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4. October 2009 @ 12:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Can Anyone Help Me... Im Confused.

I did a few full disc back up with BDRB/anydvdHD without a problem.

now im stuck with 3 movie that make me spend a few coaster!

The Dark Knight (full disc mode) dont play at all
What happen in vegas (full disc mode) it boot until the menu and after i press play i stay stuck at the fbi warning.
Iron Man (full disc mode) it boot until the menu and after i press play i stay stuck at at the filmrating.

any help?

i think i should invest on BD-RE lol
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5. October 2009 @ 07:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by cowboy619:
Hello,

I have read through most of this thread and I am a little confused.

Does the process described through this forum allow a Blu-ray movie to be ripped/encoded on to a regular DVD 5 or DVD 9??

I was under the impression that regular DVD 5 & DVD 9's could only hold a max bitrate of around 8,000 and the best resolution was 720x480.

Are my assumptions correct? If so, why are so many people encoding Blu-rays to DVD 5 & DVD 9, is there not significant quality loss compared to a retail Blu Ray or even a 25g BD disc ??

I have been encoding MKV movies(not full size Blu Rays) to fit on DVD 5/9 for a while but I was recently considering buying a blu ray burner in order to get a better video quality by having a higher bitrate and a better resolution quality, while utilizing a 25g BD disc. Is this not needed in order to have high quality 1080P discs??

Thanks for any responses!!
What most of us do is encode to an extended version of AVCHD.

AVCHD was invented prior to Blu-ray to allow those with HD camcorders to archive their media in HD format on regular DVD media.

Please don't confuse the term DVD (Digital Versatile Disc) with DVD Video. DVD refers to a form of optical media, which almost any form of digital media can be placed upon it. The question is, what can read the media placed upon it... With AVCHD, any Blu-ray player is capable of this. DVD Video is the digital video standard that most of us know as the successor to video cassettes.

The good news is that most Blu-ray players will play beyond the old AVCHD spec (24 Mbit/s max bitrate and Dolby Digital sound) and allow higher bitrates along with HD audio.

If there is anything else you need, please ask.

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PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346
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Did anyone try Earth Bluray Ripper? I see it on all kinds of top 100 downloads lists. I am not a video expert so I do not want to buy something too sofisticated. Also, it costs about fifty bucks so if you know about something less expensive to create backups of BR dvds please let me know. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Originally posted by rachel19:
Did anyone try Earth Bluray Ripper? I see it on all kinds of top 100 downloads lists. I am not a video expert so I do not want to buy something too sofisticated. Also, it costs about fifty bucks so if you know about something less expensive to create backups of BR dvds please let me know. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
This whole thread is full of information about free software to do this. Earth Blu-ray Ripper looks dodgy to me!

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PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346
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Just installed megui on a new computer and trying to encode x.264 file and getting an error:

--[Information] [10/6/2009 1:38:46 PM] Encoding started
--[NoImage] Standard output stream
--[NoImage] Standard error stream: C:\Program Files\MeGUI\tools\x264\x264.exe: unknown option -- progress

any help is appreciated!

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9. October 2009 @ 05:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi to every one
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It was recently discovered over at the PS3AvchD forum (thanks to boba fett), that when a AVCHD project was finally finished, remuxed and all, the frame rate produced was slightly off... 23.975, instead of a proper 23.976 or 24p/1.01. The problem is; is that some standalones would not play the AVCHD disc because of the improper frame rate.

It was determined that MeGUI's script creator is the culprit, it would automatically round down 24000/1001 (23.976023976023976023976023976024) to 23.976, which in turn would tell AVISyinth to encode the improper frame rate. Apparently this issue is present with Ripbot as well.

The easy fix for this is to simply add;
AssumeFPS(24000/1001) to your AVISyinth script. I removed the "convert fps=True" from my script as well, it also worked.


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16. October 2009 @ 08:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by odin24:
It was recently discovered over at the PS3AvchD forum (thanks to boba fett), that when a AVCHD project was finally finished, remuxed and all, the frame rate produced was slightly off... 23.975, instead of a proper 23.976 or 24p/1.01. The problem is; is that some standalones would not play the AVCHD disc because of the improper frame rate.

It was determined that MeGUI's script creator is the culprit, it would automatically round down 24000/1001 (23.976023976023976023976023976024) to 23.976, which in turn would tell AVISyinth to encode the improper frame rate. Apparently this issue is present with Ripbot as well.

The easy fix for this is to simply add;
AssumeFPS(24000/1001) to your AVISyinth script. I removed the "convert fps=True" from my script as well, it also worked.
I personally have never used the automated script generator as I have always manually created my AVIsynth scripts, so this might be why I haven't noticed this problem.

However, that is a fantastic find Odin and I think that any form of troubleshooting advice is always welcome here. :-)

PS: For encodes already completed with this problem, I don't see why you couldn't rewrite the metadata at muxing stage to revert the video stream back to the correct frame rate.

"Great minds discuss ideas... Average minds discuss events... Small minds discuss people"

PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 16. October 2009 @ 08:29

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16. October 2009 @ 08:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by eyeguy:
Just installed megui on a new computer and trying to encode x.264 file and getting an error:

--[Information] [10/6/2009 1:38:46 PM] Encoding started
--[NoImage] Standard output stream
--[NoImage] Standard error stream: C:\Program Files\MeGUI\tools\x264\x264.exe: unknown option -- progress

any help is appreciated!
MeGUI is having problems with your "-- progress" command. Personally, I don't use this command. From the top of my head, I am pretty sure x264 does not even support this command (I could be wrong). You could try removing it.

"Great minds discuss ideas... Average minds discuss events... Small minds discuss people"

PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 16. October 2009 @ 08:26

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16. October 2009 @ 13:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Ryu77:
Originally posted by odin24:
It was recently discovered over at the PS3AvchD forum (thanks to boba fett), that when a AVCHD project was finally finished, remuxed and all, the frame rate produced was slightly off... 23.975, instead of a proper 23.976 or 24p/1.01. The problem is; is that some standalones would not play the AVCHD disc because of the improper frame rate.

It was determined that MeGUI's script creator is the culprit, it would automatically round down 24000/1001 (23.976023976023976023976023976024) to 23.976, which in turn would tell AVISyinth to encode the improper frame rate. Apparently this issue is present with Ripbot as well.

The easy fix for this is to simply add;
AssumeFPS(24000/1001) to your AVISyinth script. I removed the "convert fps=True" from my script as well, it also worked.
I personally have never used the automated script generator as I have always manually created my AVIsynth scripts, so this might be why I haven't noticed this problem.

However, that is a fantastic find Odin and I think that any form of troubleshooting advice is always welcome here. :-)

PS: For encodes already completed with this problem, I don't see why you couldn't rewrite the metadata at muxing stage to revert the video stream back to the correct frame rate.
Even if tsMuxeR's FPS is set to change to 24000/1001 it still produces a 23.975 FPS, and eac3to still flags it as "unusual".


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16. October 2009 @ 15:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Ryu77:

MeGUI is having problems with your "-- progress" command. Personally, I don't use this command. From the top of my head, I am pretty sure x264 does not even support this command (I could be wrong). You could try removing it.
As far as i know, i'm not trying to use any command? Anyway to delete this command. Just trying to encode x.264 file using your profile.
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Originally posted by eyeguy:
Originally posted by Ryu77:

MeGUI is having problems with your "-- progress" command. Personally, I don't use this command. From the top of my head, I am pretty sure x264 does not even support this command (I could be wrong). You could try removing it.
As far as i know, i'm not trying to use any command? Anyway to delete this command. Just trying to encode x.264 file using your profile.
--progress is not in either one of Ryu77's AVCHD or Blu-ray profiles, you may be using an older version. Import his current profiles which are linked in the first post of this thread.


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16. October 2009 @ 16:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by odin24:
Originally posted by eyeguy:
Originally posted by Ryu77:

MeGUI is having problems with your "-- progress" command. Personally, I don't use this command. From the top of my head, I am pretty sure x264 does not even support this command (I could be wrong). You could try removing it.
As far as i know, i'm not trying to use any command? Anyway to delete this command. Just trying to encode x.264 file using your profile.
--progress is not in either one of Ryu77's AVCHD or Blu-ray profiles, you may be using an older version. Import his current profiles which are linked in the first post of this thread.
I was using Ryu's updated profiles from page 1 of this thread with megui also from the link on page one. Are there any settings in the x.264 section of megui i need to change?

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Is this where I can get info on doing a one to one backup of a blu-ray movie? I don't want to downsize to a dvd, just backup to a 25gb or 50 gb disc. I've downloaded a few progams and still have problems getting the discs to not turn into coasters. Please point me in the right direction. It seems lots of movies now days are more than 25gb, which is fine, I don't want to downsize at all. Thanks

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Then all you need to do is rip the BD to your computer, then burn the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders with whichever burning ROM you choose. Be sure to use UDF 2.5 as the file system when burning, or else you'll surely make coasters.


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Just wanted to mention that if anyone was having trouble with the auto update feature on MeGUI, if you add this server in the update settings (Options\Settings\Extra config\Configure servers) it will work again...

http://kurtnoise.free.fr/MeGUI/

It looks like the others are down for the time being.

"Great minds discuss ideas... Average minds discuss events... Small minds discuss people"

PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 26. October 2009 @ 10:11

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Originally posted by Ryu77:
Just wanted to mention that if anyone was having trouble with the auto update feature on MeGUI, if you add this server in the update settings (Options\Settings\Extra config\Configure servers) it will work again...

http://kurtnoise.free.fr/MeGUI/

It looks like the others are down for the time being.
Thanks, How'd you find this?


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Originally posted by odin24:
Originally posted by Ryu77:
Just wanted to mention that if anyone was having trouble with the auto update feature on MeGUI, if you add this server in the update settings (Options\Settings\Extra config\Configure servers) it will work again...

http://kurtnoise.free.fr/MeGUI/

It looks like the others are down for the time being.
Thanks, How'd you find this?
From the MeGUI thread over at Doom9. Kurtnoise listed it as an alternate site for MeGUI updates. I just thought I would try adding it to the update server in the settings, and it seems to be able to update automatically from that server. It seems there might be some incompatibility with a newer x264 build and my profiles though. I will need to look into this over the next few days to see where the problem is.

"Great minds discuss ideas... Average minds discuss events... Small minds discuss people"

PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346
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27. October 2009 @ 19:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well I know there is a thread for the DVD, but I can't find anything for the Blu-ray. Does anyone know a way to backup the Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Blu-ray without having to purchase AnyDVD HD? Any other software that's updated enough to handle it? I can't afford to purchase a license right now, but I would like to start editing this movie.
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Wow this thread is full of win! Props to everyone who is contributing helpful advice on this topic. I've been out of the burning scene for a while now and sadly know nothing about the BD ripping process.

Just ripped my first BD (Kill Bill) to my hard drive last night using AnyDVDHD and finally got a chance to see what folders lie on a BD. I see a BDMV and a CERTIFICATE folder which I've read elsewhere in this thread so it seems like I'm on the right track. I've navigated to the BDMV\STREAM folder and see these files:

00001.m2ts
00002.m2ts
...
00022.m2ts

I opened 00001.m2ts with my BD playing software (Cyberlink PowerDVD 9) and the video rip is crisp and clean, however no audio plays and it bypasses all of the BD menus. I'm planning on trying out these BD rips a variety of different ways and I would appreciate any help on how to do so.

First, I am playing with the idea of keeping full BD rips on external HDs, this way I can play them right off my computer (using Cyberlink PowerDVD 9) onto my TV connected through an HDMI cable. My question here is what file do I need to play (in the BDMV or CERTIFICATE folders) for Cyberlink to treat it as if I had just inserted a BD disc so that it will take me through the menus as it usually does and so that the sound works as well.

Second, I'd like to try burning a few BD to blank BD. I'm not interested in any kind of compression. Is it simply as easy as odin24 had stated?

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Then all you need to do is rip the BD to your computer, then burn the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders with whichever burning ROM you choose. Be sure to use UDF 2.5 as the file system when burning, or else you'll surely make coasters.
I've been a long time Nero user, will Nero achieve this for me or is there better software for burning BD that people are using?

Lastly, I'd like to try converting a few BD to mkv files. Since I don't want to recompress the video, I should follow these steps from Ryu77 below?

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First Option.

1) Extract the Blu-ray folders to your HDD via AnyDVD HD.
2) Start tsMuxeR and browse to your main movie file (BDMV/STREAM/00000.m2ts).
3) Select the streams you want to keep and save new m2ts media file or output Blu-ray folders to burn to disc.
This would give me a huge mkv file keeping all of the original BD video and audio quality correct? Converting over to mkv, I assume that you lose the options for menus and everything else too?

Thanks in advance for any help!
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Originally posted by rnguyen:
First, I am playing with the idea of keeping full BD rips on external HDs, this way I can play them right off my computer (using Cyberlink PowerDVD 9) onto my TV connected through an HDMI cable. My question here is what file do I need to play (in the BDMV or CERTIFICATE folders) for Cyberlink to treat it as if I had just inserted a BD disc so that it will take me through the menus as it usually does and so that the sound works as well.
There should be an option to play Media Folder, as opposed to Media File. If there is use the option to play the Folder, and select the folder that contains your BD rip (BDMV and Certificate folders). This way the menu, chapters, subs, and special features will reamin in tact. I do this using Arcsoft TMT.

Originally posted by rnguyen:
Second, I'd like to try burning a few BD to blank BD. I'm not interested in any kind of compression. Is it simply as easy as odin24 had stated?

Originally posted by odin24:
Then all you need to do is rip the BD to your computer, then burn the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders with whichever burning ROM you choose. Be sure to use UDF 2.5 as the file system when burning, or else you'll surely make coasters.
I've been a long time Nero user, will Nero achieve this for me or is there better software for burning BD that people are using?
Yup, it's as simple as that, I suggest using the burning ROM that came with your BD drive. If all else fails, IMGBurn is a good option. Personally, I do not like Nero as my burning app.

Originally posted by rnguyen:
Lastly, I'd like to try converting a few BD to mkv files. Since I don't want to recompress the video, I should follow these steps from Ryu77 below?

First Option.

1) Extract the Blu-ray folders to your HDD via AnyDVD HD.
2) Start tsMuxeR and browse to your main movie file (BDMV/STREAM/00000.m2ts).
3) Select the streams you want to keep and save new m2ts media file or output Blu-ray folders to burn to disc.

This would give me a huge mkv file keeping all of the original BD video and audio quality correct? Converting over to mkv, I assume that you lose the options for menus and everything else too?

Thanks in advance for any help!
I suggest you remux all that you want to keep (audio tracks and subs, etc.) to a new BD structure using tsMuxeR... only because you mentioned playing the structure through your computer earlier. This way you can keep subs, chapter, and HD audio. HD audio in MKV is a no go, unless you transcode to FLAC, which is supported by most PC codecs, however is not supported by BD. So, either remux to BD structure, or m2ts... instead of MKV.

Use a program called BDInfo to determine the MPLS that applies to the main movie, then load that MPLS file (located in the BDMV/Playlist folder of your rip) into tsMuxeR. Then un-check all that you do not need. Leave the language tags in tact, chapters should also be activated. Select Blu-ray as the output and remux. Be sure to remux it to a New Folder (or different from the source rip), or else you will overwrite the original BD rip, because you will create a new set of BDMV and Certificate folders when remuxing to AVCHD or Blu-ray.

Cheers.


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Great info! I am sure I'll have some more questions when it comes to the burning and muxing process as I don't understand all of those acronyms you just threw at me lol. Tried to play Media Folder as you said with Cyberlink and couldn't find the option anywhere. Did a bit of research and found that Cyberlink PowerDVD 9 does NOT allow you to play a BD from your hard drive.

The weird thing is that when I play the same file 00001.m2ts with VLC, it loads with the sound but the video is glitchy and lags. Loading that file with PowerDVD 9 doesn't have sound for some reason, but the video is perfect.

That said, what are some good software recommendations with the ability to play a BD from your hard drive?
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Originally posted by rnguyen:
That said, what are some good software recommendations with the ability to play a BD from your hard drive?
Arcsoft Total Media Theatre (TMT), it's what I use.


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Originally posted by legion455:
I have a Lite-on BluRay LH-2B1S reader/writer ... and am trying to get a movie into an easy to use format, such as AVI or MKV. AnyDVDHD will rip the movie into a 'large' set of folders on the hard drive. My questions are how to continue from this point to get a 1080 AC3 file?

I have had success with the SD DVD disks using DVD Fab Platinum, which converts to avi no sweat, and allows me to select which audio/subs to include. ... so how does one accomplish this with the BD format?

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Hi,

I cannot seem to use Ryu's profile on MeGUI0.3.1.1056.

I tried putting the xml files in the profiles/video subdirectory manually and it says it cannot load them.

I tried importing from the zip file and they don't show up in the box to check off.

Any thoughts?
 
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