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Best factory built computers
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Praetor
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15. August 2004 @ 21:28 |
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Ok to answer the original thread title in one word: Voodoo.
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Prisoner
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16. August 2004 @ 16:00 |
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I would only recomend Dell based on service. So if your here you really don't need Dell's service. So I think generally there systems suck.
I would say Toshiba is the best. Yes you limited mainly to notebooks, but they are more powerfull then most desktops and the LCD screens are amazing. And if you are so include you can take it apart and move the components to a tower.
I agree that HP systems suck, also Compaq now. When Compaq was Compaq they were really good. but not that they HP they seem to suck.
Preator, you can upgrade a Mac. Its harder but do able. Hard drives are easy (almost any Maxtor will work), memory not as easy and cards can be chalenging.
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Praetor
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17. August 2004 @ 03:37 |
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Preator, you can upgrade a Mac. Its harder but do able. Hard drives are easy (almost any Maxtor will work), memory not as easy and cards can be chalenging.
Yes i know *that* but i meant SERIOUS upgrades like mobo and CPU ... to my understading that's not doable correct? :)
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JSRife
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17. August 2004 @ 05:19 |
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Prisoner.... So in otherwards you are saying Factory built computers suck in general, but Toshiba notebooks being the exception and they are the best. You must be looking at higher end notebooks from Toshiba. I never seen a real high level toshiba notebook, they make alot of budget machines starting from $799. Went to Toshibas website the Satellite line start from $799 up to $1549 and PC 2700 memory is all they come with. From what I can see all Toshiba notebooks currently come with PC 2700 memory, not impressed. I don't think the LCD screens on Toshiba are any better than any other notebook. Notebooks are great if you need your computer to go with you all the time, but if you want real power go with a desktop, The most powerful computer is a desktop not a notebook. I'm not talking about servers either, just flat out home computers that you can buy at Best-buy, Circuit city and so on. To me any computer is good if it has good parts inside of it's box and if you can get a good deal on it, then that is even sweeter. If they currently make a notebook with PC2 4200 memory and a hard drive over 300GB let me know.
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17. August 2004 @ 07:54 |
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Preator, You can change the Mother board but you are limited and you can change the CPU but again limited. So its still doable, but the limitations do make it pointless. As its cheaper to just buy a whole new line Mac than upgrade an old one. Unless you get all the part for free from a University thats throwing them out :)
JSRife, Yes generally for power and speed factory built anything sucks. Look a racing as an example. You can buy a factor built bike, motorcycle, car or computer and you should not expect it to have lots of power or speed. thats why you need to customize it to your own needs. The advantage of factory built stuff is you know it works, that evey component has been tested and will work with every other component. This not true for custom, you have to be careful with powersupplies, fans and memory.
But as it goes Toshiba`s rock. They are cheap, they are at 3.4Ghz and the LCD screens are better than ones you can buy for desktops. Also they are portable, and if you want to upgrade hardives and memory, you can. You just need to know a little electronics to make it work. Also you can get some good Moble processors if you like to overclock. So you could do as I sugested, buy a notebook, but it into a tower, overclock it and upgrade the Hard disk and Drives.
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JSRife
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25. August 2004 @ 04:51 |
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I know I'm kinda swinging from HP's Nads based on a great experience I have had so far with this HP I'm using going by (Quality and value), but in all honesty, I don't really know what kind of Computer I will be buying when I get one for my Upgrade to this current PC. I would have no problem owning a new Dell Desktop, I hear good things about them and they look nice also. If Dell can get me a deal where I pay a little more, about the same or cheaper than an HP PC of the same Calibur, as far as memory, HD, Processor and everything else goes, I will be buying a Dell for sure. Somehow I don't think it is going to happen though, I will be paying at least a few hundred more dollars for the Dell machine even know it's no higher of calibur computer than the HP for less dough. I always hear this and that, it's the big Chevy vs Ford debate. I hear this alot " Dell XPS is smoking anything HP has as far as desktop computers go" I feel that to be wrong though. If we are comparing Dells biggest badest machine to just a regular HP entry level Computer , then I would agree Dell gots it. Now if we are comparing the XPS to HP's best machine you have 2 very good computers operating on the same calibur or level whatever you wanna call it, with the same processor, Same 300+ Hard-drives and with excellent 3200 and 4200 memory. I don't really think either is really that much worse or better than the other. I go by what is inside the box, both make crap budget machines and both make high end machines, I think anyone in buisness producing Computers make low end and high end stuff. Both Dell and HP make products for people just wanting a computer that is good enough, and other machines to make you go WOW.... I try to get the most I can for my hard earned money, and want what's good inside the box, I could care less about the actual name brand on the machine. I just prefer HP over others because they offer the same quality machines as other companies do, but you save a few hundred bucks in the process of it all. Also read HP doesn't make as much profit off a Single computer they build as Dell does. HMMM maybe this is why I am saving money going with HP. It all comes clear to me now.
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25. August 2004 @ 16:47 |
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JSRife,
Why don't you build one? Thats what I plan to do when I'm ready to upgrade my pc.
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JSRife
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25. August 2004 @ 17:39 |
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Hey I don't mean to rub People the wrong way in here.. I'm not trying to be a know it all between the HP and Dell Debate, I'm just going by what I know or I think I know, my knowledge between these 2 subjects may not be as good as someone elses. I'm not getting really nitty gritty and in detail about these 2 products mother boards and the deeper things to know inside the computer, because I know Jack about Mother boards actually. I just use the simple, if it supports higher grade memory like 3200 and , then to me it is good and even more so if it supports the higher processors like the high end P4 and AMD 64 line, but alot of Mobo's support both p4 and amd64, and you can either buy cheaper Mother boards that support these or expensive ones, like the ASUS or whatever. I just wanted to clear that up. I get a little carried away with my Computer stuff, lol.....As far as building my own computer, I will someday down the road when I learn more about them.
Jason Rife
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forkndave
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25. August 2004 @ 21:03 |
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I don't believe you'll find a motherboard that supports P4 and Athlon 64. In addition to many other things, they use a different socket. Back in the old 486 days motherboards would take Intel, AMD or Cyrix processors. That was a long time ago, though. Now, you have to choose one or the other.
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