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23. January 2007 @ 10:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
no i know what it means im not a idiot. i just think if you have to put other firmware to it, it must not be that good in the first place?????? just my way of looking at it...i know other who have donme this to make there drives better taking a lower grade drive and hacking it with benq firmware....ect....

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see what i mean greensman thats what i was talking about docty took something and made it into the benq, useing that hacked firmware.

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23. January 2007 @ 10:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No one called you an idiot, did they. Lol

And you're right, it does seem that way. However, these drives are built with the potential to do much more than their manufacturers allow. The patched firmware merely opens up the drives full potential...




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Hey got a question? I seen on this thread that a few have up to four dvd drives, well i bought two LITEON LH-18A1P's and i also have two nec's hooked up for a total of four drive. well my problem is i cant get the liteons to booktype, like everytime i try under Nero or liteon's booktype utility it says changed but when i burn a disk its just a reg. DVD+R. no dvd-rom? i have the two liteons installed under cable select under the jumpers, should i change them to slave or maybe one master one slave?? or maybe its something else entirely?? any help would be appriciated. /unjust



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23. January 2007 @ 15:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@greensman

Thanks for the links but seeing as i couldn't decide i just went ahead and ordered both. lol.

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23. January 2007 @ 15:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LOL @ biggun31,
That's what my buddy did for his AMD build.

@Unjust2u,
I'm the nut with 4 optical drives. lol. I have my LITEON LH-18A1P set as MASTER and the LITEON SHW-160P6S set as SLAVE. The other two: BENQ DW-1655 set as MASTER and the BENQ DW-1650 set as SLAVE. I normally use IMGBURN to write and it has a utility that book types these 2 drive makers. Don't know if this helped but there you have it. lol.

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Nero should bit-set those drives but I really don't know Nero that well, you might do a search in the Nero forums. Sorry couldn't help out there.

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Yep Nero should automatically booktype those LiteOn's. I know w/ the older ones it didn't and I had to set it every time.

If you have a Dell pc they prefer cable select - if you don't then like greensman said :)




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23. January 2007 @ 22:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello All, well cable select was the way for me on the liteon's . Here's a post of my first burn with one of the drives. Looks real steady/smooth. now to see how it plays...thats what counts!








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24. January 2007 @ 01:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I did two at the same time in Nero. These were burned at 8x simultaneously ....











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24. January 2007 @ 03:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Unjust2u,
How do they play in the dvd player?

Man those look dang nice. I think that's a new low for PI Errors (56). Good job ol' chap. lol. Verb MCC 004 no less. :) Shoot and the LH-18A1P has new firmware got to download that right away. :) :)

...........c

edit: Unjust2u, where did you get the firmware GL0F? I have GL03 and did a quick search and found nothing. Will try later when I don't have so many distractions. lol.

edit#2: LOL. I found the GL0F firmware but didn't find the stock GL03 anywhere. That seems strange to me. Anyone got any ideas?

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24. January 2007 @ 08:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello Greensman :) Here's where i downloaded my Firmware. Enjoy ...

http://codeguys.rpc1.org/firmwares.html

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24. January 2007 @ 21:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here's a post of my second try at burning both my new Liteon's at the same time with Nero......both seem to play just fine.










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Ujust2u,
You gotta quit posting them great scans. You is embarrassin us. LOL. Man those are great. A 98 (scan) on a LITEON is tremendous. I know when cincyrob sees that, he won't care how much that thing costs or if the shipping is free. Know your reading this rob, hehe. I just flashed my LH-18A1P and will post some scans tomorrow. I gotta get some sleep. *yawn*.

Nicely done again Ujust2u. :)

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25. January 2007 @ 02:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is it ok to come out??

HOLY SHIP'S that is freakin unreal.... you sure thats not a pressed disc? that blows my mind away. let alone a 98 on th elitey but a low of 43 PIF's thats just to sweet.... and the one before that might only be a 90 just because of the spike up to 4, but over all only 85 total PIF's thats just mind boggleing. you cant get any better than that right there, plus a multisession burn.

i thought the 56 low pif would be hard to beat but yet you toss out a 43 keepem coming.. please say they play great. i'd hate to see a scan that awsome and the disc not play...lol stranger things have happened..

great job Unjust2u
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25. January 2007 @ 03:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well heres my latest multisession burn... no where near as good as Unjust2u's scans....
on this burn my HP put out the better scores...






this is a odd burn.. look at the HP drive has the higer number of PIE's but low PIF's and the liteon has a very low number of PIE's and a higher amount of PIF's very interesting... i havent watched either disc yet, but have put them in the dvd player and searched through them and they look great both of them
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25. January 2007 @ 04:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
cincyrob,
Nice to see that you didn't stay away to long. hehe. Those are pretty good scans but Unjust2u (us really...lol) has us reeling and feeling unwanted. :)

I think the low PIF's on the HP is good but that odd pattern on the PIE's is strange. LOOK at the consistancy of the LITEON (yours not Unjust2u) with the PIE's. Good in my book that is.

Gotta drop off the kiddies and act like work means something. laterz......

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25. January 2007 @ 04:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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yea i noticed the high part on the PIEs on the HP. thats what has me confused. normally i get that when i adjust the compression for more on the menu and extras and less on the movie.. i get that pattern all the time when i do it like that. but there are no extras or menu on this movie. has me baffled...

43
thats how im gonna start every post from now on..

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25. January 2007 @ 08:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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hey guys and gals. take a look at this site i found pretty sweet place.deals with these Nero scans breaks down alot of stuff we have talked about on here...this link is to a guide to do scans but it has info on what our numbers should be and other cool stuff...pretty sweet site.

http://www.bitburners.com/Guides/DVD-R_a...de_For_Newbies/

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Thanks rob ol' buddy. I posted that link in the "nice media thread" for the other guys. That's not the same one I had before but it says the same stuff. lol. Man I lost a bunch of links when I built my new computer last year. My bad. LOL.

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Man I have to do some scans tonight with that new firmware. Oh! btw thanks for the heads up on the new version of RI4M. updated and ready for anything.....

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25. January 2007 @ 20:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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well if this is the big stinker of the year im not impressed..just did saw3 with AnyDVD and clonedvd2 no problem 23:18 havent watched it yet but heres the scan
its not a 43 but a good scan. little high on the pif total.
gonna do it a couple more times, different ways



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26. January 2007 @ 06:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well got a few scans here. i did a mutlisession burn of saw3... the scan above here i did with AnyDVD and clondvd2 movie and menu only as you can see i got 95 on but the darn disc won play at all???? see these scans dont mean squat..lol

so i used ripit4me. ran it through dvdshrink (had to do it that way cause is was like 5gb and couldnt use Nero multiesession with that big of a file on a single layer disc DUH..lol)
it did take about 45 mins to run through dvdshrink??? but i now have 2 working copies movie and menu. once again my hp got a better score than my liteon(scratches my head hmmmm?)
i have played them both used scene selection fastforward everything works great.

yea im done rambleing heres the scans..lol
this one was done on the liteon.



this one with the HP740i


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hey cincyrob,
It was easy with Any and Clone but didn't play for sh!t. lol.

Those scans with the next 2 look ok but your pif's seem high. You said they play fine tho. Which drive are you ripping in with? I would be curious to know for the same reason I've tried all 4 of mine. Mine do about the same but your HP may not rip a good image and vice versa. I can't see that making a difference but really curious to find out. :)

Gonna PM you later, at work right now. lol.

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26. January 2007 @ 07:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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@greensman.

i use my HP to rip with. i used ripit4me used that file and ran it through shrink then used Nero to multie burn with.. this is the second time the hp scan has come out like that... like i said earlier it does that when i use more compression on the menu and extras but these last 2 times i didnt do that kept it even across the board,.. the liteon's pif TOTAL is kinda high but the max is ok(i prefer a 2 there but ok) and the HP's totalis under 900 thats pretty good and a max of 2 thats the lowest i have ever gotten so am happy with it.. just seems odd the way it is doing it on the multiesession right now

im doing texas chainsaw massacre the beginning right now.. so far the scan looks awsome.
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26. January 2007 @ 07:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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here is texas chainsaw the beginning
looked awsome up till the end and got that spike to 4 on the pif's still overall a good burn...

i just took the disc out of the drive and had one of my fingerprints on the edge gonna rescan it


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Here's 2 scans - both 95 - one on Memorex (Ricoh) and TY







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