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18. July 2008 @ 19:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sophocles,
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Everest doesn't have support for the P45 chipset yet.

Your version of Everest is older. Mine is v4.50.1330. The v4.20.1255 Beta (which I also have) didn't show the P35 chipset either.

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I've already checked, they still don't have support for it.




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heres a shot of my NB in everest.

but i have a different question.

look at the mem is says it can handle.DDR3. does that mean i can run DDR3 on this board???



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cincyrob,
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look at the mem is says it can handle.DDR3. does that mean i can run DDR3 on this board???

No! That just means that the chipset supports it as in the GA-P35C-DS3R. It has 4 DDR2 and 2 DDR3 slots!

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Hi Mort,
It arrived...:)
Just waiting on the O/S...Going with a Dual Boot...XP-32 & Vista 64 Home Premium...
Once the Vista OS arrives...
My little road warrior will be...Alive...}:)


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Originally posted by Lp531:
Hi Mort,
It arrived...:)
Just waiting on the O/S...Going with a Dual Boot...XP-32 & Vista 64 Home Premium...
Once the Vista OS arrives...
My little road warrior will be...Alive...}:)
Hi Lp,

that is great news. I kinda miss my little buddy but I'm sure it is in good hands. I might have a go at a mediocre OC on my Q9450 tomorrow.

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I was reading the posts you guys wrote a few pages back....Sophocles: PLEASE tell me how you keep your CPU temps that cool!!

Can someone help or explain this to me?...abuzar was puzzled as well: My q9450 core temperatures are just stupid:




One core is almost 10C hotter than the other...I even brought the speed back down to stock, and still the same, except everything is 2C cooler.

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I swear that's one of the weirded things I have seen.

Did you try installing the stock cooler? Your temps would generally go up, but then you can see if you still get the core temp differences. Then you know whether or not it's due to contact issues.
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Originally posted by mrk44:

Can someone help or explain this to me?...abuzar was puzzled as well: My q9450 core temperatures are just stupid:




One core is almost 10C hotter than the other...I even brought the speed back down to stock, and still the same, except everything is 2C cooler.
I see a 21C difference.. That is a bit disturbing.... The only things that I can think of are your coverage of TP and the possibility of an improperly installed cpu heatsink... ;)

So did you get a nice thin application of TP?

Also make very POSITIVE you have the cooler installed correctly and and the fan is turning at the proper rpm.;)

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Well, I used a bolt-thru kit to install my Xigmatek, and I screwed all the things in as far as they would go. My only explanation is that I screwed one is crooked or lopsided or something so one corner of the base is not in direct contact (which is probably the corner that core 0 is on)...

EDIT: My application of TP is pretty thin, but it doesn't exactly cover the entire base, just a small part around the middle... What do you guys use to spread it around? because that was my problem when I was putting it on.

I'll try to reinstall my stock fan to check temps, but it's just that it's a B**CH to get that thing on with the push pins.

greensman, you're scaring me with that "disturbing" stuff there. Getting me worried lol. If I can't get it to work, then I'll have to choice but to take it in to a professional repair shop to check it out.

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Originally posted by mrk44:
greensman, you're scaring me with that "disturbing" stuff there. Getting me worried lol. If I can't get it to work, then I'll have to choice but to take it in to a professional repair shop to check it out.
NO worries as of yet. lol.

I think you can do this yourself, easily I may add. ;) I know it's a PITA, but remove your heatsink, clean all the OLD goody off of both surfaces and let's start over. ;)

A plastic card works well for your 'spreading' device... Some don't spread the PASTE but I prefer to so I know how much is there and where it's going. lol. A rice sized (maybe a bit larger) application to the middle of the cpu heatsink should be spread out until it's about 1/16"-1/8" from the edge of the cpu heatsink. I also apply a very thin app to the middle of the cpu cooler about the size of a nickel for my piece of mind but it's not necessary. ;)

Once that is done 'set' the cpu cooler on the cpu (gently of course) and begin 'tightening' the bolts on the cooler. I would try to get them (the bolts) snug but NOT tight. (do they have springs with them?) I'm sorry I don't know what the 'bolts' look like with the Xigmatek cooler. (nvm just looked them up..) When you bolt them 'up' be sure to go across the "X" and not the bolt next to the one you just tightened. That way you should avoid a "tilted" cooler. ;) I also don't think there is any reason to 'tighten' them all the way up.... jm2c on it.... :D

hth...

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Wait, you didn't spread the TP? Huh.

Most heatsinks have a flat base so the base spreads it on the CPU. What I did was apply small amounts of TP to the heatpipes themselves, because the Xigmatek WONT spread it on the CPU like other heatsinks.
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Wait, you didn't spread the TP? Huh.
lol. I spread it...but I'm pretty sure I did a mediocre job at it. I used the tip of the AS5 seringe thing. And I used a SUPER tiny amount, which would explain why it didn't spread around too much...I got a lot to learn about this stuff...

greensman: Would an old credit card or something like that work for the "spreading device?" I assume that's what you mean by a "plastic card".

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lol

Just put some on each heatpipe and pressure should do the rest.
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@mrk44

and if you use (too much) the heat won't escape right either..


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i got the kazemaster scythe hooked up boys and it looking sweet to i like it, got the 2 side 120mm's and 2 top 120mm's hooked up to it & sensor 1 cpu sensor 2 video card,sensor 3 psu housing and last but not lease sensor 4 master hard drive..here's a pic..




only 3 fans hooked on the motherboard front,back and heatsink..

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remote start is next..i gotta finishes dressing this RC-590 out with parts b4 winter hits cause there will be a new car in the garage in 09 Water Cooled..

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HOLY CRAP, I could never justify spending that much just on a fan controller...
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Originally posted by mrk44:
One core is almost 10C hotter than the other...I even brought the speed back down to stock, and still the same, except everything is 2C cooler.

I see the same with my Q9450, core 1 is 10°C hotter than rest. I thought it was cause of extra instructions it gives the rest of the chip but 10° is still significant. I may have overspread my AS paste over the entire chip also, but I did use the credit card method and was thin over the entire surface. If I ignores core 1 temps, I would try to OC my rig more cause cores 2-4 look great still (sorry I'm not running a full test for proof at 3AM my time...)

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mrk44,

here are the AS5 application directions for an intel quad core cpu. I don't know if they will work for your cpu cooler however due to the heatpipes on the bottom of the base. if the base is smooth and flat, I would follow the AS5 directions. did you get any instructions with the cooler regarding application of thermal compound?

I wouldn't mess with the oem hsf. it is the biggest piece of garbage I have ever seen. only about 1/2" thick and all aluminum except a small copper ring on the base. I was very disapointed with intels idea of a hsf. AS5 aplication instructions for intel quad core cpu's:




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Mort, that wont work. The Xigmatek is a a exposed pipe design. So he cant just put the heatsink on the paste, because there is no heatsink base to spread it around.
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Mort, that wont work. The Xigmatek is a a exposed pipe design. So he cant just put the heatsink on the paste, because there is no heatsink base to spread it around.
I understand that but since that's the case Xigmatec needs to send thermal paste application instructions. I would also use their thermal compound if any comes with it.

for all other non exposed heatpipe heatsinks, the instructions above should be followed. do NOT spread.

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It comes with it lol.
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Great pics and info Mort! Since I already know I spread more AS around than that picture/guide shows, anyone think the 10°C discrepancy between cores 1-4 maybe an effect?

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mort: I read those instructions and thought the same thing that abuzar said, because the heatpipes don't line up to where the instructions say to apply the as5. I try to reinstall it AGAIN (3rd or 4th time, I've lost count)...with the thermal compound the hsf came with. It's a powder so....

deadrum: What are your temps for core 2-4. I would like to know to compare to see if I'm having the same problem.

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Originally posted by abuzar1:
HOLY CRAP, I could never justify spending that much just on a fan controller...
some people got money and some don't..was that neg comment or positive 1 abuzar? we only live once here on this earth if you got it flunt it..and look at fans speeds and temps..

on the heatsink issue:



are the cores divided by the slit in this heatsink base if so that would be 3 pipes per side like a V8 engine..lol sorry..i had to add that..

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