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3. October 2009 @ 14:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Do you think that if both were at the same clocked speed, they would perform about the same. One things for sure, I've never been able to OC this one more than 3.6! I've read that the 965 will do 3.7 without a volatage nudge. Thats pretty impressive! And it'll do 4.0 on air supposedly.



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It won't be faster per clock, but it will indeed OC better. 4GHz is still a stretch though.



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Ok. Even if it could hit 4.0, I just don't think its worth it to me. It'd probably only gain me a few minutes in dvd rebuilder :P

Thanks Buddy. I wasn't into a bios flash anyway LOL!



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3. October 2009 @ 14:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by omegaman7:
Ha ha! Guess what. My mother gave me an 800$ figure, said "Go for it" and i'm already hard at work looking into what I want to build for her. She's a pretty easy person I'd imagine. Lets put it this way. She's currently running a pentium 4 2.0Ghz Gateway rig, not sure on the motherboard(Intel I think), an 80Gb WD 8Mb cache HDD. So...what ever I build here thats at least somewhat modern is gonna blow her mind LOL! I'd like to try and keep that closer to 600 though, because she'd like a new monitor as well. Im thinking a 20" 1680 Res monitor will do her nicely.
She wants to keep the old rig intact for someone else, so I have to rebuild from scratch. Tower, Monitor, etc. I'll post again in the morning, with my entire thoughts on the build. After i've had my coffee that is :P
This is the board im thinking of currently. Until tonight, i'd never heard of these north and southbridges LOL!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...3128397


Same MB I picked out for a 600$ build last night XD

Curios to know how well the ATI Radeon HD 4200 works, baring games can it handle everything else such as HD video play back? Also do you guys think a dedicated gpu would be worth it to take the load off the main system? Trying to keep the cost as low as possible but I'm not sure of cutting out the gpu in favor of an integrated one.


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The onboard video in my Dell Optiplex 745's can play most video content, the 'highest' i've played are 720p BR Rips (hence why one of the Optiplex's is now my HTPC), they play smoothly. Saying that my Acer netbook can do 480p videos too..



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Doesn't sound too promising....but if it doesn't work out they can always go out a get a gpu.


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Im currently looking at towers, and am rather disappointed with what im seeing. Half of them don't have cpu ventilation. NOT good. Thats a deal breaker for me. Newegg really needs that filter in search results! I think my MSI barebone tower, really benefits from that particular air duct. Im now looking at some Cooler Masters however that look promising :)



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A 965BE? You know you can't overclock them right? The 965BE is likely to go from 3.4 to 3.7, the 940 will go from 3.0 to 3.8-3.9, so your call :P



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Omega, I just built a machine for a client with that boards DDR2 twin.
No issues at all, except it cold-started so fast that even with HDD as first 2nd and 3rd boot option it couldnt find the slow to spinup 5yr old 80GB maxtor. after the error "not finding boot device", a quick restart and everything ran fine. I told them they needed a new HDD too but they wanted to keep all usable hardware from their dell while updating the essentials.

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Originally posted by sammorris:
A 965BE? You know you can't overclock them right? The 965BE is likely to go from 3.4 to 3.7, the 940 will go from 3.0 to 3.8-3.9, so your call :P

Sam, why do you say its a poor overclocker. Surely that can't be said about every last one of them. Perhaps the ones used in tests were not the best bins?



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Nope, it's true of every single one of them. The 940-965 are effectively the same chip and thus overclock to the same speeds - the 965's high initial clock means it doesn't really overclock at all. It also has a higher heat output than the other chips due to the higher power required to reach 3.4Ghz.



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So, essentially...a person is paying for the "Stock Clock". Wow, thats unfortunate. Eh...I already figured even if it could do better, it just isn't enough to justify upgrading. Not even the DDR3 controller is worth it eh. LOL!



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Deadrum: BIOSes wait to detect a drive before passing. If a drive is spinning up, they will wait. If the drive never spins up, they will hang there forever. Thus, it not being detected will be a glitch with the BIOS or the drive.
Maw: 720p is fine on almost all onboard video - 1080p however requires a dedicated card and a decent CPU.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Omega: BIOSes wait to detect a drive before passing. If a drive is spinning up, they will wait. If the drive never spins up, they will hang there forever. Thus, it not being detected will be a glitch with the BIOS or the drive.
Maw: 720p is fine on almost all onboard video - 1080p however requires a dedicated card and a decent CPU.
Thanks that's what I needed to know, guess they'll need to buy a cheap gpu.


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Ah, my mistake, yes I did - too many threads at once :(



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LOL! I've nearly done that a few times :P



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Ok. I think i've got er figured :)
Athlon II X 4 620 Propus 2.6Ghz. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103706

Gigabyte motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128397

Gskill 4Gb (2 X 2Gb) DDR3 1333(PC3 10600) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231180

Coolermaster Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115

Western Digital Velociraptor WD1500HLFS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136296

Corsair 400Cx PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139008

= $498.96

Not bad, for a quad, high speed ram, high speed HDD, High quality Mobo, and kept it under 5 bones LOL! Im sure some of you might think of something better though ;)

Ultimately, I don't think the case will be my decision. Woman and all LOL! She'll probably be picky about the way it looks ;)



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Oman7.... I have one of those 330 CM cases... ;) For the money you can't beat it!!!

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Thanks for the feedback buddy :) It does resemble her gateway colors wise...so she should think its a reasonable replacement.



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LOL I love how your logic worked in that statement ^


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She's my mother and I love her dearly, but she is in fact a woman. She'll probably find something about it she doesn't like LOL! Im simply trying to be logical about it.



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My folks always used old computers, my old P3 castoff Compaq SFF ex-work machines or the odd old P4, my dad was fine with any ond thing just as long as the internet performed fine, ma would complain if the computer was sluggish though. So back when i bought the first Dell Optiplex 745 (C2D 2.13GHz) i bought one each for the folks as the seller had a few brand new. Folks couldn't be happier with the machines, even though they're way overpowered for what they need.



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A velociraptor in your parent's PC? Interesting choice to say the least. If I were you I'd get a slightly better case like a Centurion RC532 or something, and a slightly cheaper HDD, something like a Caviar Black maybe?



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