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25. December 2011 @ 01:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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My 560 runs everything with maxed out settings at 1080P flawlessly,
Haha yes and no. I run at 1920 x 1200 and 1080p and even with Crossfire working excellently, many games are far from flawless. But bah don't mind me just being nitpicky :P



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Once again, I can't see the last page.

And now I can :D

Jeff, are you a videophile :p



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Weee got BF3 for Christmas! Now to start my next multi-hundred hour addiction. Just broke 400 hours on Bad Company 2. Will probably be putting it to rest in the near future.



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They're already trying to phase out DVI aren't they? I see monitors on newegg that don't have them. Oddly, they have D-sub/vga though. Rather strange. In any case, Display port and HDMI are my main concerns any more. I'm very interested in eyefinity now. I'll probably buy 2 more (Cheap) monitors in the not too distant future. I like the videos of eyefinity in action ;) Probably get an HDTV too. You can probably imagine what I'd use that badboy for. Although a Projector is something I've always wanted as well!



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25. December 2011 @ 03:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by KillerBug:
$570-$600? Unless you are gaming in 3D, I just don't see the point. My 560 runs everything with maxed out settings at 1080P flawlessly, plus it has CUDA cores for desktop apps.
Well, no it doesn't. It just runs everything that you play maxed out, and that's fine for your purposes, so for you, there would be no point in upgrading. For people who play more demanding games though, there are plenty of reasons to own more powerful cards like this. In addition, it's not just nvidia GPUs that can accelerate desktop applications, both brands can do it.

Originally posted by omegaman7:
They're already trying to phase out DVI aren't they? I see monitors on newegg that don't have them. Oddly, they have D-sub/vga though. Rather strange. In any case, Display port and HDMI are my main concerns any more. I'm very interested in eyefinity now. I'll probably buy 2 more (Cheap) monitors in the not too distant future. I like the videos of eyefinity in action ;) Probably get an HDTV too. You can probably imagine what I'd use that badboy for. Although a Projector is something I've always wanted as well!
They're not phasing out DVI. The reason you don't see it is normally with cheap displays - companies are still using VGA on the cheapest displays because seemingly it costs less. The only occasions you wouldn't see it on higher-end displays are when they have TV-style functionality and use HDMI along with some other standard def connectors. DVI's not going anywhere yet, because HDMI was not intended to replace it, and Displayport, which was, has done a very bad job so far, as it's an unreliable technology. (Nvidia haven't even adopted it yet!). DVI's days will begin to become numbered once 3840x2160 displays start showing up, as they will require HDMI/Displayport to function.



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Accidental double post. My bad.

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Originally posted by sammorris:

They're not phasing out DVI. The reason you don't see it is normally with cheap displays - companies are still using VGA on the cheapest displays because seemingly it costs less. The only occasions you wouldn't see it on higher-end displays are when they have TV-style functionality and use HDMI along with some other standard def connectors. DVI's not going anywhere yet, because HDMI was not intended to replace it, and Displayport, which was, has done a very bad job so far, as it's an unreliable technology. (Nvidia haven't even adopted it yet!). DVI's days will begin to become numbered once 3840x2160 displays start showing up, as they will require HDMI/Displayport to function.
Ahh, ok. I understand. Thanks ;)

Eesh, february feels so far away :(



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kInda rewarding to know my 2407WFP is essentially still at the head of the tech curve. Features-wise, it's still more than a match for any comparable new product.



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Ditto! I'm still a bit upset about my faulty SD reader, but what are you gonna do...
There's no way i'm sending it to dell for replacement. My luck the replacement would have something else wrong. E.g. Dead/stuck/hot pixels.

I definitely love my U2410. I've been doing a lot of christmas projects with Photoshop. WAYYY better than that old Sammy I had!



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hi i am new in this forum..
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Originally posted by annagrenier99:
hi i am new in this forum..
LOL! Is that right...



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26. December 2011 @ 17:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Estuansis:
kInda rewarding to know my 2407WFP is essentially still at the head of the tech curve. Features-wise, it's still more than a match for any comparable new product.
I'd say the 2408 is, with Displayport, as that does make eyefinity possible, versus very difficult otherwise. Apart from that though, the Ultrasharps are still 'it', even the 5+ year old ones. It kind of sickens me to think that my 3 year old 3008WFP which wasn't really new when it was purchased, is still the most technologically advanced monitor out there...



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I find that rather humorous. Disappointing as well. I'd like new technology to be released, and compete with the Dell Behemoth!



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I find it satisfying as my rather expensive monitor is the only piece of the puzzle my other components have to work to match. Adding the 23.6" 1080p ASUS screen to replace the 22" Acer was icing on the cake. I can now play in 1920 x 1200, or 1920 x 1080, and the oldest LCD I own is by far the best. Am strongly considering LED though. Most of the new flat panel tech makes me yawn. Plasma, 120Hz, etc, etc, boring. LED actually got me excited. The single greatest leap in quality since we went to flat panels. Really negates the CRT vs Flat Panel colors argument. Really really beautiful. Might replace my secondary yet again with a larger LED for movies.

I also decided not to make my planned jump to Sandy Bridge. Especially after some play with Skyrim and BF3 with Crossfire working properly, I don't see a need. Until I upgrade my video cards, my system has remained at a very happy zenith. It doesn't matter if my CPU is bottlenecking these cards if my games still average in the 60s maxed with AA... I daresay the "too little, too late" Phenom II has truly shown its colors. I might be arsed to hop to a 1090T if only for the OCing and extra 2 cores. Should keep me happy. Would definitely reduce the bottleneck to almost nothing.



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I feel about how you do Jeff. I've strongly considered Bulldozer as well as the new platform/motherboard, but I just don't see the need at this time. I'm still considering 1090t, and may just jump on it in february. But even then, my performance gains would not be incredible. I would likely see performance gains in X264, and multitasking, but with other applications, I may even see a slight drop in performance. The difference is probably not easily noticed though. Since I run my long encode jobs at night(while sleeping), I'm not sure if a 6 - 8core is even needed. I however would love to run encodes during the day, while shutting off 2 cores. I generally don't run intensive jobs during the day, because I need my CPU strength for other programs ;) With 1090t, I may just get what I want. I'm hoping the price drops at least a little in february. Maybe even the 3Tb drives. I see they're down a little. They don't cost a whole lot more than I spent on my first one. Of course it's wise for me to get a board with UEFI first.



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29. December 2011 @ 13:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by omegaman7:
I feel about how you do Jeff. I've strongly considered Bulldozer as well as the new platform/motherboard, but I just don't see the need at this time. I'm still considering 1090t, and may just jump on it in february. But even then, my performance gains would not be incredible. I would likely see performance gains in X264, and multitasking, but with other applications, I may even see a slight drop in performance. The difference is probably not easily noticed though. Since I run my long encode jobs at night(while sleeping), I'm not sure if a 6 - 8core is even needed. I however would love to run encodes during the day, while shutting off 2 cores. I generally don't run intensive jobs during the day, because I need my CPU strength for other programs ;) With 1090t, I may just get what I want. I'm hoping the price drops at least a little in february. Maybe even the 3Tb drives. I see they're down a little. They don't cost a whole lot more than I spent on my first one. Of course it's wise for me to get a board with UEFI first.
i would wait until we get a really fast(Stock) Quad Core its only a matter of time. the only thing more core's will do at the moment is increase multitasking capability.

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I multitask like mad. That's why I see benefits to 6 and 8 cores during the day. You are correct though. I probably should wait for a really beneficial CPU. We'll see if I can talk myself out of it LOL!
If 1090t can be had for say, ~149.99USD, I may just get it. But another CPU release would probably have to drive the cost down ;)



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We've got one, the i5 2500k :P
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Originally posted by sammorris:
We've got one, the i5 2500k :P
LOL, I see the benefits, I do. But I would also have to buy a new board to accommodate that CPU. Even more money.



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29. December 2011 @ 16:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Almost still want a 2500k but a 1090T would shut me up lol.



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There's a deal going on for 1055. I'm tempted, since I have the funds. But I'd rather wait for the black edition 1090t ;)



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Well, with the failure of bulldozer, you're not going to see a fast quad core cpu on the 2006 AMD platform. That is now solely Intel's domain for the forseeable. More cores, yes by all means carry on, but you're making sacrifices for some very old hardware, and there comes a point now where you should consider how beneficial it is to stick with the AM platform in favour of much more modern alternatives. If there had ever been a hex core on LGA775, thats essentially the same. Nobody's really consideree buying 775 CPUs for years, yet without bulldozer, upgrading within AMD's confines is the exact same.

X6s may be cheap, but theyre cheap for a reason. Those who want big multitasking should look long and hard at stuff like LGA2011, and those who want raw speed should already know about the performance of the 2500k/2600k, sufficiently fast that they outpace the X6s in multithreaded apps with just four cores, then pay themselves off in energy savings for 24/7 users. Wants vs. needs. If an X4 is fine for you like it is for most, stick with it. But a lot of people risk short-changing themselves with pretty minor upgrades getting the last out of AM, when if they really did need extra grunt, they should have looked elsewhere. For gamers the X6 is no better than the X4, and the latter's days are numbered for high-end gaming.

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It'd be my luck, I switch to intel's offerings, and then AMD releases something that smacks intel down like a child. Which is part of why I won't be doing any huge upgrades for a while. I just don't see a huge enough increase from EITHER AMD or intel. I suppose Intel is close to what I'd like to see, but as I said, my luck has a way of hexxing things 0_o
I see an upgrade option in 1090t, because I already have a board that supports it. I'm not expecting huge gains(in fact nearly nothing at all), just more core support. I would really like to see the performance for myself :p Not suggesting that countless reviews are wrong however...

I probably wouldn't even overclock it much at all. For fear of melting my board LOL!!!



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Ouch! I guess I knew it could/would be that price, but seeing is believing.
Not sure if I'm willing to spend that much on a GPU. That's more than twice what I spent on my GTX 260(when it was an agreeable card).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102961



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The GTX260, however, was never top of the line. The GTX285 (which at the time, was), fetched a similar price. The HD7970 is only priced how it is due to the excessive cost of its main rival, the GTX580. If the GTX580 were more affordable, so too would be the HD7970.
In all honesty though, the HD7970 is a living highlight of the future of the graphics industry - mass hardware stagnation. It has already set in to an extent with the CPU market, and it is now taking hold of the graphics market. Future performance gains are now almost exclusively coming from instruction enhancements, better drivers and better software. Mass hardware performance increases are now pretty much a thing of the past. Moore's law as we know it, is over.



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