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28. October 2009 @ 18:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
speaking of OS's
what is the difference in the so called OEM,Pro,Ultimate version???
ive had Xp home OEM(which im back to running now) and XP Pro. i didnt see any difference in them other then when loggin on the one has a green thingy across the screen and the other has blue? i couldnt tell the difference in them? is it more software related with the one over the other? the only thing ive had a problem with the xp home oem is it doesnt have any SP's installed to it. so with my mobo now i need at least SP1 preinstalled to install it on my mobo. i dont know if thats the case with all mobo or not.. well it cant be cause ive let someone install my OEM version on his P35 mobo and it worked fine then i was able to install my mobo drivers and such once it had the SP update....
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28. October 2009 @ 19:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Gneiss1,
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Because each user's habits are individual, no HDD can optimize the placement of partitions & files.

That is true to a degree. Microsoft does in fact put the OS software on the outer part of the disk, because the data density is higher at any given rpm, therefore faster to execute. Thats why you see some files that are unmovable. They also allocate a portion of the disk or partition for internal temporary files, expressly so the heads don't have to skip around as much accessing the data. It will also change the size of the temporary file to suit the need, up to the point that there is contiguous room for them, at which point they will be continued on another portion of the boot drive, linked to the original file. It can't readily move a partition because all the information is stored on a chip physically in the HDD. It can be done with software, but I would never recommend it because if something happens where the file that controls it becomes corrupt, you loose everything on the hard partition that is written partially to the soft one. It almost always results in the computer being unable to boot, or just crash. The files would become corrupted because of the loss of the algorithms and would no longer exist as far as the computer was concerned.

This was a large problem back when HDDs suddenly became so large that the operating system of the day could not recognize them. You had to install a file for the OS to be able to see it correctly. Everything was good unless something happened to that file. Then it became a nightmare, as you could no longer access your data. You generally couldn't even boot the computer again, once it crashed.

With AusLogics defrag, there is a setting where when you defrag, it moves all the system files to the beginning of the disk, and when it's defragged, it basically moves the calls to the exe files right to the head of the line to speed the computer bootup. Thank God those days are gone! LOL!!

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28. October 2009 @ 19:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Shaff: Then just don't update the firmware. This is my mentality all along. I have no qualms about buying a Gen2 SSD, they're still far and away the best drives - just never update the firmware, the patches are even worse than Asus BIOSes!



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firstly, TRIM is very important for an SSD or as the SSD is used the performance hit is alot.

secondly, never has a problem with any asus bios, inc modded ones.



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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
firstly, TRIM is very important
secondly, never has a problem with any asus bios, inc modded ones.
I AGREE 100%!!!!!!!!
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TRIM is really handy, I agree, but SSDs aren't useless without it. I will monitor very carefully the next firmware update and if it's sure to be safe, I'll go for it.
As for the Asus BIOSes, it was a deliberately provocative comment just for a laugh, I'll remove it if you like.



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As for the Asus BIOSes, it was a deliberately provocative comment just for a laugh, I'll remove it if you like.
you trying to provoke someone??? never..lol


LMAO... thats not the kind of TRIM i was talking about...lol
looky here.i think this just made it to my home.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358

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So what's that got to do with TRIM? :S



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lol never mind.
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haha cincy!!!!!! nice and breazy when trim



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I figured it was that sort of TRIM, but I wasn't sure :P



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Originally posted by sammorris:
I figured it was that sort of TRIM, but I wasn't sure :P
HOLY COW... I'm crying here!!! ROFL. ;)

Interesting on the SSD Gen2 updates.... I'm not sure I'll be getting one anytime soon but I'll sure do me homework before I do!! ;)

Sammy I thought your statement about BIOS's was funny... just remember to add those little smileys and such... :P

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29. October 2009 @ 06:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
cincy I really like that board, if I was doing a build now it would definitely be a top choice.
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29. October 2009 @ 18:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nice board pick Cincy. I might have gotten one if P45 supported X16 Crossfire. Found my X38 at a smash deal though.



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alright,alright.I got a question what in the heck is -Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio.don't mean sound dumb but.I got 2 of the in my devise manager with the yellow (!) nexts to them.I searched my mb disc not on it..what I gotta dl from microsoft? and why is there 2? i know it has someto do with my audio (Realtek)O yea I'm using Windows Xp x64 have'en installed sp2 yet gotta do update to newest updates

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See if this is of any help, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/835221
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Will
i had that same problem when i tried xp pr 64 bit. same issue. just goto realteks site and dl the drives from their site for you hd audio like i did. everything will be fine...

or that link that sytyguy linked you to wil work great also.
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
Will
i had that same problem when i tried xp pr 64 bit. same issue. just goto realteks site and dl the drives from their site for you hd audio like i did. everything will be fine...

or that link that sytyguy linked you to wil work great also.
Hey Ro you got a Link to that Site? or is this it?

http://www.realtek.com.tw/

And.Ic you got the SKill's running...@902

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thats it will
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
thats it will

Thanks Ro.I got it

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Originally posted by bigwill68:
Originally posted by cincyrob:
thats it will

Thanks Ro.I got it

Will,
Just be sure to install it before you put the Driver Disk in. It has to be installed before the sound drivers on the disk, or it won't work. The way these driver disks work automatically these days, it's just best to put the disk in after installing the UAA.

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Or just get the latest version from the website. Maybe they have a certain package that includes it? Though I think the UAA is only available on the CD. I dunno last time I had to deal with it was on my LANBox when I tried an Audigy SE and had a driver conflict(my fault). The UAA was screwed up until I downloaded a special file from Microsoft that I think was only available after I made an error report on the Microsoft site. A customer service rep sent me a link to the files. Wish I would have kept it as it isn't normally accessible through the MS file archive.



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Originally posted by Estuansis:
Or just get the latest version from the website. Maybe they have a certain package that includes it? Though I think the UAA is only available on the CD. I dunno last time I had to deal with it was on my LANBox when I tried an Audigy SE and had a driver conflict(my fault). The UAA was screwed up until I downloaded a special file from Microsoft that I think was only available after I made an error report on the Microsoft site. A customer service rep sent me a link to the files. Wish I would have kept it as it isn't normally accessible through the MS file archive.

Estuansis,
Don't sweat it. I sent will both the 32 bit and 64 bit UAA Patch in an email attachment. I've used both and they work. If anyone ever needs them just let me know! I have them saved in a folder in my software files.

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Ahh Russ good man. Always can be depended upon. Thanks again for the copy of Sandra Pro some months ago :)



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Originally posted by Estuansis:
Ahh Russ good man. Always can be depended upon. Thanks again for the copy of Sandra Pro some months ago :)

You're most welcome my friend.

Russ


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