista ultimate 32 bit
sony 16x dvd burner
16x dvd rom
coolermaster liquid cpu cooler

question is cyberpower what's to know if I'll be willing to swap my Strker II formula for a EVGA 780i motherboard at this point I don't know If it's the win version [PART # 132-YW-E178-A1 ] or the older one [part#132-CK-NF78-A1 ]but I've had nothing but issues with ASUS motherboards , I started with a ASUS striker Extreme, and went through 5 of them in 10 month's, and then they up graded me to ASUS striker II formula . It ran 2 day's !!! then I shipped it to cyberpower , they changed motherboard and put another Striker II Formula in it . and claim It's ran for them since last Friday , but they want me to change , and take the EVGA board. what do you fine folk's think I should do????????????I need a answer by morning!!! And I'll Most likely go with your advice!!!!!! a big difference is warranty ASUS 3 years , EVGA has a limmited life time warranty, ASUS has suprime fx sound card , EVGA has on board sound
haskins...

I don't have any experience with the EVGA mobo but I can find out... I have a buddy at another forum that has used the 680i version and the last time that I talked to him he was looking at the newer mobos by EVGA... ;) I also have the Striker Extreme and it seems that I'm having issues as well... I haven't narrowed it down yet since I work, have 3 kiddies and I'm addicted to reading at Ad. :) If it were me, like my opinion means a thing, I would really consider that eVGA mobo.. :) Even tho it's a limited Lifetime warranty.... it's gotta be better than going thru 6-7 mobos in ONE year.... Of course I'm assuming you're NOT doing anything to sabotage the Strikers.. lol. j/k.. ;)

btw you can pick up a good little sound card for under a $100. ;)

good luck with your decision. :)

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haskins69, have you considered the Asus RAMPAGE FORMULA , thats what i would go with




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Originally posted by haskins69:
I have a question?????????????????? my rig is at cyberpower now with in it:

E6850
ASUS striker II formula
2 gb corsair value select ddr2 800mhz
320 MB EVGA 8800GTS superclocked
Tagen 1100 watt power supply
150 gb raptor western digital 10,000 rpm
500gb western digital 7200 rpm
vista ultimate 32 bit
sony 16x dvd burner
16x dvd rom
coolermaster liquid cpu cooler

question is cyberpower what's to know if I'll be willing to swap my Strker II formula for a EVGA 780i motherboard at this point I don't know If it's the win version [PART # 132-YW-E178-A1 ] or the older one [part#132-CK-NF78-A1 ]but I've had nothing but issues with ASUS motherboards , I started with a ASUS striker Extreme, and went through 5 of them in 10 month's, and then they up graded me to ASUS striker II formula . It ran 2 day's !!! then I shipped it to cyberpower , they changed motherboard and put another Striker II Formula in it . and claim It's ran for them since last Friday , but they want me to change , and take the EVGA board. what do you fine folk's think I should do????????????I need a answer by morning!!! And I'll Most likely go with your advice!!!!!! a big difference is warranty ASUS 3 years , EVGA has a limmited life time warranty, ASUS has suprime fx sound card , EVGA has on board sound

my friend i have read alittle on that board not to step on any bodies feet just alittle advice..in resent magazine that some people was'nt impressed with Nvidia's follow up to the popular 680i chipset they say the 780i felt like a retread of the original and lacked the support for the intel's top processor's...Plus the PCI express 2.0 was simply tacked on on as an extra chip and ddr3 support was glaringly absent..So Nvidia heard people's complaints and created the 790i Ultra it has PCI-e 2.0 +1,600mhz fsb support and ddr3 this board has the e-sata the others don't..i tell you this the 790i ran neck and neck with the Asus striker extreme 2 in some benchmarks it came a close second in memory testing but superior in the real world of gaming test....run with 790i Ultra might set you back abit $350.00

here's the link to it if you wanna see..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188025
it's your choice but if..i was a gamer..i would get this..

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Ok this is a warranty job from cyberpower they up me from "Striker extreme", to " Strker II formula " only after I went on theIr forum telling every one there about my issues with striker extreme {5x in 10 months } And after I posted E-mail address of President of cyberpower , head of tech support , and manger of tech support for all to see !!!! The President called following monday offering me Striker II formula , if I removed E-Mail adress form the forum. I looked it seemed to have less Issues than the striker extreme , and was a little more current by having 3 x pci x 16 plus a few other option's , so I took it they sent a retail box with all the parts so I changed it . It run 2 day's so I sent whole system back to them [the first time all other board changes I did ] they said they changed board again and it's ran for 3 day's , but they want me to take the EVGA board claiming that ASUS boaed has issues . so you see I only have 2 choices , 1 Keep the ASUS STRIKER II FORMULA or 2 take the EVGA 780i board the only info I'm lacking Is if it's the EVGA board with part # 132-YW-E178-A1 or With part # 132-CK-NF78-A1

So you see I my dilemma , stay with striker II formula { which is a 780i board ] Or go to EVGA 780i , which has two different models . I'll find out tomrrow which model it is their offering me .


SO I"ll ask again Do I Pick EVGA 780i [would be one of 2 models }
OR DO I STAY WITH ASUS STRIKER II FOMULA ??????
These are my only 2 option's!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by haskins69:


E6850
ASUS striker II formula
((2 gb corsair value select ddr2 800mhz))<this is all you got:)
320 MB EVGA 8800GTS superclocked
Tagen 1100 watt power supply
150 gb raptor western digital 10,000 rpm
500gb western digital 7200 rpm
vista ultimate 32 bit
sony 16x dvd burner
16x dvd rom
coolermaster liquid cpu cooler

question is cyberpower what's to know if I'll be willing to swap my Strker II formula for a EVGA 780i motherboard at this point I don't know If it's the win version [PART # 132-YW-E178-A1 ] or the older one [part#132-CK-NF78-A1 ]but I've had nothing but issues with ASUS motherboards , I started with a ASUS striker Extreme, and went through 5 of them in 10 month's, and then they up graded me to ASUS striker II formula . It ran 2 day's !!! then I shipped it to cyberpower , they changed motherboard and put another Striker II Formula in it . and claim It's ran for them since last Friday , but they want me to change , and take the EVGA board. what do you fine folk's think I should do????????????I need a answer by morning!!! And I'll Most likely go with your advice!!!!!! a big difference is warranty ASUS 3 years , EVGA has a limmited life time warranty, ASUS has suprime fx sound card , EVGA has on board sound

the problem is you only got 2 gb corsair value select ddr2 800mhz..and the EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 takes Memory Standard DDR2 800 (only) and the 132-YW-E178-A1 takes Standard DDR2 1066 Up to 1200MHz SLI-Ready Memory with EPP ...so i would go with the first one if you don't wanna move up to DDR2 1066 memory. comparsion link is below to see for yourself..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcom...N82E16813188024

to bad you can't talk them out of the 790i Ultra..lol

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Originally posted by rick5446:
The only thing that powers up is the fancy red Diodes they installed so U don't need a light. I still need a light.
That sounds like the many fault code LED's my motherboard has ie the lights all mean something ie here's all mine (MSI Platinum P35 board) -



In the bottom right hand corner there's a bank of different coloured LED's that light up in different ways depending on if there's a problem or if all's clear.
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Two of them, LED1 and LED3, indicate if the mainboard receives no power. The LEDs next to expansion slots light up when there is a card installed in the corresponding slot. The remaining LEDs around the chipset South Bridge serve to report possible malfunctions. The problem can be identified with 16 different LED combinations described in the user?s manual. This LED system serves as a specific POST-code alternative.
Not sure if that helps but it sounds similar



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hey peeps

on my old PC I had a built in bluetooth, can i move this to my new pc?
Is this something I can buy & install myself on the new pc?
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haskins69,
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SO I"ll ask again Do I Pick EVGA 780i [would be one of 2 models }
OR DO I STAY WITH ASUS STRIKER II FOMULA ??????These are my only 2 option's!!!!!!!!!!!

I would take the EVGA. The reviews show it as being a better than decent MB! I read through about 500 of them! The catch is which one! The # 132-CK-NF78-A1 would be the best choice in my eyes as it has a good track record. The # 132-YW-E178-A1 is a new motherboard and a big unknown at the moment as there was only 1 review. The other one listed is the # 123-YW-E175-A1, and it's track record isn't near as good as the #123-CK-NF78-A1. If you're going to take an EVGA, it might as well be a highly regarded one! They have had some chipset issues, video corruption, artifacting and recovering from standby (sleep) issues. You might want to check the EVGA website for more information about known issues, and make your decision from there!
I almost forgot, here's the Newegg reviews on it:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188024

BTW, just a thought! They are going to have to make good on this one way or the other so it's going to have to work before they can give it back to you. If they can't make it all work properly, they will have to give you your money back anyway!

Best Regards and good luck,
Russ

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What i found on my AMD boards with XP3 is if I nstalled the pre release final edition and then the final edition with the updates everything works well. On the last 2 builds I tried XP3 on the updates as recommended and had lots of problems. What I found was to install the pre finish version then installed updates and then installed the final version.The XP pro 64 bit with its own
updates is a cluster____!Any advise on this XP 64 would be greatly appreciated. Chris
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ZoSo,

I really don't want to give you any OC suggestions/advice until I've had a chance to get my feet wet with my Q9450. This is my 1st quad core. theoretically it should OC the same as a C2D but there are some differences. I want to get some experience under my belt before offering advice or help OC'ing it. I don't yet know what limitations there might be with the 8x multiplier and FSB. give me a few days. besides you're already smokin fast at stock speed :-D my RB/CCE times of my Q9450 (stock 2.66ghz) are mirroring the times of my E3110 (E8400) @ 4.0ghz. it's even faster with hc encoder by hanks, best quality setting by almost 10 minutes. suprised even me.

haskins69,

with that many mobo failures, even different models, I would seriously look into the possibility of an outside problem other than the mobo. I know the reputation of asus mobo's with nvidia chipsets is not outstanding but there are also quite a few cases of them being very good performers/OC'ers as well.

if I was in your situation, I would try to get into a mobo with an intel chipset (P35/45, X38/48) even if I had to front a little money. if that is not an alternatve under any circumstances, I would go with EVGA. I wouldn't let the asus supreme sound card influence me in any way. onboard audio has come a long way and is much better than it used to be and besides you can get into a creative SB audigy for a little over $30. now the X-Fi fatal1ty's do cost considerably more but can't be compared with the supreme audio. different ballpark.

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Other than the points I mentioned above they appear to be the same. They both use the same chipset and both have 8 Phase power supplies. I have the P5Q Deluxe and it's been great board thus far. It even surpassed by expectations which is rare.

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Mort: So far so good on my 2006 580W, but it doesn't get used that often. The fan bearing in the 2005 480W unit though is absolutely ruined, and that hadn't seen use for over a year.
Krj: Awesome link. The results don't surprise me in the slightest really, for a cheap 450W PSU, 335W is miles too much load, you generally need to divide by about six to find the safe load for a budget brand PSU.
Haskins: The problem is primarily with nvidia chipsets, not Asus (though you can't entirerly absolve them from blame) - getting an EVGA nvidia chipset board is not guaranteed to give you any better luck. Stick with an Intel chipset board like the Asus Rampage, Gigabyte X48-DS4 or one of DFI's X48 offerings.
Also, what PSU is your system running on? Has that ever been changed?



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The fan bearing in the 2005 480W unit though is absolutely ruined
Most power supply fans can be replaced with an inexpensive case fan of the same size and properties. To keep prices down parts manufacturers universalized many parts to be used for similar purpose in several areas.

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want to get some experience under my belt before offering advice or help OC'ing it.
Solid advice Mort, too bad others don't see it that way.

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Indeed, I know they can be replaced relatively easily, but I don't really use that PC any longer, and the fan does still work, so I'll probably pass on that repair.



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No, it will probably take up to $10 and technical skills that are equivalent to changing a light bulb to complete this daunting task.:P

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Anyway, moving back on topic, reading up on Nehalem has left me a bit confused with the different sockets. We've had celerons, P4s, Pentium Dual cores, Core 2 Duos, Core 2 Quads and both extreme and Xeon versions of some of these on LGA775 for all this time. Why now have we got LGA1160 and LGA1366? What's the significance of the two different structures?



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Why now have we got LGA1160 and LGA1366? What's the significance of the two different structures?
Nehalem's structure requires a greater Pin count (pinout) than does the the LGA775. Nehalem has a larger pin count. Most processors sockets were the actual number of Pinouts such as socket 478=478 Pinout, 939=939pinout. LGA775 is a little long in the tooth since it was originally engineered for the P4, and Nahelem probably can't function with so few pinouts.


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I understand why Nehalem requires a greater pin count, what I'm asking is why there are two different sockets for it in the mainstream market, and what the differences are.



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I understand why Nehalem requires a greater pin count, what I'm asking is why there are two different sockets
If you understand why it requires a greater pin count then you should understand why there will be two different sockets, different pincounts. Intel hasn't said much about Nehalem, but we do know that some if not all of the Nehalem's will have Hypertransport and hyperthreading (QPI)on top of being multi-cored. There is going to be an 8 core Nehalem, and Nehalem will be introducing 3 channel memory instead of two on all or perhaps just s. Although this isn't entirely clear it also explains why a new chipset is also needed. I can't say whether or not the numbers reflect the actual pinouts since socket "7" and socket "A" didn't, but there is a strong likely hood of that being true. Also it is not unusual for a processor manufacturer to introduce a socket difference for pro boards and consumer boards.


edited because I forgot a word "Hyperthreading" a comon error in my posts. LOL

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Perhaps I don't then. If the P4 with hyper-threading can share the same socket as a Core 2 Quad without it, then as far as I can see it, the number of cores at least, along with whether or not HT is included doesn't seem to make much difference to the socket required.

We already have the server grade socket and mobile socket listed as separate figures, leaving two in the mainstream. A little more research suggests that very little is known about 1366, so it may not even come to being. We shall see, I suppose.



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Perhaps I don't then. If the P4 with hyper-threading can share the same socket as a Core 2 Quad without it, then as far as I can see it, the number of cores at least, along with whether or not HT is included doesn't seem to make much difference to the socket required.
It would seem that socket 775 has limitations that are apparently inadequate for the new Nehalem design. Socket 775 uses on motherboard memory controllers and requires a front side bus. Intel with Nehalem has taken a lesson from AMD and decided to do away with the on motherboard memory controller and the FSB. No add three channel memory which is also a departure from socket 775 and the implications of increased pin count begins to make sense. A lot of what I'm saying is to a degree pieced out of bits of articles that I've stored on hounds along with a little educated speculation.


Core 2 duo and quads weren't really an evolution in processor design in that they were built out of older architectures such as the PIII and earlier designs for laptops (earlier Pentium M)but can't remember the core name at the moment. There were quick fixes to stop the corporate bleeding cause by AMD. Nehalem is a true processor evolution and socket 775 would have probably meant a limitation to the design.

I believe the forgotten core was the Yonah.

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Originally posted by Sophocles:
bigwill68

Other than the points I mentioned above they appear to be the same. They both use the same chipset and both have 8 Phase power supplies. I have the P5Q Deluxe and it's been great board thus far. It even surpassed by expectations which is rare.
@sophocles
thanks well the P5QC will be my choice,cause i like the option of using ddr3 down the line , plus cost of ddr 3 is goin down..

Originally posted by Sophocles:


Most power supply fans can be replaced with an inexpensive case fan of the same size and properties. To keep prices down parts manufacturers universalized many parts to be used for similar purpose in several areas.
That is very much true..so people don't even know that they see it as it comes how it is likea used car..me i like to modify changes things around see how they work better yet takes them apart..I have a Cooler Master eXtreme RP-500-PCAR 500W PSU powering my system now..that Santa Gave me..lol..let me tell you the box lied (super silent) no way that fan sounded like a lawn mower running without cutting grass..I brought that to my co-worker CincyRob attention and show him that you can change the fan out..and we did with new cooler master 120mm Blue Led..fan cost only $5.00... only modify ..i had to do was splice the red & yellow wire together to get the led's to work..cause the mobo on the psu has 2 pin connection where fan has 3 pin..it's went from bein real loud with the factory down to bein nice and silent you can't hear it but you see the light..lol..:)

now question is there a difference in what type plastics used to make fans..i believe the bearings matter also and blade count cause they all cut the air different because of the sounds they make of bein loud or silent aka dba/cfm..I believe you change any PSU Fan out if the fan is to noise for you..

Now on the Intel Nehalem issue..they say some chips will be banned from over clocking..this what..i read..i don't know if it's true or not but there's goin to be 3 chips made and two of them you can't Oc..here it is We get to know that Intel will change overclock policy when LGA1366 and LGA1160 to replace LGA775 and then Intel just allow high-end quad core Bloomfield to overclock.


Nehalem products include high-end Bloomfield (core quad, LGA1366), mid-end Lynnfield (core quad, LGA1160) and low-end Havendale (core 2 duo, LGA1160).


It is said that Intel wont limit Bloomfield to overclock but Lynnfieed and Havendale will be banned.


Nehalem family will be integrated most functions of current Northbridge chipset and Intel maybe to change something such as BIOS visit, FSB control, etc.


We dont know why Intel did this and we also wonder if Intel will change their mind. It is possible that overclock will be only belonging to high-end gamers while the mid-end and low-end users just can ran at the default clocks.

so Oc'ing will be limited?

Done out of Here!

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